Re: [darktable-user] Selecting the outside

2018-01-14 Thread KOVÁCS István
On 15 Jan 2018 5:43 am, wrote: DT 2.4 * I have selected the blend drawing-parameteric mask. * Select my ellipse How do I apply the module to the outside of the ellipse, ie the rest of the image? https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/drawn_mask.html Look for

[darktable-user] Selecting the outside

2018-01-14 Thread darktable
DT 2.4 * I have selected the blend drawing-parameteric mask. * Select my ellipse How do I apply the module to the outside of the ellipse, ie the rest of the image? -- sknahT vyS darktable user mailing list to

Re: [darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread Benjamin Daines
It's also worth nothing that Windows users (especially) and Mac users are conditioned to view their computer and it's application as a product that they are the end user of. It's not their fault, that's how they were turned into customers in the first place. In the GNU / Linux world it's

Re: [darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread Romano Giannetti
On 14/01/18 17:02, Pascal Obry wrote: Benjamin, That's not the point. Take GIMP (it has been discussed recently) there is more users on Windows and almost no contributor for this platform and so the port is hard to maintain. Soon this will also be true for dt, a lot of Windows users are moving

Re: [darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread J Albrecht
> On 14 Jan 2018, at 14:18, Robert Krawitz wrote: > > Speaking from experience, I strongly suggest signing the package. > Current users may be OK with the workaround, but growing the userbase > will require pulling in new users who don't want to turn off the > signing

Re: [darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 14:03:22 -0500, J Albrecht wrote: >> On 14 Jan 2018, at 12:01, Pascal Obry wrote: >> >> Right, probably closer to Linux than Windows is. But yet, we have a >> single MacOS guy for the maintenance and he is not available actually >> to do the work. That

Re: [darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread J Albrecht
> On 14 Jan 2018, at 12:01, Pascal Obry wrote: > > Right, probably closer to Linux than Windows is. But yet, we have a > single MacOS guy for the maintenance and he is not available actually > to do the work. That illustrate my point :) The point is not so pointy. There have

Re: [darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 18:01:39 +0100, Pascal Obry wrote: >> Despite of that what are the competencies needed to compile for mac? >> It is not quite clear to me how technical you have to be to >> contribute. > > Can't tell, I'm not a MacOS user. That's certainly not trivial. But > maybe you have

Re: [darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread Pascal Obry
Laurent, > I also thought that macOS was closer to linux than Windows so easier > to port. I might be wrong. Right, probably closer to Linux than Windows is. But yet, we have a single MacOS guy for the maintenance and he is not available actually to do the work. That illustrate my point :) >

Re: [darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread laurent wawrzyniak
Hello, I understand your point of view concering contribution and I'm sorry if I sounded rude. I just think it is weird that Windows users benefit of the new version before mac users that are faithful to Darktable for many years. I also thought that macOS was closer to linux than Windows so

Re: [darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread Pascal Obry
Benjamin, > If I may interject, Sure! > there's no reason to be upset at users who do not > contribute. Not everyone is able to, and that's fine. What's the > point of a software project without users? That's not the point. Take GIMP (it has been discussed recently) there is more users on

Re: [darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread Pascal Obry
Laurent, > Now I'm stuck on windows waiting for the mac 2.4 version. That's the way it is because most of the Windows and MacOS user are "waiting" instead of *contributing*. The same happens to GIMP, it's a shame that there is some little contributors for those OS. Just *waiting* won't make

[darktable-user] 2.4 for mac :-(

2018-01-14 Thread laurent wawrzyniak
Hello, I am using Darktable for three years now on mac I was so eager to test the haze removal tool that I downloaded the Windows release.Thank you for the great job you made on this new version! Now I'm stuck on windows waiting for the mac 2.4 version.