Re: [darktable-user] White balance for old images changed

2021-04-09 Thread Thomas Werzmirzowsky

Nevermind. I just found the bug that exactly matches my finding:
https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/7145

On 09.04.21 22:54, werzi2...@gmx.de wrote:


Hello everybody,

for the last couple of days I was checking my image library which also
included having a closer look at some older (2-3 years) images. During
that I noticed that the white balance changed (partly) very
drastically for some of them. It seems that Sony ARW files are most
affected but there are also slight differences in Canon CR2 files. By
closer inspection it seems that the changes are caused by the "White
Balance" module and more specific because of the "camera reference"
instead of the "as shot" setting. For all of the affected images I did
not change this setting. Images that I explicitly set an white balance
for ("from image area" or "user modified") did not change.

I cannot recall what the setting was after the initial import ("camera
reference" or "as shot") but as they looked differently back than (of
that I am sure because I have jpg exports from Darktable) I assume one
of the following happened:

  * The default changed from "as shot" to "camera reference" for old
images
  * The interpretation/implementation of "camera reference" changed

Was there a change like that in the last some years? And is there a
way to revert that? I guess I could change the white balance setting
for the images directly in the library database but I'm not sure how I
can identify those that are affected.

Thanks a lot & Best regards
Thomas



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[darktable-user] White balance for old images changed

2021-04-09 Thread Werzi2001

Hello everybody,

for the last couple of days I was checking my image library which also
included having a closer look at some older (2-3 years) images. During
that I noticed that the white balance changed (partly) very drastically
for some of them. It seems that Sony ARW files are most affected but
there are also slight differences in Canon CR2 files. By closer
inspection it seems that the changes are caused by the "White Balance"
module and more specific because of the "camera reference" instead of
the "as shot" setting. For all of the affected images I did not change
this setting. Images that I explicitly set an white balance for ("from
image area" or "user modified") did not change.

I cannot recall what the setting was after the initial import ("camera
reference" or "as shot") but as they looked differently back than (of
that I am sure because I have jpg exports from Darktable) I assume one
of the following happened:

 * The default changed from "as shot" to "camera reference" for old images
 * The interpretation/implementation of "camera reference" changed

Was there a change like that in the last some years? And is there a way
to revert that? I guess I could change the white balance setting for the
images directly in the library database but I'm not sure how I can
identify those that are affected.

Thanks a lot & Best regards
Thomas



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Re: [darktable-user] Newbie

2021-04-09 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:11:04 +0800
Leong KT  wrote:

> Actually I use Mac, which encourages the user to be idiots. There is
> a Mac version of Darktable, but I have been advised not to install
> from that. Instead I need to go through a process which involves
> quite a bit of command lines. That is why I think it is complicated.
> I guess I can try it step by step.
> 
Who did advice you to not install the Mac version of Darktable and what
were their reasons?

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[darktable-user] How to remove sidecars of unedited photos?

2021-04-09 Thread Felix E. Klee
I would like to identify all `.xmp` files that have no edits stored,
then remove them.

Note that I don’t care about tags or ratings of photos.  If an `.xmp`
contains either, then it can go.  I only want to keep `.xmp` files with
edits.

I assume it is possible to write a simple shell script to do so, but
maybe someone has already solved the issue.


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Re: [darktable-user] Newbie

2021-04-09 Thread Jan Ingwer Baer

What you mention is for the people who wants to compile it self. The
installer for the ready-to-use version is a different thing. I think you
will find a ready-to-use installer on the release page of github or on
direct on the darktable page : https://www.darktable.org/install/

On 09-Apr-21 09:42, Leong KT wrote:

I may have misunderstood. I got the impression from a post by Pascal Obry, 
announcing the release of version 3.4.1:

"We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.4.1!

The github release is here:
[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.1](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.1)
.

As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
github, but only our tar.xz. the checksums are:
“
Actually I have no idea what tarball and tar.xz are. 

Ka Tai





On 9 Apr 2021, at 15:19, Michael Rasmussen  wrote:

On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:11:04 +0800
Leong KT  wrote:


Actually I use Mac, which encourages the user to be idiots. There is
a Mac version of Darktable, but I have been advised not to install
from that. Instead I need to go through a process which involves
quite a bit of command lines. That is why I think it is complicated.
I guess I can try it step by step.


Who did advice you to not install the Mac version of Darktable and what
were their reasons?

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Re: [darktable-user] Newbie

2021-04-09 Thread Archie Macintosh
The Mac package works just fine. I’ve installed dt on MacOS using the Mac
packages up to and including Catalina.

My current installation of dt using the Mac package is very stable. So I
have no hesitation in recommending it to you.

Download the .dmg here:
https://www.darktable.org/install/#macos

Enjoy!

On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 08:11, Leong KT  wrote:

> Actually I use Mac, which encourages the user to be idiots. There is a Mac
> version of Darktable, but I have been advised not to install from that.
> Instead I need to go through a process which involves quite a bit of
> command lines. That is why I think it is complicated. I guess I can try it
> step by step.
>
> On the other hand, the main reason I want to switch is because Lightroom 6
> does not support X100V raw files. I have tried Adobe DNG convertor a few
> weeks ago and it did not work either. I am glad to hear that Darktable
> works for X100V.
>
> This is a great group. I shall keep in touch with my progress.
>
> Ka Tai
>
>
>
>
> > On 8 Apr 2021, at 18:22, Monsieur N  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Welcome to you !
> >
> > Do you use Windows or Linux ?
> >
> > N
> >
> > Le 08/04/2021 à 11:26, Leong KT a écrit :
> >> I am a photographer and have been using Lightroom for many years. It
> works fine for me. But I am really put off by the subscription model and
> have stuck to Lightroom 6. Recently I bought the Fujifilm X100V. It is like
> going back to the days when all I had was a beaten up Leica and a 35mm
> lens. I can concentrate on the photo instead of the equipment.
> >>
> >> But Lightroom 6 does not support X100V raw files. I have to subscribe
> to get the update.
> >>
> >> I am thinking of changing over to Darktable. Does it support X100V raw
> files? Also, it seems that installing Darktable seems dauntingly
> complicated. Is there a simple workaround?
> >>
> >> Thank you for your help.
> >>
> >> Ka
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Re: [darktable-user] Newbie

2021-04-09 Thread Leong KT
I may have misunderstood. I got the impression from a post by Pascal Obry, 
announcing the release of version 3.4.1:

"We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.4.1!

The github release is here:
[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.1](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.1)
.

As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by
github, but only our tar.xz. the checksums are:
“
Actually I have no idea what tarball and tar.xz are. 

Ka Tai




> On 9 Apr 2021, at 15:19, Michael Rasmussen  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 15:11:04 +0800
> Leong KT  wrote:
> 
>> Actually I use Mac, which encourages the user to be idiots. There is
>> a Mac version of Darktable, but I have been advised not to install
>> from that. Instead I need to go through a process which involves
>> quite a bit of command lines. That is why I think it is complicated.
>> I guess I can try it step by step.
>> 
> Who did advice you to not install the Mac version of Darktable and what
> were their reasons?
> 
> — 





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Re: [darktable-user] Newbie

2021-04-09 Thread Leong KT
Actually I use Mac, which encourages the user to be idiots. There is a Mac 
version of Darktable, but I have been advised not to install from that. Instead 
I need to go through a process which involves quite a bit of command lines. 
That is why I think it is complicated. I guess I can try it step by step.

On the other hand, the main reason I want to switch is because Lightroom 6 does 
not support X100V raw files. I have tried Adobe DNG convertor a few weeks ago 
and it did not work either. I am glad to hear that Darktable works for X100V.

This is a great group. I shall keep in touch with my progress.

Ka Tai




> On 8 Apr 2021, at 18:22, Monsieur N  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Welcome to you !
> 
> Do you use Windows or Linux ?
> 
> N
> 
> Le 08/04/2021 à 11:26, Leong KT a écrit :
>> I am a photographer and have been using Lightroom for many years. It works 
>> fine for me. But I am really put off by the subscription model and have 
>> stuck to Lightroom 6. Recently I bought the Fujifilm X100V. It is like going 
>> back to the days when all I had was a beaten up Leica and a 35mm lens. I can 
>> concentrate on the photo instead of the equipment.
>> 
>> But Lightroom 6 does not support X100V raw files. I have to subscribe to get 
>> the update.
>> 
>> I am thinking of changing over to Darktable. Does it support X100V raw 
>> files? Also, it seems that installing Darktable seems dauntingly 
>> complicated. Is there a simple workaround?
>> 
>> Thank you for your help.
>> 
>> Ka 
>> Tai
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