Re: [darktable-user] Time for a new system
I do agree with Marco. I work on SSD, store on raid, then rsync to another system in the same building, with raid disks, and with another pc on a remote location. Hard drives are cheap, my pictures irreplaceable. On 06/12/22 17:26, Marco DE BOOIJ wrote: Just my 2 cents. Who says that the cloud is 100% reliable? Can be hacked, get bankrupt or change price/policy. Until now not heard of the first 2 but the 3rd has happened. My 'solution'. Just buy 2 cheap external discs. Backup to both disks and bring one to a friend/relative (not your neighbour because if your place burns, the neighbours place will likely burn too). Next backups backup to the disc at your place and exchange it with the other one and backup again on this disc. Some work with minimal cost. So you have 3 different media and 2 different geographical locations. Regards, Marco Op 6/12/2022 om 00:48 schreef Chris Albertson: On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 2:59 PM David Vincent-Jones wrote: Yes, the cloud .. just another cost that we are being talked into! OK, you don't want to pay to use other peole's storage. Then buy a second NAS and place it in some other building and use that. You can work out if it is cheaper to rent or buy storage. Likely it does cost less in the long run to buy your own off-site storage but it will require some time for you to devote to keeping it running. What is your time worth? We assume this is a business and not a hobby. The company I used to work for used three large storage systems each one in a different city and they kept them all in sync. But they already had IT staff and the server rooms in place. Synology does make backing up to a remote NAS really easy to setup. The only problem is the up-front cost is at least doubled because you need a second NAS box. So you have to decide if you would rather pay $1,200 for the hardware of $30 per month for a service. The usual rule of thumb about backing up business critical data is that is all cases 1) the data is one three different media and 2) the data is at two different geographical locations. Usually this means the Data is on your computer, your backup disk or NAS, and in a cloud server. That is three different media. and your office and the cloud provide two different geographic locations. The above is the minimum. Your share holders would consider you incompetent and sue you if you did less, you can always do more. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Corrupted installation of darktable on Linux Mint 21
On vendredi 16 décembre 2022 00:10:00 CET Willy Williams wrote: > I've run into a challenge on my one Linux Mint 21 computer. Since > yesterday, when I start darktable, I get the message below. I've deleted > the lock files repeatedly, to no avail. I've uninstalled and > reinstalled darktable, but get the same message every time. I am NOT a > Linux wizard and haven't a good idea of how to resolve this issue. > Anyone got some good advice? I'm hoping to come to a successful > resolution before darktable 4.2 springs out later this month. > > Willy Williams I get such a message when I try to restart darktable too quickly after I closed it. After a few seconds (10-20? at most), the problem solves itself (as the previous run will have finished its clean-up). Or you may have another copy running, e.g. on another virtual desktop. You can use several tools to check that (one you certainly have is "ps", so try in a terminal window (no need to use root for this): ps -aux | grep -i "darktable" That should show you any copy still running with an extra line for the "grep" program, so if you see two or more lines, there is a copy running... (what that command does: 'ps -aux' lists all running processes on your computer, 'grep -i "darktable" ' then retains only those lines that have the word "darktable" in them.) Another cause might be an unexpected shutdown of your computer, after e.g. a power cut; in such a case, darktable won't have had the time to clean up after itself. (although that wouldn't explain why you' have to remove lock files repeatedly). Uninstalling and reinstall darktable won't remove the lock files, so it won't help. Also, if you need to manually remove the lock files, it might be a good idea to verify the integrity of the databases before restarting darktable... The locks are there to prevent database corruption by another copy of darktable, so if they are there while there's no copy of darktable running, there's a good chance the last shutdown wasn't done correctly. That means the database may not have been closed correctly either. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Corrupted installation of darktable on Linux Mint 21
On 12/15/22 18:10, Willy Williams wrote: I've run into a challenge on my one Linux Mint 21 computer. Since yesterday, when I start darktable, I get the message below. I've deleted the lock files repeatedly, to no avail. I've uninstalled and reinstalled darktable, but get the same message every time. I am NOT a Linux wizard and haven't a good idea of how to resolve this issue. Anyone got some good advice? I'm hoping to come to a successful resolution before darktable 4.2 springs out later this month. Willy Williams -- "When a photo of a person looks deep into your spirit and tells you a thousand stories ... stories from your past even before you existed, then the photo is way above any description." - Sameh Elsayed -- I am not a Mint user (I use Ubuntu), but you should have an application named "System Monitor". You need to open that and make sure you are on the Processes tab. If you see one called 'darktable', press End Process on the lower right border of the System Monitor window, then press End Process on the pop-up. Check to make sure you do not have multiple darktable processes. Cecil Carpenter darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Corrupted installation of darktable on Linux Mint 21
I've run into a challenge on my one Linux Mint 21 computer. Since yesterday, when I start darktable, I get the message below. I've deleted the lock files repeatedly, to no avail. I've uninstalled and reinstalled darktable, but get the same message every time. I am NOT a Linux wizard and haven't a good idea of how to resolve this issue. Anyone got some good advice? I'm hoping to come to a successful resolution before darktable 4.2 springs out later this month. Willy Williams -- "When a photo of a person looks deep into your spirit and tells you a thousand stories ... stories from your past even before you existed, then the photo is way above any description." - Sameh Elsayed -- darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Re: release 4.2 is coming... Blog article?
Hi Bernhard, > first of all: thanks for all the hard work. You're welcome! > My question is: In past years my limited contribution was to provide > german translations of the blog article that accompanied the release. > This time I could not find any trace of preparation of such an > article. > > Will there be such an article this time - and whom could I contact > with regard to it? Chris? I don't think we will have an article for this end of year release. At least no one has proposed to write the draft. Have a nice day, -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] release 4.2 is coming...
My thanks to all who have worked so hard to make this yet another stunning release of darktable. Include yourself in the list Pascal. R. On 14/12/2022 19:58, Pascal Obry wrote: Hello! I'd like to take some time, while we are all waiting for the 4.2 release, to send you a little message about darktable. This release cycle has seen lot of improvements as previous releases. We had also some divergences with one developer and the signal sent was certainly not good or worrisome for some of you. Fact is that the team behind darktable is strong and working very hard in many aspects of the project. Some people gain more visibility because they work on GUI part that are directly visible by end-users. But there is also some people working on part of the code that you do not see directly but that makes darktable internal better. I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm and Ralf Brown for their work on performances, tweaking OpenCL code path and OpenMP to use every cycles of your CPU. I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm also for working on new highlight recovery algorithms. I'd like to thank Diederik ter Rahe for looking into Gtk issues and proposing a very impressive framework for shortcuts. And to achieve that, lot of code refactoring has been done. Some Gtk parts are looking like black magic to me :) I'd like to thank Roman Lebedev for the hard work in rawspeed. Without this project darktable won't be there. Also Miloš Komarčević working on rawspeed and many RAW formats support. I'd like to thank Victor Forsiuk for working on image input/output support and fixing a huge number of spelling typos. I'd like to thank Aldric Renaudin for the continued effort on the lighttable filters and UI. I'd like to thank Nicolas Auffray for taking over the UI effort and doing magic with CSS. I'd like to thank Bill Fergusson for maintaining the Lua framework. I'd like to thank rawfiner for checking noise profiles and making sure they are in good shape for integration. I'd like to thank Simone Gotti for working on a new lens correction method based on meta-data. I'd like to thank all the testers and reviewers (Chris Elston, Martin Straeten, parafin, Mark-64, and others) making sure we do not introduce more issues than we are fixing. Also thanks for Chris for reading my English in the RELEASE_NOTES and correcting it. I'd like to thank parafin and Bill Fergusson for creating the release binaries for MacOS and Windows. And Andreas Schneider as maintainer of the OBS platform for creating the GNU/Linux binaries. I'd like to thank Sakari Kapanen for helping with color science. I'd like to thank Jakob Andrén for the long journey at making Sigmoid a viable alternative to FilmicRGB. I'd like to thank all the translators bringing to us an interface in our native language. I won't name them, but also remember that darktable is Open Source and we leverage on many other Open Source projects/libraries (to handle Jpeg, TIFF, AVIF, HEIF, PNG... tether with camera, handle SVG, colors...). I'm even pretty sure that there is far more code in the dependencies we are using than in darktable itself. And finally I'd like to thank all people that I have forgotten in the list above. I'm sorry if I missed you. A darktable release is a huge amount of work and the darktable team is wonderful. I'm really happy to be part of it, let's the aventure continue. Have all a nice end of year! darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] release 4.2 is coming...
Sent from Blue On Dec. 14, 2022, 15:48, at 15:48, Marc Cabuy wrote: >To all dt developers, > >Version 4.0 has really impressed me further, but also some die-hard LR >users to whom I demonstrated it in my photoclub. So really THANK YOU >VERY >MUCH too. > >Mar > >Op wo 14 dec. 2022 21:08 schreef Pascal Obry : > >> >> Hello! >> >> I'd like to take some time, while we are all waiting for the 4.2 >> release, to send you a little message about darktable. >> >> This release cycle has seen lot of improvements as previous releases. >> We had also some divergences with one developer and the signal sent >was >> certainly not good or worrisome for some of you. >> >> Fact is that the team behind darktable is strong and working very >hard >> in many aspects of the project. >> >> Some people gain more visibility because they work on GUI part that >are >> directly visible by end-users. But there is also some people working >on >> part of the code that you do not see directly but that makes >darktable >> internal better. >> >> I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm and Ralf Brown for their work on >> performances, tweaking OpenCL code path and OpenMP to use every >cycles >> of your CPU. >> >> I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm also for working on new highlight >> recovery algorithms. >> >> I'd like to thank Diederik ter Rahe for looking into Gtk issues and >> proposing a very impressive framework for shortcuts. And to achieve >> that, lot of code refactoring has been done. Some Gtk parts are >looking >> like black magic to me :) >> >> I'd like to thank Roman Lebedev for the hard work in rawspeed. >Without >> this project darktable won't be there. Also Miloš Komarčević working >on >> rawspeed and many RAW formats support. >> >> I'd like to thank Victor Forsiuk for working on image input/output >> support and fixing a huge number of spelling typos. >> >> I'd like to thank Aldric Renaudin for the continued effort on the >> lighttable filters and UI. >> >> I'd like to thank Nicolas Auffray for taking over the UI effort and >> doing magic with CSS. >> >> I'd like to thank Bill Fergusson for maintaining the Lua framework. >> >> I'd like to thank rawfiner for checking noise profiles and making >sure >> they are in good shape for integration. >> >> I'd like to thank Simone Gotti for working on a new lens correction >> method based on meta-data. >> >> I'd like to thank all the testers and reviewers (Chris Elston, Martin >> Straeten, parafin, Mark-64, and others) making sure we do not >introduce >> more issues than we are fixing. Also thanks for Chris for reading my >> English in the RELEASE_NOTES and correcting it. >> >> I'd like to thank parafin and Bill Fergusson for creating the release >> binaries for MacOS and Windows. And Andreas Schneider as maintainer >of >> the OBS platform for creating the GNU/Linux binaries. >> >> I'd like to thank Sakari Kapanen for helping with color science. >> >> I'd like to thank Jakob Andrén for the long journey at making Sigmoid >a >> viable alternative to FilmicRGB. >> >> I'd like to thank all the translators bringing to us an interface in >> our native language. >> >> I won't name them, but also remember that darktable is Open Source >and >> we leverage on many other Open Source projects/libraries (to handle >> Jpeg, TIFF, AVIF, HEIF, PNG... tether with camera, handle SVG, >> colors...). I'm even pretty sure that there is far more code in the >> dependencies we are using than in darktable itself. >> >> And finally I'd like to thank all people that I have forgotten in the >> list above. I'm sorry if I missed you. >> >> A darktable release is a huge amount of work and the darktable team >is >> wonderful. I'm really happy to be part of it, let's the aventure >> continue. >> >> Have all a nice end of year! >> >> -- >> Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) >> >> The best way to travel is by means of imagination >> >> http://www.obry.net >> >> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B >> >> > >> darktable user mailing list >> to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> >> > > >darktable user mailing list >to unsubscribe send a mail to >darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] release 4.2 is coming...
I, in no way count myself anywhere near expert in using DT, but each version seems to become easier to use and has extra capabilities. I do realise the effort that goes into maintaining and further developing a project such as this. My thanks and best wishes go to all of those involved in the Project, and I also thank the Members of this list, without whom I would probably still be floundering! Compliments of the Season to you All. Colin J darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] release 4.2 is coming...
Oh... by the way... I would like to thank Pascal Obry too :-) Il giorno mer 14 dic 2022 alle ore 21:07 Pascal Obry ha scritto: > > Hello! > > I'd like to take some time, while we are all waiting for the 4.2 > release, to send you a little message about darktable. > > This release cycle has seen lot of improvements as previous releases. > We had also some divergences with one developer and the signal sent was > certainly not good or worrisome for some of you. > > Fact is that the team behind darktable is strong and working very hard > in many aspects of the project. > > Some people gain more visibility because they work on GUI part that are > directly visible by end-users. But there is also some people working on > part of the code that you do not see directly but that makes darktable > internal better. > > I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm and Ralf Brown for their work on > performances, tweaking OpenCL code path and OpenMP to use every cycles > of your CPU. > > I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm also for working on new highlight > recovery algorithms. > > I'd like to thank Diederik ter Rahe for looking into Gtk issues and > proposing a very impressive framework for shortcuts. And to achieve > that, lot of code refactoring has been done. Some Gtk parts are looking > like black magic to me :) > > I'd like to thank Roman Lebedev for the hard work in rawspeed. Without > this project darktable won't be there. Also Miloš Komarčević working on > rawspeed and many RAW formats support. > > I'd like to thank Victor Forsiuk for working on image input/output > support and fixing a huge number of spelling typos. > > I'd like to thank Aldric Renaudin for the continued effort on the > lighttable filters and UI. > > I'd like to thank Nicolas Auffray for taking over the UI effort and > doing magic with CSS. > > I'd like to thank Bill Fergusson for maintaining the Lua framework. > > I'd like to thank rawfiner for checking noise profiles and making sure > they are in good shape for integration. > > I'd like to thank Simone Gotti for working on a new lens correction > method based on meta-data. > > I'd like to thank all the testers and reviewers (Chris Elston, Martin > Straeten, parafin, Mark-64, and others) making sure we do not introduce > more issues than we are fixing. Also thanks for Chris for reading my > English in the RELEASE_NOTES and correcting it. > > I'd like to thank parafin and Bill Fergusson for creating the release > binaries for MacOS and Windows. And Andreas Schneider as maintainer of > the OBS platform for creating the GNU/Linux binaries. > > I'd like to thank Sakari Kapanen for helping with color science. > > I'd like to thank Jakob Andrén for the long journey at making Sigmoid a > viable alternative to FilmicRGB. > > I'd like to thank all the translators bringing to us an interface in > our native language. > > I won't name them, but also remember that darktable is Open Source and > we leverage on many other Open Source projects/libraries (to handle > Jpeg, TIFF, AVIF, HEIF, PNG... tether with camera, handle SVG, > colors...). I'm even pretty sure that there is far more code in the > dependencies we are using than in darktable itself. > > And finally I'd like to thank all people that I have forgotten in the > list above. I'm sorry if I missed you. > > A darktable release is a huge amount of work and the darktable team is > wonderful. I'm really happy to be part of it, let's the aventure > continue. > > Have all a nice end of year! > > -- > Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) > > The best way to travel is by means of imagination > > http://www.obry.net > > gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] release 4.2 is coming...
I concur with Terry and would like to thank Pascal too for the help on keeping the project alive with the support of all the contributing volunteers. Marc. Op do 15 dec. 2022 00:33 schreef Terry Pinfold : > I also would like to express my appreciation to all the developers of DT. > I am currently testing the Windows build every week and have watched the > program continue to improve. Job well done. And DT is more than a single > developer who in the past has contributed significantly with his work. > > On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 08:07, I. Ivanov wrote: > >> Thank you to all developers! >> >> Truly an amazing work and dedication! >> >> Regards, >> >> B >> On 12/14/22 11:58, Pascal Obry wrote: >> >> Hello! >> >> I'd like to take some time, while we are all waiting for the 4.2 >> release, to send you a little message about darktable. >> >> This release cycle has seen lot of improvements as previous releases. >> We had also some divergences with one developer and the signal sent was >> certainly not good or worrisome for some of you. >> >> Fact is that the team behind darktable is strong and working very hard >> in many aspects of the project. >> >> Some people gain more visibility because they work on GUI part that are >> directly visible by end-users. But there is also some people working on >> part of the code that you do not see directly but that makes darktable >> internal better. >> >> I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm and Ralf Brown for their work on >> performances, tweaking OpenCL code path and OpenMP to use every cycles >> of your CPU. >> >> I'd like to thank Hanno Schwalm also for working on new highlight >> recovery algorithms. >> >> I'd like to thank Diederik ter Rahe for looking into Gtk issues and >> proposing a very impressive framework for shortcuts. And to achieve >> that, lot of code refactoring has been done. Some Gtk parts are looking >> like black magic to me :) >> >> I'd like to thank Roman Lebedev for the hard work in rawspeed. Without >> this project darktable won't be there. Also Miloš Komarčević working on >> rawspeed and many RAW formats support. >> >> I'd like to thank Victor Forsiuk for working on image input/output >> support and fixing a huge number of spelling typos. >> >> I'd like to thank Aldric Renaudin for the continued effort on the >> lighttable filters and UI. >> >> I'd like to thank Nicolas Auffray for taking over the UI effort and >> doing magic with CSS. >> >> I'd like to thank Bill Fergusson for maintaining the Lua framework. >> >> I'd like to thank rawfiner for checking noise profiles and making sure >> they are in good shape for integration. >> >> I'd like to thank Simone Gotti for working on a new lens correction >> method based on meta-data. >> >> I'd like to thank all the testers and reviewers (Chris Elston, Martin >> Straeten, parafin, Mark-64, and others) making sure we do not introduce >> more issues than we are fixing. Also thanks for Chris for reading my >> English in the RELEASE_NOTES and correcting it. >> >> I'd like to thank parafin and Bill Fergusson for creating the release >> binaries for MacOS and Windows. And Andreas Schneider as maintainer of >> the OBS platform for creating the GNU/Linux binaries. >> >> I'd like to thank Sakari Kapanen for helping with color science. >> >> I'd like to thank Jakob Andrén for the long journey at making Sigmoid a >> viable alternative to FilmicRGB. >> >> I'd like to thank all the translators bringing to us an interface in >> our native language. >> >> I won't name them, but also remember that darktable is Open Source and >> we leverage on many other Open Source projects/libraries (to handle >> Jpeg, TIFF, AVIF, HEIF, PNG... tether with camera, handle SVG, >> colors...). I'm even pretty sure that there is far more code in the >> dependencies we are using than in darktable itself. >> >> And finally I'd like to thank all people that I have forgotten in the >> list above. I'm sorry if I missed you. >> >> A darktable release is a huge amount of work and the darktable team is >> wonderful. I'm really happy to be part of it, let's the aventure >> continue. >> >> Have all a nice end of year! >> >> >> >> >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > > > -- > Terry Pinfold > Photography & Imaging Tutor > Hobart, Tasmania, Australia > Ph 0408 699053 > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
