Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
Just in case anyone does not want to rebuild.darktable 4.4.1 can be also be installed via flatpak probably also snap. Jimmy On July 4, 2023 7:39:43 AM CDT, "Remco Viëtor" wrote: >On mardi 4 juillet 2023 14:38:09 CEST Remco Viëtor wrote: > >> Perhaps not in the official/base repositories, but: >> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa >> has gcc-12 available. >or perhaps this repository is better: >https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/22.04/ubuntu-updates-main-amd64/ > > > > >darktable user mailing list >to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
On mardi 4 juillet 2023 14:38:09 CEST Remco Viëtor wrote: > Perhaps not in the official/base repositories, but: > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa > has gcc-12 available. or perhaps this repository is better: https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/22.04/ubuntu-updates-main-amd64/ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
On mardi 4 juillet 2023 13:52:17 CEST Guillermo Rozas wrote: > The OBS packages are having problems because Ubuntu 22.04 lacks the > required dependencies to compile darktable 4.4 (in particular, gcc12). As > there is a single maintainer, and he doesn't use Debian/Ubuntu in "normal > life", it could take a while or could be solved tomorrow, there is no ETA > currently. Perhaps not in the official/base repositories, but: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa has gcc-12 available. Once you have a binary, you no longer need gcc, so then it's not too difficult to create a package for others on the distro. However, if there are other missing dependencies (as is the case for OpenSUSe Leap), it gets trickier: if you have to hunt for libraries dt depends on, other would also have to hunt for those. _Not_ nice for a distributed package... As for flatpak, snap and other self-contained packages, some seem to cause their own troubles as soon as you want more than vanilla use, due to the sandboxing they do (which is a good thing, until it isn't). Remco darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
The OBS packages are having problems because Ubuntu 22.04 lacks the required dependencies to compile darktable 4.4 (in particular, gcc12). As there is a single maintainer, and he doesn't use Debian/Ubuntu in "normal life", it could take a while or could be solved tomorrow, there is no ETA currently. More in general: Ubuntu 22.04 is an LTS release. If you want to keep using it for its whole life, updating to newer and newer versions of darktable through deb packages will become increasingly difficult, because they depend on system libraries that are not going to be upgraded (that's the basic idea of the LTS). I would recommend you to start looking for universal packages, like the official flatpak version ( https://flathub.org/apps/org.darktable.Darktable). Best regards, Guillermo On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 1:00 AM Niranjan Rao wrote: > On 7/3/23 19:48, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > don't really know but would bet it is. a simple proof would be to try > it. > > > > warning, backup your library.db before trying as I believe 4.41 > library > > is not backward compatible with 4.40. > > The question becomes where to get it from? OBS repository does not show > it nor does Ubuntu updates. I don't expect Ubuntu updates to update as > historically they haven't once stable release is released. But one could > get binaries from OBS which seems not to be happening. Hence the question. > > > Regards, > > Niranjan > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
On mardi 4 juillet 2023 12:49:17 CEST Bernhard wrote:
> Remco Viëtor schrieb am 04.07.23 um 10:29:
>
> > On mardi 4 juillet 2023 08:15:36 CEST Bernhard wrote:
> >
> >> here is a list of what works and what not ...
> >> https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/graphics:darktable
> >> (might be possible to get to work with a lot of hacks though - obviously
> >> like William did)
> >> William Ferguson schrieb am 04.07.23 um 08:05:
> >>
> >>> I build it
> >
> > (...)
> >
> >
> >
> > Perhaps not all that many hacks.
> >
> >
> >
> > You'll need GCC-12 (or newer?), and tell your build system to use it, and
> > you may have to disable some optional parts.
> >
> > e.g. on OpenSUSe I needed to tell the system to use GCC-12
> > ("export CC=gcc-12; export CXX=g++-12),
> > and I removed openEXR (which I don't use, so removing it was easier than
> > trying to get the proper version...)
> > In case of such problems, have a look at the DefineOptions.cmake file, to
> > see what could be disabled.
> >
> > Of course, if you can't get a proper version for a *required* component,
> > it gets more difficult...
> >
> > Remco
> >
> >
>
> depends on the viewpoint - aka base knowledge.
> I tried to build master 2 months ago - and learned I have do upgrade my
> debian. I did that - then I learned I have to do this and that recommended
> in pixls.us, github and here. I tried but never succeeded. But I'm not a SW
> developer. I'm happy if my scripts (where I don't have the necessity to
> compile) work for me.
> So something like
>
> > tell the system to use GCC-12
>
> is difficult (ok, you give two commands here - but: as a user? as root? And:
> what are the side-affects?)
> So I decided to wait till "normal compile" in a "standard system" will work
> again. Btw: using the "Testing" binary in "Debian Bookworm" (manual
> download) seems to work in the meantime as a workaround.
> --
So you have a working dt. Good.
If you want to be sure you can go back to stable 4.4.1, make sure you have a
backup of the databases: a change in the database scheme may make it
impossible to go back to an older version (iirc, a version that updates the
databases saves a backup copy, so make sure it is there...)
btw, the full sequence I used to compile darktable 4.4.1 was:
#> export CC=gcc-12
#> export CXX=g++-12
#> ./build.sh --prefix /opt/darktable --build-type Release --install --sudo
All as user, you'll be asked for the root password just before the install to
/opt/darktable (which is not user-writable).
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Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
Remco Viëtor schrieb am 04.07.23 um 10:29:
On mardi 4 juillet 2023 08:15:36 CEST Bernhard wrote:
here is a list of what works and what not ...
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/graphics:darktable
(might be possible to get to work with a lot of hacks though - obviously
like William did)
William Ferguson schrieb am 04.07.23 um 08:05:
I build it
(...)
Perhaps not all that many hacks.
You'll need GCC-12 (or newer?), and tell your build system to use it, and you
may have to disable some optional parts.
e.g. on OpenSUSe I needed to tell the system to use GCC-12
("export CC=gcc-12; export CXX=g++-12),
and I removed openEXR (which I don't use, so removing it was easier than
trying to get the proper version...)
In case of such problems, have a look at the DefineOptions.cmake file, to see
what could be disabled.
Of course, if you can't get a proper version for a *required* component, it
gets more difficult...
Remco
depends on the viewpoint - aka base knowledge.
I tried to build master 2 months ago - and learned I have do upgrade my debian.
I did that - then I learned I have to do this and that recommended in pixls.us,
github and here.
I tried but never succeeded. But I'm not a SW developer. I'm happy if my
scripts (where I don't have the necessity to compile) work for me.
So something like
tell the system to use GCC-12
is difficult (ok, you give two commands here - but: as a user? as root? And:
what are the side-affects?)
So I decided to wait till "normal compile" in a "standard system" will work
again.
Btw: using the "Testing" binary in "Debian Bookworm" (manual download) seems to
work in the meantime as a workaround.
--
regards
Bernhard
https://www.bilddateien.de
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Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
Hi, On 04/07/2023 02:50, Niranjan Rao wrote: It's not clear to me if latest release of darktable is supported on 22.04. Opensuse OBS repository shows darktable 4.4 only for 23.04. Is it supported on Ubuntu 22.04? I run 22.04. This morning DT updated to 4.4.1 via a simple nala update / upgrade. Still running terribly slow though when compared to prior 4.2 version. Opencl is showing as activated so I am at a loss how to investigate this slow performance further. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
On mardi 4 juillet 2023 08:15:36 CEST Bernhard wrote:
> here is a list of what works and what not ...
> https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/graphics:darktable
> (might be possible to get to work with a lot of hacks though - obviously
> like William did)
> William Ferguson schrieb am 04.07.23 um 08:05:
> > I build it
(...)
Perhaps not all that many hacks.
You'll need GCC-12 (or newer?), and tell your build system to use it, and you
may have to disable some optional parts.
e.g. on OpenSUSe I needed to tell the system to use GCC-12
("export CC=gcc-12; export CXX=g++-12),
and I removed openEXR (which I don't use, so removing it was easier than
trying to get the proper version...)
In case of such problems, have a look at the DefineOptions.cmake file, to see
what could be disabled.
Of course, if you can't get a proper version for a *required* component, it
gets more difficult...
Remco
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Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
here is a list of what works and what not ... https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/graphics:darktable (might be possible to get to work with a lot of hacks though - obviously like William did) William Ferguson schrieb am 04.07.23 um 08:05: I build it On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 12:00 AM Niranjan Rao wrote: On 7/3/23 19:48, Patrick Shanahan wrote: don't really know but would bet it is. a simple proof would be to try it. warning, backup your library.db before trying as I believe 4.41 library is not backward compatible with 4.40. The question becomes where to get it from? OBS repository does not show it nor does Ubuntu updates. I don't expect Ubuntu updates to update as historically they haven't once stable release is released. But one could get binaries from OBS which seems not to be happening. Hence the question. Regards, Niranjan darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
I build it On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 12:00 AM Niranjan Rao wrote: > On 7/3/23 19:48, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > don't really know but would bet it is. a simple proof would be to try > it. > > > > warning, backup your library.db before trying as I believe 4.41 > library > > is not backward compatible with 4.40. > > The question becomes where to get it from? OBS repository does not show > it nor does Ubuntu updates. I don't expect Ubuntu updates to update as > historically they haven't once stable release is released. But one could > get binaries from OBS which seems not to be happening. Hence the question. > > > Regards, > > Niranjan > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
On 7/3/23 19:48, Patrick Shanahan wrote: don't really know but would bet it is. a simple proof would be to try it. warning, backup your library.db before trying as I believe 4.41 library is not backward compatible with 4.40. The question becomes where to get it from? OBS repository does not show it nor does Ubuntu updates. I don't expect Ubuntu updates to update as historically they haven't once stable release is released. But one could get binaries from OBS which seems not to be happening. Hence the question. Regards, Niranjan darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
On 7/3/23 20:27, William Ferguson wrote: I'm running 4.4.1 and 4.5 on 22.04 without any problems Where did you download it from? Or did you build it yourself? darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
I'm running 4.4.1 and 4.5 on 22.04 without any problems On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 10:49 PM Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Niranjan Rao [07-03-23 21:53]: > > Greetings, > > > > > > It's not clear to me if latest release of darktable is supported on > 22.04. > > Opensuse OBS repository shows darktable 4.4 only for 23.04. Is it > supported > > on Ubuntu 22.04? > > don't really know but would bet it is. a simple proof would be to try it. > >warning, backup your library.db before trying as I believe 4.41 library >is not backward compatible with 4.40. > > > -- > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
* Niranjan Rao [07-03-23 21:53]: > Greetings, > > > It's not clear to me if latest release of darktable is supported on 22.04. > Opensuse OBS repository shows darktable 4.4 only for 23.04. Is it supported > on Ubuntu 22.04? don't really know but would bet it is. a simple proof would be to try it. warning, backup your library.db before trying as I believe 4.41 library is not backward compatible with 4.40. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04
Greetings, It's not clear to me if latest release of darktable is supported on 22.04. Opensuse OBS repository shows darktable 4.4 only for 23.04. Is it supported on Ubuntu 22.04? Regards, Niranjan darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
