Aw: Re: Re: [darktable-user] Nvidia graphic card replacement

2017-12-06 Thread Michael Fritze 

Hi Carlos,

 

I'm building a new PC myself, but currently it's only the plan to do so ;-)

 

However I would be interested if someone could test if the 1050 (Ti) is OK with current DT or if there is a major bug and 1060 is much better/faster.

 

Micha.

 

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. Dezember 2017 um 13:10 Uhr
Von: "Carlos Arigós" 
An: "Remco Viëtor" , darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [darktable-user] Nvidia graphic card replacement



I am building a new PC, little by little. So far, I have the cabinet, motherboard, micro, memory, and a watercooling system. The video card is pending.
I'll leave the old PC as a 'muleto' ;-)
For my way of working with Darktable, no more than one, or two photos per session, and a very simple edition, I do not need great performances.
I think a 1050 will be enough advance compared to the 450.
Thank you very much everyone for the help.

Carlos
 

El 06/12/17 a las 03:38, Remco Viëtor escribió:


On mercredi 6 décembre 2017 07:22:18 CET Michael Fritze wrote:



Carlos,
 
please note that "Ti" versions are faster. With only 2D fans should be off.
 
Passmark says 720 points for your old card, 3250 for a 1050 Ti, 2768 for a
1050 non-Ti: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html
 
So faster anyway :-)



https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=darktable-opencl-gpu=1
might be interesting as well. And there the 1050(TI) doesn't do that well, 
you'd have to go to at least a 1060 (which I did, and it works very well, even 
things like equalizer or profiled denoise are virtually instantanous)

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Re: Aw: Re: Re: [darktable-user] Nvidia graphic card replacement

2017-12-06 Thread Remco Viëtor 
On mercredi 6 décembre 2017 08:21:19 CET Michael Fritze wrote:
> Remco, thanks for pointing on this result.
>  
> Does anyone have a 1050 (Ti) and can confirm this result with current
> Darktable version? Isn't the "boat" picture the same as the Bench.srw?
>  
> 1060 can be in 3 and 6 GB versions. Is dt speed related to amount of card
> memory? 
> 1060 is a bit higher priced than 1050 Ti, but when 2.5/3x faster it may be
> worth it. passmark says approx 1.5x faster only. 
> 1050 Ti has several advantages: less power consumtion, smaller power suppy
> possible, less noise that's why I considered this one. 
> Regards, Micha.

As Michael Rasmussen pointed out, the GPU isn't the only factor to take into 
account. You have to look at the whole system, to get the most for your money.

I have the 1060 card (6 Gb version) on a system with an Intel i5-7500 and 16 
Gb RAM. Not entry level, but certainly not top of the line either. 

The "boat" benchmark from that Phoronix page maxes out the GPU, not the CPU, 
and takes a few seconds to export, darkroom mode shows some delay on e.g. 
zooming in. But that image is particularly time-consuming, most of my own show 
no noticable delay while editing, even with the heavier operations like 
profiled denoise (or the heavier demosaic operations). And the fans on the card 
rarely kick in (certainly no worse than the system fans, probably because most 
of the time the GPU is used in short bursts).

And I find that more important than the time taken on export: I usually edit a 
series of images, and then export those in a batch. While that runs, I can do 
something else, so no problem if it takes 10s or 20s. Having any noticable 
delay while actually editing is (for me) much more annoying, as it interrupts 
the flow (and even a fairly short delay gets annoying when you're adjusting a 
parameter).



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Aw: Re: Re: [darktable-user] Nvidia graphic card replacement

2017-12-05 Thread Michael Fritze 

Remco, thanks for pointing on this result.

 

Does anyone have a 1050 (Ti) and can confirm this result with current Darktable version?

Isn't the "boat" picture the same as the Bench.srw?

 

1060 can be in 3 and 6 GB versions. Is dt speed related to amount of card memory?

 

1060 is a bit higher priced than 1050 Ti, but when 2.5/3x faster it may be worth it. passmark says approx 1.5x faster only.

 

1050 Ti has several advantages: less power consumtion, smaller power suppy possible, less noise that's why I considered this one.

 

Regards, Micha.

 

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. Dezember 2017 um 07:38 Uhr
Von: "Remco Viëtor" 
An: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [darktable-user] Nvidia graphic card replacement

On mercredi 6 décembre 2017 07:22:18 CET Michael Fritze wrote:
> Carlos,
>
> please note that "Ti" versions are faster. With only 2D fans should be off.
>
> Passmark says 720 points for your old card, 3250 for a 1050 Ti, 2768 for a
> 1050 non-Ti: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html
>
> So faster anyway :-)

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=darktable-opencl-gpu=1
might be interesting as well. And there the 1050(TI) doesn't do that well,
you'd have to go to at least a 1060 (which I did, and it works very well, even
things like equalizer or profiled denoise are virtually instantanous)

Remco


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