[datameet] [Draft for Consultation]: National Geo-spatial Policy, 2016.

2016-05-09 Thread H. S. Sudhira
Dear All,

As we are looking through the draft bill, there seems to be some light here
from the Department of Science and Technology (DST). They have formulated a
draft National Geo-spatial Policy, 2016. Please see these:

http://www.dst.gov.in/news/national-geospatial-policy-public-consultation-upto-300516-your-views-may-be-send

National Geospatial Policy for public consultation upto 30.05.16. Your
views may be send to bhoopsi...@nic.in

The draft policy is made available here:
http://www.dst.gov.in/sites/default/files/Draft-NGP-Ver%201%20ammended_05May2016.pdf


Cheers,
Sudhira.

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[datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

2016-05-09 Thread Craig Dsouza
I am in favour of a strong stance against this bill being passed in any 
form. There should be (almost) no compromises. The only regulation I can 
possibly support is regulating map providers so that they blank out all 
military areas, but this bill is much much larger in scope than that. We 
should directly raise the question of what goal is really achieved by this 
bill? Since ostensibly, the main purpose of the bill i.e. preserving the 
'*security, 
sovereignity and integrity of India*' can still be threatened because 
geospatial data (satellite imagery etc) for India is still available to 
people outside India. 
Many have suggested that this is not really about integrity but 
representation i.e. international boundaries, to compel map providers to 
show India's boundaries, as declared by the GoI. This in fact Google 
already does, they show all of J as India's territory. Even if they don't 
in my opinion amounts to restriction on freedom of speech if you are not 
allowed to make a map showing that one part of the country is claimed by 
other governments, or a map showing that some people, somewhere are 
demanding a new state.
This bill will also severely affect NGOs which definitely cannot afford the 
process of licensing for every single map they wish to use/publish. It 
could also be used as a tool to silence dissent if organizations publish 
maps the government doesn't like.

The *email template* to be sent out is top priority. Is there someone 
already working on it? It should reject the bill altogether explaining why 
this bill doesn't really achieve its stated purpose and also how it will 
stifle GIS innovation in India.
The wording of the email template will need to be simple language, without 
tech jargon. 

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:38:46 AM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>
> Or else all those small players will have to go Underground as happens in 
> oppressive regimes.
>
> On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 9:37:30 PM UTC+5:30, Gagan Bansal wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote: 
>> > HI,  
>> > 
>> > I was shocked to see this news today.  
>> > 
>> > 
>> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
>>  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > A part from the news  
>> > 
>> > "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would soon 
>> be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and 
>> disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India through 
>> space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and 
>> license from a government authority."  
>> > 
>> > A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Rgards  
>> > Dilip Damle 
>>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> Here are my observations: 
>> # I feel if this bill is passed in partial/modified or full, not at all 
>>  good for small companies/startup that are working on open source map 
>> data/OSM or creating geospatial data in some form. as big companies 
>> (International mapping companies or utility/telecom companies) can easily 
>> set up a division to liaison with licensing authority on monthly basis or 
>> as per requirement. But for small companies this would not be possible. So 
>> in any form of licensing is problematic. 
>>
>> # Another major point, In India most of the geospatial companies are 
>> service companies which are working for government agencies. So data 
>> ownership for such services would be with govt. agencies hence licensing 
>> policy is not applicable here and would not affect these companies. Most 
>> likely all research/educational institutions would not be included in 
>> licensing policy. So very small segment of industry is affected. To raise 
>> the voice there are very few people if we compare this bill with net 
>> neutrality bill. 
>>
>> So tackling the problem is not very simple. 
>>
>> We should put this issue that this bill is against "Digital India" and 
>> "Make in India" objective and I feel its truly against these. 
>>
>> Regards, 
>> Gagan
>
>

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Re: [datameet] [Bangalore] Open Data Camp 2016: Pollution Party!

2016-05-09 Thread Thejesh GN
There is flickr too datameetorg
On 09-May-2016 3:49 pm, "Arun Ganesh"  wrote:

> Perfect! Sorry, I searched quite a bit, could not find it.
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Nisha Thompson  wrote:
>
>> youtube channel
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/datameet
>>
>> http://datameet.org/type/gallery/
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Nisha Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What do you mean? Pics and videos?
>>>
>>> They will be on datameet.org
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Arun Ganesh 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Is there a collection of open media from previous events I could use
 for publicity, not finding anything on the wiki.

 On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Nisha Thompson 
 wrote:

> Arun
>
> Updated! Please share widely!
>
> Nisha
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Arun Ganesh 
> wrote:
>
>> The day 2 workshop for kids sounds great. Nisha, would really love to
>> share that poster in educational groups, can we have the age group and 
>> any
>> requirements in the poster, would be really usefu. Lets really push hard
>> for more children to participate, this is essential to to make a 
>> meaningful
>> community.
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Nisha Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey All
>>>
>>> Happy to say we have less then a week til Bangalore Open Data Camp:
>>> Pollution Party!
>>>
>>> Please see the schedule and register here:
>>>
>>> 

[datameet] ML India Gurgaon chapter - 1st meetup

2016-05-09 Thread Nishank Varshney
Hi All,

As an initiative ​of ML-India , we have started
it's Gurgaon
chapter , which will
hold frequent machine learning meetups where machine learning enthusiasts
can meet and discuss latest or seminal research in the field.

We are starting off with an event this Saturday (14/5/2016), where we will
be starting off with the intro to supervised learning along with some
hands-on exercises. If time permits, we can discuss this paper: *A Machine
Learning Approach to Twitter User Classification by Marco Pennacchiotti and
Ana-Maria Popescu* [Link]
,
which talks about detecting user's political affiliation, ethnicity and
affinity for a particular business using rich linguistic features on user's
behavior, with an application to Twitter.

Earlier, we had also started the *Banglore chapter* which has conducted
multiple interesting meetups. Read about them here
.

RSVP your participation for the meetup here
.

To join the Bangalore chapter, click here
.

To join our mailing list for the latest updates, click here
.

Thanks

Nishank Varshney
Aspiring Minds Research

*Research blog* : Learn more about what
we do
*ASSESS 2015* : Our annual
international workshop on data-driven assessments
*Data science for kids* : Our fun initiative
to teach kids data science

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Re: [datameet] [Bangalore] Open Data Camp 2016: Pollution Party!

2016-05-09 Thread Nisha Thompson
What do you mean? Pics and videos?

They will be on datameet.org

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Arun Ganesh  wrote:

> Is there a collection of open media from previous events I could use for
> publicity, not finding anything on the wiki.
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Nisha Thompson  wrote:
>
>> Arun
>>
>> Updated! Please share widely!
>>
>> Nisha
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>>
>>> The day 2 workshop for kids sounds great. Nisha, would really love to
>>> share that poster in educational groups, can we have the age group and any
>>> requirements in the poster, would be really usefu. Lets really push hard
>>> for more children to participate, this is essential to to make a meaningful
>>> community.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Nisha Thompson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey All

 Happy to say we have less then a week til Bangalore Open Data Camp:
 Pollution Party!

 Please see the schedule and register here:

 

Re: [datameet] [Bangalore] Open Data Camp 2016: Pollution Party!

2016-05-09 Thread Arun Ganesh
The day 2 workshop for kids sounds great. Nisha, would really love to share
that poster in educational groups, can we have the age group and any
requirements in the poster, would be really usefu. Lets really push hard
for more children to participate, this is essential to to make a meaningful
community.

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Nisha Thompson  wrote:

> Hey All
>
> Happy to say we have less then a week til Bangalore Open Data Camp:
> Pollution Party!
>
> Please see the schedule and register here:
>
> 

Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

2016-05-09 Thread Avinash Celestine
Also, i guess its worthwhile pointing out that if the primary aim is to
prevent inaccurate depiction of India's borders and impose penalties on
those who do, there is already existing legislation which does that.

https://indiankanoon.org/doc/496978/

Plus, the IT act too penalises wrong depiction of boundaries.

it is worth looking at this piece from back in 2007, which talked about the
possibility of such legislation:

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/IRguUu8B1fWHgS8ej3rI5M/Showing-incorrect-map-could-become-a-crime.html



On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:21 PM, shirish शिरीष 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As a layman user of maps, did my 2-bit.
>
>
> https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2016/05/09/using-gps-without-license-jail-for-7-years/
>
> People are welcome to critique it (I know it goes all over the place
> and have added govt. conspiracy which some people might not be
> comfortable with) .
>
> Do have suggestion that if people do make blog posts that the least we
> can do is do ping and linkback to each other, if for nothing but to
> show solidarity in the cause.
>
> My 2 paise :)
>
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