Re: [Debconf-discuss] lost OPUS card

2017-08-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Antonio Terceiro (2017-08-08 22:26:06)
> I think I lost an OPUS card earlier today, which I only noticed when
> already at the Metro station when leaving. I should have probably lost
> it at the tables on the left side of Rex, when I left after the
> "Installing Debian BoF" (17:00-17:45).

KiBi mentioned yesterday on irc having found a OPUS card while frontdesk 
was not open.

I suggest first ask at front desk, and if not there then try locate 
KiBi.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] US laptop ban and DebConf

2017-03-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Steven Chamberlain (2017-03-21 11:21:30)
> martin f krafft wrote:
> > Do not fly via the US.
> 
> That's my plan also, but:
> 
> the article suggests that at least Royal Jordanian Airlines would impose
> the restriction on flights to Montreal despite *not* landing in the US.
> 
> I don't believe the media coverage;  but if this really does happen,
> hopefully everyone can find a flight/airline avoiding such
> restrictions.  My ideas would be using KLM (direct from Europe) or Wizz
> Air (via Rejkjavik :)

Always do a stop-over in Iceland if that is an option!

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] How does the KSP pseudo-keyring look for *you*?

2016-07-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gunnar Wolf (2016-07-02 10:26:00)
> Yesterday I spent some time having fun (read, mostly cursing at my 
> programming skills, but achieving nice things in the end).
>
> So, I formed the people signed up for the DC16 keyring, and layed out 
> how the keyring looks for each of them _today_— Who is connected to 
> whom. It was fun to make, and it might be fun for you to use! It shows 
> who have you really exchanged signatures with, so it can even be 
> useful.
> 
> So, enjoy!
> 
> https://people.debian.org/~gwolf/dc16_ksp/

Nice.

Source code?

I notice at least Anibal is listed twice. A possible improvement might 
be to list _persons_ rather than keys - i.e. merge based on email 
addresses, and perhaps consult mia-query¹ or the public FOAF page² (and 
until that come online instead scrabe from top of QA page³) for even 
more identifiers to merge.

 - Jonas

¹ ssh qa.debian.org /srv/qa.debian.org/mia/mia-query j...@debian.org

² curl -L -H 'Accept: text/turtle' 
http://webid.debian.net/maintainers/d...@jones.dk

³ https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=Jonas+Smedegaard

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] hardware which runs Debian or a blend or a sub-set, debian blends, gaming on open day/week-end.

2016-06-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Bernelle Verster (2016-06-02 09:17:56)
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM, shirish शिरीष <shirisha...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> The expert in this area would obviously be Jonas as he has been 
>> working with embedded and is in know of much, much more and he would 
>> be probably more aware of which devices can have debian in a jiffy 
>> and which would require lot more work.

No, the Debian experts on embedded stuff are the emdebian folks!


> Jonas is also a purist, which is great, but I think in this context
> and with the time limit, we need to look at what is agreeable without
> being too ideological. Have a look at the ShowMeBox stuff, Jonas and
> others did a lot of work there. Unfortunately the ShowMeBox as it is
> currently envisaged may not make it to DebConf16, but this idea may
> incorporate some of it.
> https://wiki.debian.org/ShowMeBox

Thanks - I consider "purist" as a compliment. :-)

You will sure need to be pragmatic to get things working fast.  But you 
will also need to be realistic.

My biggest concern with the things mentioned by Shirish is not how 
challenging those devices are to tinker with using purely Debian, but 
how challenging they are to tinker with _at_ _all_.

 - Jonas

P.S.  Incidentally, I will attend a haccker session this weekend with 
the GTA04 developers - i.e. the successor to OpenMoko.  No, that doesn't 
make me an expert on that device: I offer help _packaging_ the code for 
the device.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] hardware which runs Debian or a blend or a sub-set, debian blends, gaming on open day/week-end.

2016-06-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting shirish शिरीष (2016-06-02 01:33:20)
> for instance the galileo package which just entered Debian archive 
> just today which works with 'fitbit' devices (have no idea what they 
> are.).

Fitbit is a black-box gadget for use for e.g. measuring how many steps 
you take a day. The galileo software can only grab encoded data dumps 
and upload it to the accompanying cloud service - yes, the package 
description also mentions "possibly" being able to decode locally, but 
so far that is merely wishful thinking.  Not an example of hardware that 
run Debian.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian wine, again?

2016-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
[Bernelle, please don't top-post]

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Hideki Yamane <henr...@debian.or.jp> 
wrote:
> I bought Debian wine @Debconf9 in Spain, and wonder there would be 
> another Debconf wine in "winelands" beautiful South Africa :)

Quoting Bernelle Verster (2016-04-03 11:15:42)
> I think beer would be a better bet :) I say this tongue in cheek as my 
> personal preference is beer, but I do have two other reasons for 
> saying this:
> 
> 1. I don't know any winemakers in SA who are passionate about Debian 
> or open source generally, mainly because I don't know winemakers. But 
> I'm sure the community can rustle someone up.
> 
> 2. Many of our open source community members (specifically in the Cape 
> Linux Users Group are avid beer brewers. One, Honingklip [1] brewery's 
> Mark Ter Morshuizen even made it his day-job. We have a local brewing 
> club in the Cape, called the South-Yeasters, and they have an annual 
> competition to make interesting beers. So we could brew a Debian beer, 
> have a few requirements and let the brewers come up with their 
> offerings. The logo design on its own would intrigue me!
> 
> E.g. the beer could be an amber ale (to go with Debian red) ... , it 
> has to be an open source recipe ... I dunno, something like that.

A rule for the competition could be that it should be a fork of FREE 
BEER¹ - i.e. use same freely licensed brand and recipe.

I am not much of a beer drinker myself, so bonus points for also making 
forks of OpenCola².


 - Jonas


¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Beer

² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_%28drink%29

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf's furry friends

2016-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Bernelle Verster (2016-04-03 11:18:33)
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Daniel Pocock <dan...@pocock.pro> wrote:
>> On 31/03/16 03:00, Steve Langasek wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 09:10:27PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>>> DebConf14 had a near miss with a bear:
>>>
>>>> http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/06/black_bear_found_in_ne_portlan.html
>>>
>>>>  and now DebConf16 is going to beat that with a big cat:
>>>
>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35920516
>>>
>>> I'm sure Montreal will be able to top this, Canada has polar
>>> bears.
>>
>>
>>
>> and you don't want to run into this guy in the dark:
>>
>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/loose-moose-caught-in-montreal-1.939805
> 
> There was the wasps at DC15 ...
> 
> SA seems to do a good job at embarrassing ourselves before big events
> ... in 2010 around the FIFA football/soccer world cup, Panjo the tiger
> escaped in Jo'burg. We are not even supposed to have tigers in Africa.
> 
> http://traveller24.news24.com/Explore/Bush/SAs-most-infamous-animal-escape-artists-20150617

When only we cannot expect meese¹ in SA, I am calm.

 - Jonas

What's the plural of moose?

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Train from Luxembourg to Heidelberg

2015-06-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Tiago,

Quoting Tiago Bortoletto Vaz (2015-06-01 14:07:21)
 It seems Luxembourg is a reasonable option for flights coming from 
 North America (at least less expensive than going to Frankfurt). Has 
 anyone an idea about the train from there to Heidelberg?

German railways have good tracking of not only national trains but also 
connecting trains in neighbouring countries.  Therefore the easiest is 
to go to their booking website: http://bahn.com/

If you seek precomposed routes, then obviously someone then need to have 
composed the needed routes ahead.  Generally I dearly recommend 
https://rail.cc/ (formerly raildude.net) for that, but apparently they 
haven't made any routes specifically for Luxembourg → Heidelberg: 
https://en.rail.cc/heidelberg/train-connection/l/10458#rail


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Do not photograph checkbox in registration

2014-09-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Sullivan (2014-09-05 04:26:36)
 Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc writes:

 On 4 September 2014 13:38, martin f krafft madd...@madduck.net wrote:
 also sprach Aigars Mahinovs aigar...@gmail.com [2014-09-04 12:33 -0700]:
 On a side note: I am note aware of any legal or privacy problems 
 occuring from uploading public CC/GPL-licensed photos to either 
 Google Plus or Flickr (paid version in both cases)

 Do their terms of service not include any form of implicit copyright 
 transferral, e.g. what Facebook does? IANAL, but if you upload a 
 picture to Facebook, you are giving it to them for whatever their 
 use may be. If that use is in violation of the licence on the data, 
 then I'd say *you* as the uploader are the one breaching the 
 licence.

 http://blog.flickr.net/en/2011/05/13/at-flickr-your-photos-are-always-yours/

 The terms do not seem to have materially changed in the interim.

 This appears to be similar to the license given to Facebook at
 https://www.facebook.com/terms.php:


 Those licenses seem incompatible with CC-BY-SA and such (when it comes 
 to photos by not yourself), since they require giving the site a 
 license which permits some proprietary redistribution.

If you mean those are not strong copyleft licenses then I agree - and 
am not surprised.

If you mean those licenses are not suitable for our redistribution 
then (I personally dislike it but) believe that's not a problem for 
Debian if the copyright holder (i.e. the photographer, I assume) is fine 
with it.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Do not photograph checkbox in registration

2014-09-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Holger Levsen (2014-09-05 16:32:54)
 On Freitag, 5. September 2014, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 I believe we don't upload there - the copyright holder (or someone 
 else licensed to do so) does.

 yes, but *we* invite the photographer, Aigars, to make these photos on 
 *our* behalf, so I think we have a say on the licence too. I'd 
 appreciate if we would only invite photographers who publish photos as 
 we like, not them.

I was unaware that the works contributed by Aigar has special status.

Or do we also want to discuss which licensing you and I apply to our 
work in Debian?

I honestly thought we simply required licensing of any contributions in 
Debian to be compatible with DFSG and request it not get in the way of 
works of others where possible.

Which other contributed works has special status in Debian?


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] My personal (and longish) report from DebConf (Was: DebConf13 Final Report - We need you)

2013-09-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andreas Tille (2013-09-03 15:24:22)
 The next BoF was the Debian Multimedia meeting.  It was nice that a 
 member of Ubuntu Studio joined the meeting (unfortunately I forgot the 
 name - does anybody remember??).

Kaj Ailomaa http://zequence.net/ - current leader of Ubuntu Studio.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Salmiakki available at the bar

2013-08-15 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting martin f krafft (2013-08-15 13:43:18)
 It is my pleasure to let you know that Monty of the MariaDB project 
 has just brought 4 bottles of Salmiakki to the bar, which are now 
 standing by the stickers exchange box and are free for grabs. Please 
 don't take the bottles just like that, but fill yourself a cup.
 
 Memories of DebConf 5 come back. And even if not: enjoy!

Great!  Sipping on it for an hour by now.  Party!


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Anyone booked train seats for Yverdon?

2013-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Wookey (2013-08-08 16:27:59)
 I've already got train tickets to Vallorbe, but need a bus from there 
 to Yverdon and then Vaumarcus. Can I easily just arrive and buy one on 
 the bus? Or I have to get a ticket at the station? The above link lets 
 me buy one in advance, but it's not clear if that's valid for just one 
 time or that journey at any time that day?
 
 Unfortunately I only have 7 mins between train and bus, so getting it 
 in advance would be good.

Bus route Yverdon to Vaumarcus feels quite local - the driver of my bus 
even stopped in the middle of a sharp curve, blocking the whole road, to 
greet an elder man and (I guess) talk about the weather for about a 
minute, before continuing.  That bus did not accept creditcards seemed 
to me that the normal think was to buy on board - not ahead.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Travelling by train from France

2013-07-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Martín Ferrari (2013-07-23 16:39:09)
 I was researching train tickets to go to DC13, and found that 
 voyages-sncf.fr does not recognise yverdon-les-bains, and only 
 suggests yverdon (which I cannot find in a map). I assume it is the 
 same thing, but then it suggests different trains than the ones I see 
 in bahn.de or in sbb.ch (which sucks big time to find tickets).
 
 So, anyone knows about this? Or any recommendation of where to buy the 
 tickets? (bahn.de does not sell them, and sbb won't tell me prices 
 until I selected every part of the trip)

bahn.de (and bahn.com - same thing essentially) has special discount for 
going to/from Germany.  What I found cheapest was buying one ticket from 
Denmark to a transit city in Germany, and then an independent ticket 
from that city to Switzerland.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Translation DebConf12 srt File

2012-11-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Zaki Akhmad (2012-11-29 05:54:13)
 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Victor Martinez 
 victor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Not at this moment, madamezou at this moment has done the better on 
  document a current workflow [1] and suggest tools, also myself have 
  suggested another tools available on Debian [2], but now that you 
  mention, even when I don't think is a task directly for VideoTeam I, 
  going to make a page to document some of the tools and madamezou 
  workflow
 
  [1] http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20120717.132849.fb410503.en.html
  [2] http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20120906.133626.c825a90e.en.html

Thanks.  That's a good start!


 Sorry, I'm missing context here. What is madamezou? Or is it who? Handle name?

She's a Debian developer:

http://portfolio.debian.net/result?email=madame...@debian.org
https://identi.ca/madamezou

:-)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Translation DebConf12 srt File

2012-11-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Zaki Akhmad (2012-11-28 06:58:56)
 today I released the ID (Indonesian) translation subtitle from 
 DebConf12 Video, the Bits from DPL, by Stefano Zacchirolli. 
 https://github.com/za/debconf12
 
 I'd like to say thank you for the debconf video team, especially the 
 one who made the EN srt so that I could easily translate it.
 
 I wrote a blog post to spread the word (it's in Indonesian)
 http://blogs.itb.ac.id/zakiakhmad/2012/11/28/rilis-subtitle-indonesia-bit-dari-dpl-dalam-debconf12/

Cool!

Do the Video team somewhere document a best practice of creating the 
master srt, and/or keep track of tools usable for that?

Regards,

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Going to Nicaragua from Europe: avoid Iberia

2012-04-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-04-06 at 11:42am, Philip Hands wrote:
 On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 00:48:25 -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org 
 wrote: ...
  Through SkyTeam.com, you can also access the schedules of all 
  SkyTeam partners to plan your flights on the airline of your 
  choice.
  
  DebConf12's Event ID is 2254S.
  
  Let me know if you have any issues!
 
 Looking for flights from Berlin, trying out various dates, but 
 settling on these as a definite example: 27th June ... 16th July
 
 Looking on expiedia.de I get offered a KLM flight (Out: 09:15..19:36, 
 Return: 14:49...16:30 among many options) for:
 
   1,145.49  EUR

I recommend http://skyscanner.dk/ offering similarly low deals, and 
unlike Expedia compares against nearby travel dates and locations.

There's also http://momondo.com/ but in my experience slower to load and 
often finds weaker deals than Skyscanner.

Both Skyscanner and Momondo is oddly enough danish, but apparently works 
fine from anywhere - I used it to buy tickets in East Asia last Fall.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf13 in Vaumarcus, Switzerland bid

2011-12-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-12-27 at 12:02am, Andreas Tille wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 09:08:12AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
    http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Switzerland/Bid
  
  Le Camp looks beautiful :)
  
  Good to see a bid not in a city!
 
 + in the center of Europe (I mean the continent not the EU ;-)) so
 several people can use alternative transportation than plane.

I believe Eurasia is a continent.  And looking at european countries I 
believe the center is somewhere in Denmark ig south Norway due to the 
length of Norway (often bent by mapping tricks).

...but anyways I share your excitement.  Plural - both about non-city 
and ability to hith-hike there for europeans (and other eurasians).


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] pictures and privacy (was: my pictures so far (including the bicyle tour))

2011-08-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-08-05 at 05:49pm, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 
  However, I would be totally opposed to people tagging/labelling
  pictures with the name of attendees, without those attendees knowing
  it. In short:
  OK (sort of): publishing (reasonable) pictures of attendees without them
  knowing about it.
  Not OK: helping search engines index them using attendees' names.
 
 When did the DebConf group photo start having those?

I believe Debconf5 in Helsinki had names attached while Debconf4 in 
Porto Alegre (my first) didn't.


 I think it would better if we went back to an anonymous group photo 
 plus mugshots for those who don't mind being tagged.

I have no strong opinion on this.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Thinkpad TracPoint replacement rubber cap

2011-07-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-07-17 at 12:15pm, Philip Hands wrote:
 It would be very useful is someone could provide me with a new rubber 
 bit to put on the TrackPoint on my X200 -- I know there were some 
 spares that came with it, but they're in London while I'm in Banja 
 Luka, and it seems that the one that's fitted to mine at present is 
 stretched enough so that it's now becoming almost completely useless.
 
 I'm very happy to pay in cash or beer for such an item :-)

I am leaving in 5 minutes for the train across Europe.  I just spent 
more than an hour searching for my miniSD adapter and now have a fresh 
recollection of where all my stuff is, including 2 spare rubber pieces.  
I'll bring those along! :-)


See you all soon!

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Fwd: Re: Ho Ho Ho

2011-07-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-07-17 at 03:41pm, Vedran Omeragic wrote:
 I could do this. I'll just make a txt file and keep it on debconf-team 
 so we ca track who got sim card and what number.

 1) Register the long serial on the SIM together with phone number.
 2) Produce a pile of identical small notes with this text:
Please text (a.k.a. sms) your name to this number
 3) Hand out SIM + note, and register phone number together with user.
 4) Wait for users to report back - as a verification.

...and optional:

 5) Setup Kannel to receive all name+number reports, publish them on 
some web page, and reply a note telling the URL for the web page.

I'd be happy to help with 5) after tomorrow when I arrive - if 
interested.


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[Debconf-discuss] Possibility of sponsorship for accomodation?

2011-05-31 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi,

Sorry for the cross-post: I don't know where is most appropriate to ask.

Is it still possible to get sponsored accomodation? I applied for it, 
but then (non-formally) posted an email to -discuss that I decided not 
to go, and now it seems my registration at pentabarf is dropped.

I now found money for travelling (which was my reason to back out), so 
would love to participate if possible to still be sponsored for the 
living expenses during debcamp and debconf.


Kind regards,

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Important news regarding travel to Banja Luka

2011-05-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-05-24 at 10:26pm, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
 One of our local team members from Tuzla (Dejan Marjanovic) did
 amazing job on working out the travel details on how to to get to
 Banja Luka.
 
 Please check www.DebConf11.com as it's one stop shop for all
 information regarding needed information to get to Banja Luka, your
 stay there and eventual departure.

Wauw!

Is that website a Free Software project?  I would be interested in 
looking closer at both the design of the site (e.g. look at applying 
Kalle's Debian design using Sass), and the data points (e.g. juggling 
with OpenStreetMap and RDF).


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[Debconf-discuss] I won't attend Debconf :-(

2011-05-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi friends,

I won't be at Debconf this year.

As odd as it may sound, I cannot afford it - because I am too lousy 
dealing with paperwork: Failed to collect granted sponsorship for last 
year Debconf, and failed to write the report required for sponsorship of 
my recent Vietnam trip. :-(

This is no complaint.  I find the paperwork procedures sensible.

What would be helpful for me, if possible, was a way to do paperwork 
_ahead_ instead of afterwards.  Not payment ahead, just providing the 
paperwork required for sponsorship ahead.  Then I could tie my 
commitment with my ability to do that paperwork which freaks me out, 
instead of as it is now: gamble and learn later how much I ended up 
paying myself even if provided all good intent from the organization.



Enjoy Debconf!  I will think about you a lot.


 - Jonas

If interested, here is my status: http://wiki.jones.dk/PrivatBudget

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Questions about Banja Luka

2011-03-31 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:55:20AM +0100, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta wrote:
How about speed traps? Are they frequent? How nice is the police if 
you get stopped for some reason? Yes, I fear the police more that other 
things in some countries. (Including those not tagged as dangerous 
countries).


How about simply not driving faster than allowed?

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[Debconf-discuss] [OT] [OT] Can you repeat, please?

2010-08-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:36:39PM +0100, Tim Retout wrote:

On 10 August 2010 19:26, Luca Capello l...@pca.it wrote:
Basically, given that I am not an English native speaker, I tend to 
make errors, thus sometime the person in front of me does not 
understand.  I found out that she/he replies to me with different 
expressions, used AFAIK without any preference WRT her/his origin.


Until now, I have found three of them: say what?, what's that? 
and say it again, the first two being a word game Biella, Zack and 
me started the last days after I explained the above to both of them.


Say what? definitely sounds US English.  I wouldn't use the other two 
either.


Your basic four UK responses are as follows, in descending order of 
politeness:


Pardon?, Sorry?, Come again?, What?.

For bonus points, elaborate:

I beg your pardon, what did you say?
I'm terribly sorry, come again?

If all else fails, add more self-deprecation and explanation:

I'm afraid I didn't quite hear, would you mind awfully repeating that 
please?


This actually happened to me in New York with someone asking for money. 
It seemed somewhat unfair not to give it to them at that point, after 
making them repeat themselves so many times.


In Denmark we say Hvad? or Hvadbehager? (like english What? or 
What, please?).


We tend to swallow endings of most words, however (described by other 
scandinavians as their language with a hot potato in the mouth).  Thus 
what we spit out really is Hva'? (like english huh?) or Hva' 
ba'?.


A friend of mine teaching danish to refugees told me some years ago that 
a student came to him wondering why when trying out his newly taught 
danish expressions in a bus or on the street, people would respond 
Whopper!.



 - Jonas

Amazed (but not proud) of my own mother tongue

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Thanking our sponsors

2010-05-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:00:16AM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:

Hi Micah,

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 06:31:40PM -0400, micah anderson wrote:
My guess is the great DrDub, who has been doing an amazingly 
significant amount of work in discussing with sponsors and potential 
sponsors has discussed with them the relative merits of donating, and 
perhaps the perk of the logo on the shirt is part of that sell.


It would be interesting to know if he has heard one way or the other 
From the sponsors, if cared about that or not. I'm certainly no 
monetary sponsor, and probably should not use myself as a model, but 
if I were, I would be sponsoring Debconf because my company benefits 
significantly From Debian as a distribution. Either because it is a 
core business, or makes up critical internal infrastructure. The 
existence of a logo, or not, would not matter to me because I saved 
10 gazillion dollars because we switched to Debian, and I want to 
keep that savings around.


I can assure you that, while you accurately describe the motivations 
and desires of some of our sponsors, other actual and potential 
sponsors do care about seeing their logo displayed on the shirts and in 
other cases. For them it's about getting publicity for their 
organization to an audience that might care about them, instead of 
giving back to Debian per se. Both types are useful sources of funding.


How about then explicitly selling that advertising space?

If only some of the sponsors are (highly) interested in their logo 
promoted on that t-shirt, then leaving out those who don't will make the 
logos of the others bigger :-)


...and we won't hide that this is what it is: a billboard for sale!

I believe we already at other places document who are big and who are 
small sponsors, so I guess we need not have the t-shirt be 
representative of that.



Just sharing an idea here.  I am not grumpy about the status quo, and 
highly appreciate the great work of the organisers!!



Kind regards, and looking forward to see you all soon,

 - Jonas

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Travelling from Montréal to NY f or DebCamp10, July?26th

2010-04-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:33:58AM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:

The various bus options will be significantly cheaper but also take 
longer due to traffic, and much more spartan / less comfortable. 
MegaBus and BoltBus both have free wifi, and BoltBus also has power 
outlets.


I travelled with a WiFi+power bus from Boston to NY last spring, and it 
was so unreliable that it was useless: It worked less than a minute, 
then we had to complain to the bus driver, who rebooted the WiFi router, 
and then it worked for a minute more...  After 10 rounds of complaints 
we gave up.



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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Travelling from Montréal to NY f or DebCamp10, July?26th

2010-04-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 05:43:39PM -0400, micah anderson wrote:

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:08:26 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:33:58AM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:

The various bus options will be significantly cheaper but also take 
longer due to traffic, and much more spartan / less comfortable. 
MegaBus and BoltBus both have free wifi, and BoltBus also has power 
outlets.


I travelled with a WiFi+power bus from Boston to NY last spring, and 
it was so unreliable that it was useless: It worked less than a 
minute, then we had to complain to the bus driver, who rebooted the 
WiFi router, and then it worked for a minute more...  After 10 rounds 
of complaints we gave up.


I've done multiple trips in the last few months, both directions and 
not experience something as bad as you did. There almost always is a 
few dead-spots along the route (it is cellular data), but nothing I 
couldn't handle. Maybe someone on your bus was running torrents while 
streaming hulu and ruining it for everyone.


I am pretty sure I did not use BoltBus.  And I am quite certain it was 
not just a dead spot or a lame passenger: the bus driver was in no way 
surprised that it failed contantly.


I would still choose bus over train next time, however - just wanted to 
warn that internet connection might not be reliable :-)


...and if you found it reliable then please do share with us which 
company you used.



 - Jonas


P.S.

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[Debconf-discuss] Free power socket and wifi at Madrid Chamartin station

2009-07-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 02:01:13PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting Tim Retout (t...@retout.co.uk):
 (I'm writing this from Chamartin station; thanks to Lucas for the tip
 about the wifi.)


Please share..:-)

(I got no working wireless thereI'll probably have no use of it 
tomorrow as I only have 2 hours between the train arrival and my plen 
taking off, but others might benefit from this)

There are quite few powerplugs in Chamartin. I found one close to an 
ATM facing the stairs down to platform 17.

I am currently at platform 17.  There is a free socket right next to the 
escalators. There is another free power socket (more convenient IMO) at 
the opposite site, right next to the cafe. A free wireless is reachable 
here with ESSID CSCclientes.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights

2009-07-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:30:12AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:31:23AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 And yes, next year I want a flag for each event (not) to be 
 videoed.

This would be a really reasonable extension for Penta.  If there would 
only be some documentation how to report Penta bugs ...

...or for some alternative tool.  Ana mentioned Penta being too complex 
and too buggy and proposed to switch (albeit that noone responded...)


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] no video coverage during nights

2009-07-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:23:56PM +0200, Torsten Werner wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Andreas Tilleandr...@an3as.eu wrote:
 This would be a really reasonable extension for Penta.  If there would
 only be some documentation how to report Penta bugs ...

Upstream's bug tracker is http://github.com/nevs/pentabarf/issues
and Debian's bug tracker is https://rt.debian.org/.

Hmm - I suspect you meant https://rt.debconf.org/

No public access?


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (formal announcement)

2009-07-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 08:29:49PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
So, I suggest that people who want to joint us in a cheese shopping 
party just pop up at 11:00 at Front Desk tomorrow. As a reward, you'll 
get the title of core cheese team member and a few centilitres of my 
2000 Montagne St-Emilion will be reserved for you.

Does that cool title apply also to those (like me) that have already
bought some local cheese?


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[Debconf-discuss] Huge URL to talkrooms stream... (Was: Tiny URL to talkrooms stream...)

2009-07-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Smokers: Expected behaviour

2009-07-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 05:37:58PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
   The good news is the enviroment is very relaxed, so we are being
allowed to smoke right outside the venue, inside the garden, as long as
no cigarrette butts are found. And that means NOT one butt, or we will
be made to smoke ouside the venue premises.

Arrgh: If cigarette butts are found, we are all forced to smoke?

:-)


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 06:45:23PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009, Enrico Zini wrote:
 As an Italian who's used to relax during meals and have
 pleasant conversations, it kind of feels awkward.

+1

Hmmm - I always considered you german, not italian, Holger :-D


See you all soon!

  - Jonas

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf10 to take place in New York City, USA

2009-02-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 02:08:17PM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 I will not visit USA as long as they threat visitors the way they do, 
 with [...] kidnapping visitors and shipping them off to be tortured 
 in countries ignoring the human rights even more than USA does (Maher 
 Arar being the most known victim of this).

- kidnapping: IIRC some of the them was kidnapped in Europe, with
some support of our authorities.

Yes. Denmark helped refuell kidnappers planes in Greenland.

So let's not throw a Debconf at my backyard!


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] BOF Best practises in team-maintaining packages, part 2 - protocol

2008-08-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 08:53:45PM -0300, gregor herrmann wrote:

[from the protocol file]

 zack: We are not allowed to generate debian/control

This is not entirely true.

We are not allowed to let debian/control be generated by _default_.

It is similar to the maintainer-mode in automake/autoconf: normal 
builds must never change debian/control, but there is nothing wrong in 
generating it as part of our internal packaging routines, before 
releasing the final packaging.

Kernel team generates debian/control using custom scripts.  I believe it 
is automatically generated whenever some of the other static files below 
debian/ changes - and as a safety measure, the regeneration routine 
causes the build to break, to ensure no surprises with autobuilders.

I generate debian/control in some 80+ packages using custom extensions 
to cdbs (which I hope to soon make an official part of cdbs).  My 
approach is to set DEB_MAINTAINER_MODE=1 to allow auto-updating the 
control file from a control.in and some variables.  With this approach 
it is possible even to setup private autobuilders pulling directly from 
a VCS, updating control file and building test packages - only by adding 
that flag to the environment inside the autobuilder.

If interested, have a look at one of the most recent updated packages 
that I participate in packaging. A good example (because iis packaging 
is otherwise pretty simple) is sugar-journal-activity.


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