[Debconf-team] Debian/DebConf OpenPGP card opportunity

2013-07-08 Thread Daniel Pocock
Kernel Concepts is offering to put logos on the OpenPGP card for orders > 50 pieces I made an inquiry with them and they could also offer a bulk discount for a Debian purchase branded with the Debian or DebConf logos. It could then be arranged for somebody from Germany to bring them down to DebC

[Debconf-team] Network at Le Camp and a few questions to those who previously did the network at DebConf

2013-07-08 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, most of the network at Le Camp looks better than feared. (Well, they actually built up that infrastructure because of us.) We've got a very helpful and cooperative (and partially federal :-) ISP and they can give us a globally routed /22 IPv4 IP range without firewall or NAT. The connection t

Re: [Debconf-team] Thank you for the food and accommodation for DC13

2013-07-08 Thread Patty Langasek
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:53:28AM -0500, athanlibex wrote: > Hi team. Thank you very much for the support for food and accomodation > for this DebConf in Vaumarcus. Even though I can not go because of my > University activities in August and the travel cost, I only want to say > thank you for cons

[Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Raphaël Walther
Hi there, This is quite urgent please read. I would need your input as soon as possible. DISHWASHING Well, I have three persons interested for dishwashing and helping for CHF 800 per person from 10 august 2013 to 18 august 2013. The issue are the day will be very long for them from 10:00 to 22:0

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Patty Langasek
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:38:36PM +0200, Raphaël Walther wrote: > Hi there, > This is quite urgent please read. I would need your input as soon as possible. Thank you so much for looking into this! > DISHWASHING > Well, I have three persons interested for dishwashing and helping for CHF 800 >

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Montag, 8. Juli 2013, Raphaël Walther wrote: > DISHWASHING > Total cost CHF 5280 wow :( I'm not sure this is sensible... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-team mailing l

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Holger Levsen
seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of our total budget. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debco

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be > filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of our total budget. +1 I'd join a team to coordinate volunteers on this. Regards, -- -

Re: [Debconf-team] Thank you for the food and accommodation for DC13

2013-07-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Montag, 8. Juli 2013, Patty Langasek wrote: > If you haven't already, please log into your Penta account(0) and deselect > the option for "I want to attend this conference", and make sure the > "Reconfirm Attendance" box is also not checked. isn't not reconfirming enough? Jonathan is a very ni

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le lundi, 8 juillet 2013 20.04:35, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz a écrit : > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let > > them be filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of > > our total budget. > > +1

Re: [Debconf-team] Thank you for the food and accommodation for DC13

2013-07-08 Thread Patty Langasek
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:58:44PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Montag, 8. Juli 2013, Patty Langasek wrote: > > If you haven't already, please log into your Penta account(0) and deselect > > the option for "I want to attend this conference", and make sure the > > "Reconfirm Attendance" box is a

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Patty Langasek
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be > filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of our total budget. This was part of a long debate - unless we have enough volunteers dedicated to h

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Brian Gupta
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Patty Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >> seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be >> filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3% of our total budget. > > > This was part of a

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 02:37:01PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Patty Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > >> seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be > >> filled by volunteers... 5k for

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 08:21:37PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le lundi, 8 juillet 2013 20.04:35, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz a écrit : > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let > > > them be filled b

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Raphaël Walther
Hello Patty, On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:37:34AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:38:36PM +0200, Raphaël Walther wrote: > > DISHWASHING > > > > Total CHF 7523.16 > > Budget CHF 5600 > > =

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Montag, 8. Juli 2013, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > It's not necessarily true that attendees will miss important sessions if > they decided to volunteer on this. They will probably put their names for > date/time that they feel comfortable doing so without loosing anything > important. Socializi

Re: [Debconf-team] Network at Le Camp and a few questions to those who previously did the network at DebConf

2013-07-08 Thread Philip Hands
Axel Beckert writes: > Hi, > > most of the network at Le Camp looks better than feared. (Well, they > actually built up that infrastructure because of us.) > > We've got a very helpful and cooperative (and partially federal :-) > ISP and they can give us a globally routed /22 IPv4 IP range withou

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 11:18:10 -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > This was part of a long debate - unless we have enough volunteers dedicated > to handling this, or people who will take responsibility in the event that > the volunteers ... choose not to complete this task, it's unreasonable to > expec

Re: [Debconf-team] Network at Le Camp and a few questions to those who previously did the network at DebConf

2013-07-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Axel, On Montag, 8. Juli 2013, Axel Beckert wrote: > So my questions to the video team: > > * Does the video team network needs to be globally routed? please no! > * How many IPs does the video team need? public? one. cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi Brian Gupta writes: > That said, it does seem the hourly rates quoted seem high for the > nature of the work, so it would probably be worth exploring lower cost > options, but in the end, I think we really should be looking at not > having Developers missing sessions to wash dishes. I can as

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Gregor, On Montag, 8. Juli 2013, gregor herrmann wrote: > I consider it totally reasonable to strongly ask (at least sponsored) > participants to sign up for 1-2 shifts of dishwashing, and I'd > suggest to do this during registration: "Here's your name badge, your > room is over there, and plea

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Patty Langasek writes: > If this is the way we're going with this, we need to have the dishwashing > volunteer crew staffed and ready to start with the first full meal (lunch) > and finish with the last dinner, and someone to be responsible in the event > the crew can't manage the workload. > >

[Debconf-team] Next team meeting Tuesday 9th July 2013 1800 UTC #debconf-team

2013-07-08 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi As decided during the last team meeting we will have another team meeting tomorrow Tuesday 9th July 2013 in #debconf-team. From now on the plan is to have weekly meetings. The preliminary agenda is in the wiki [1]. Please add any topics you would like to discuss. Gaudenz [1] https://wiki.de

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 08/07/13 20:37, Brian Gupta wrote: > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Patty Langasek wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:57:07PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >>> seriously, buy two dishwashing machines (max 1000€ total) and let them be >>> filled by volunteers... 5k for dishwashing is like 3%

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Gaudenz, On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:12:51PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Brian Gupta writes: > > That said, it does seem the hourly rates quoted seem high for the > > nature of the work, so it would probably be worth exploring lower cost > > options, but in the end, I think we really shoul

Re: [Debconf-team] Network at Le Camp and a few questions to those who previously did the network at DebConf

2013-07-08 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi Axel Beckert writes: > The ISP though doesn't yet offer IPv6. So we'll need a tunnel. So my > questions to the team members who handled network at Debconfs before: > > * How have IPv6 tunnels been handled before at DebConfs? > * Do we have "our own" tunnel and tunnel broker or at least a >

Re: [Debconf-team] Network at Le Camp and a few questions to those who previously did the network at DebConf

2013-07-08 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi Phil, On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 08:33:29PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > We may also need some WiFi to ethernet bridges for one or two > > hacklabs, i.e. devices whose upstream connection is wireless and which > > provide ethernet connection to other devices. (The alterntive option > > is to pul

Re: [Debconf-team] Network at Le Camp and a few questions to those who previously did the network at DebConf

2013-07-08 Thread Philip Hands
Gaudenz Steinlin writes: > [...] > >> >> So another set of questions to the team members who handled network at >> previous Debconfs: >> >> * Who brought the WiFi access points in the past? Can those devices >> (or others) be brought again, too, to extend the existing >> WiFi infrastructure? >

Re: [Debconf-team] Network at Le Camp and a few questions to those who previously did the network at DebConf

2013-07-08 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 11:56:33PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Axel Beckert writes: > > The ISP though doesn't yet offer IPv6. So we'll need a tunnel. So my > > questions to the team members who handled network at Debconfs before: > > > > * How have IPv6 tunnels been handled before at De

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-07-08 21:20, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: IMO the way to go is that before tomorrows meeting we need to find enough persons willing to organize the dishwashing by volunteers and who are commited enough that in case of failure they are ready to do the unstaffed shifts themselves. I'd emphas

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 02:14:50AM +0100, Moray Allan wrote: > On 2013-07-08 21:20, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > >IMO the way to go is that before tomorrows meeting we need to find > >enough persons willing to organize the dishwashing by volunteers > >and who > >are commited enough that in case of fai

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Raphaël Walther
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:38:36PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > The cleaning rates seem reasonable for a cleaning company. I hear the > lowest cash rate paid to a cleaner is about 20 CHF/hour although many > refuse to work for less than 25 or 30. 20 CHF/hr is about the same as > the net rate the

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Raphaël Walther
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 02:16:13PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Gaudenz, > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:12:51PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > Brian Gupta writes: > > > That said, it does seem the hourly rates quoted seem high for the > > > nature of the work, so it would probably be wor

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Raphaël Walther
Hi, On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:38:36PM +0200, Raphaël Walther wrote: > So, my suggestion is to have two teams : > a) 3 people from 10:00 to 16:00 > b) 3 people from 16:00 to 22:00 > > They will prepare tables and be responsible for dishwashing. > > With current forfait, this would mean > Forfait

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mardi, 9 juillet 2013 05.16:15, Raphaël Walther a écrit : > So I just describe our options during DebConf here: > > A. Dishwashing fully volunteer based at no cost for the association. > B. Dishwashing partialy done by 3 students from 14:00 to 22:00 for > total cost of CHF 2640 and volunteer ba

Re: [Debconf-team] Urgent: Dishwashing & Cleaning

2013-07-08 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le lundi, 8 juillet 2013 21.09:43, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz a écrit : > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 08:21:37PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > First, this has been proposed and dismissed at the latest DebConf > > Team meeting [0]. > > Right, but it's not clear to me that we couldn't go back to this

[Debconf-team] T-shirts quote

2013-07-08 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi all, so I went and asked for a T-shirts' quote, for 585 T-shirts according to Moray's numbers proposal [0], the total price is "$24,750.00 pesos" (not including shipping), roughly 1,857.54 CHF at todays' XE rates. Should we go ahead with these numbers and pay the Mexican provider to get the