Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Bernelle Verster
Lol, the fancier hotels are *out* of town. :) There are a few fancy ones in town, especially around the international conference centre (CTICC), but they're so uppity I can't stand them. Don't think they're value for money either, the CTICC isn't. My favourite fancy hotel is in Newlands, walking

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Bernelle Verster
Hi Gunnar On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: Hi Bernelle, That is correct. People tend to not want to take any form of public transport after dark in South Africa. Students usually drive here or share private taxis back. This brings another questions:

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi, On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 03:46:42PM +0200, Bernelle Verster wrote: [...] I am wondering if we should also consider trying to get a deal with rental car companies, and doing some sort of 'internal Uber', where the people who really want to, can rent a car as long as they offer trips to

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Bernelle Verster
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 4:16 PM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org wrote: also sprach Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ti...@debian.org [2015-01-27 15:05 +0100]: That sounds a good idea. Interested people would definitely be able to organize shifts in the wikipage once we have some cars available.

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ti...@debian.org [2015-01-27 15:05 +0100]: That sounds a good idea. Interested people would definitely be able to organize shifts in the wikipage once we have some cars available. This has happened with private attendees cars in the past. I am afraid no global

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 03:16:11PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ti...@debian.org [2015-01-27 15:05 +0100]: That sounds a good idea. Interested people would definitely be able to organize shifts in the wikipage once we have some cars available. This has

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Martín Ferrari
Bernelle, On 27/01/15 11:01, Bernelle Verster wrote: Right, but I worry more about the daily trips that attendees will make. It would be silly to stay in town and commute daily to the debconf venue, in my opinion... We are only considering venues with very close accommodation. I did

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ti...@debian.org [2015-01-27 15:26 +0100]: Hmm, right. Or maybe having some generous local car owners who would be comfortable sharing theirs :) Or an affordable deal with the student-run shuttle service and some rules around it. We all know how ATM works ;) --

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martín Ferrari tin...@debian.org [2015-01-27 11:53 +0100]: We did obtain quotes for 'dinner shuttles' - 14 seater buses to be used ad hoc, see https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16/Bids/Cape_Town/Potential_Venues#Transport_jottings Right, but I worry more about the daily

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Martín Ferrari
Bernelle, On 27/01/15 10:38, Bernelle Verster wrote: That is correct. People tend to not want to take any form of public transport after dark in South Africa. Students usually drive here or share private taxis back. Do you know how much would be the cost of a taxi at night to get from

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Martín Ferrari
Hi Bernelle, On 26/01/15 17:38, Bernelle Verster wrote: https://www.uct.ac.za/students/services/jammie/maps/vac/ The one to town is to the Hiddingh campus. This is currently the holiday schedule until 31 January so gives you a good idea of off peak times. If I read correctly, this means

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Bernelle Verster
Hi Richard That is correct. People tend to not want to take any form of public transport after dark in South Africa. Students usually drive here or share private taxis back. We did obtain quotes for 'dinner shuttles' - 14 seater buses to be used ad hoc, see

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Bernelle Verster
Martin, On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Martín Ferrari tin...@debian.org wrote: Bernelle, On 27/01/15 10:38, Bernelle Verster wrote: That is correct. People tend to not want to take any form of public transport after dark in South Africa. Students usually drive here or share private

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Martín (2015.01.27_17:14:51_+0200) I meant that many people like to go exploring after the talks are over, maybe to sample the local beer production, or to have dinner in a nice restaurant, etc. There are many options in town, but as Bernelle said, also scattered all over the rest of the

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hi Bernelle, That is correct. People tend to not want to take any form of public transport after dark in South Africa. Students usually drive here or share private taxis back. This brings another questions: If walking after dark is dangerous, and people don't take public transport either

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hi again, Bernelle :) We did obtain quotes for 'dinner shuttles' - 14 seater buses to be used ad hoc, see https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16/Bids/Cape_Town/Potential_Venues#Transport_jottings Right, but I worry more about the daily trips that attendees will make. It would

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-27 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Gunnar (2015.01.27_15:28:26_+0200) This brings another questions: If walking after dark is dangerous, and people don't take public transport either after dark, how safe are taxis? For context: Many people in my country (Mexico) rely on having the phone number of a known taxi base, as they

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-26 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Stefano Rivera stefa...@debian.org wrote: This is not yet known. They do usually run on a reduced schedule during holidays, though. Can you document this schedule? Richard ___ Debconf-team mailing list

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-26 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Bernelle Verster bernel...@gmail.com wrote: The Jammie shuttle person was very positive in his reply and requested a meeting, but I didn't want to schedule a meeting before the bid decision. Understandable, but getting to/from UCT Upper Campus to the city is a

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-26 Thread Bernelle Verster
Hi https://www.uct.ac.za/students/services/jammie/maps/vac/ The one to town is to the Hiddingh campus. This is currently the holiday schedule until 31 January so gives you a good idea of off peak times. Stefano, I'm busy with a big deadline. Could you please archive these times if necessary, as

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-25 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Richard (2015.01.18_02:13:13_+0200) Will the Jammie buses run while we are on site? If not, could we rent those when need be? This is not yet known. They do usually run on a reduced schedule during holidays, though. SR -- Stefano Rivera http://tumbleweed.org.za/ +1 415 683 3272

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-25 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Margarita (2015.01.17_19:52:09_+0200) So, instead of this piece of unhelpful information, I'd like to request that you add information as to how to get to and from the venue, both for the airport and for going into the city center. The bus sentence has been removed, and the public transport

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-25 Thread Bernelle Verster
Hi The Jammie shuttle person was very positive in his reply and requested a meeting, but I didn't want to schedule a meeting before the bid decision. It works in our favour that we don't need exclusive use of the Jammies, so I expect we would be able to run on term time schedule for possibly a

[Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-17 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi, For the UCT venue (the first choice venue) the current location information says: Venue is about 7 minutes from the city centre, by car (no traffic). 45 minutes walk to the nearest bus stop. The venue is free, so budget for nightly chartered bus is reasonable 45 minutes to the bus stop is

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-17 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Margarita (2015.01.17_19:52:09_+0200) For the UCT venue (the first choice venue) the current location information says: Venue is about 7 minutes from the city centre, by car (no traffic). 45 minutes walk to the nearest bus stop. The venue is free, so budget for nightly chartered bus is

Re: [Debconf-team] Question to Cape Town team: transportation to/from the venue

2015-01-17 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com wrote: Venue is about 7 minutes from the city centre, by car (no traffic). 45 minutes walk to the nearest bus stop. The venue is free, so budget for nightly chartered bus is reasonable Will the Jammie buses run while