Re: Establish DebConf2018 Facebook page

[Louis-Philippe Véronneau]

On 2018-02-07 03:58, Daniel Lange wrote:
> Am 07.02.2018 um 04:42 schrieb 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson:
>> As we know, Facebook's penetration in Taiwan is the highest in the word.
>> Therefore without a
>> https://www.facebook.com/DebConf18 , or better yet
>> https://www.facebook.com/DebConf2018 Facebook page,
> 
> If Debian would start to favor proprietary software, platforms or
> services we would not be Debian anymore. Our community knows where to
> find us and we don't target random people on Facebook. There are Linux
> outreach events that do this and may have to find the needy where they
> gather. We have dedicated outreach to enlarge the community but this is
> (and needs to be) more selective than a Facebook page with a "computer
> problems fixed for free" banner.
> 
> Remember, we don't even charge an entrance fee. We do not want as many
> people as possible. We want the right people. Not following email lists,
> IRC or the Linux / FLOSS press but needing Facebook to find out about
> DebConf is probably a counter-indication to the people we look for.
> 
> The same is (somewhat) true for sponsors. Here more noise would help
> them (and that's - I guess - why we have some (semi- to unofficial)
> Twitter accounts) but it's a fine line to walk and we have a team
> dedicated to this difficult task of communicating Debian-style (i.e.
> adhering to the Debian principles and still reaching target audiences).
> 

+1

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Re: DebConf18 meeting minutes @FOSDEM2018

[陳昌倬]

On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:01:06AM +0100, Hector Oron wrote:
>- [**URGENT: paulliu, czchen**]
>  Find food (breakfast/lunch/dinner) and accomodation costs guesstimates to
>  get pricing in the online registration forms.

Guesstimate for food based on personal experience are:

breakfast: 2 USD
lunch: 4 USD
dinner: 4 USD


to all local team members, please help to update this price.

> 2. Accomodation (global: TBD, local: czchen)
>- Take pictures of the rooms
>- Options for sharing couples (shared rooms)
>- Family options (couple + kids)
>- Hotel options
>- Accessibility documentation

We can get picture from NCTU division of housing services [0].

[0] http://housing.sa.nctu.edu.tw/?page_id=1088=en

For accessibility, we shall reserve floor one for it, and I think mwei
has pictures for accessibility in dorm?

> 
> 5. Typhoon plan (local: czchen)
>- Need to make sure venue still running if national holiday is declared
>  (by contract)

Will check it, but I think venue will be closed if it is typhoon day.

If there is a typhoon in Hsinchu, it will be a very strong typhoon
because Hsinchu tends to be the last region to declare typhoon day. We
shall not go out.

>- Need to plan indoor alternative activities
>  - karaoke
>  - running bar drinks
>  - food supply
>  - internet game (steam?)

We probable can do these in accomodation.


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Re: Present single conference numbering scheme to the public

[Holger Levsen]

On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 09:43:18PM +, Allison Randal wrote:
> Hmmm... well, if we had a time machine, we could go back and make sure
> the 1st DebConf was in 2001, so that the 18th DebConf could be in 2018.

no no no, the 0th DebConf was in 2000 and now in 2018 it's the 18th
DebConf! We start counting at zero, don't we? ;)

> But, the 1st DebConf was in 2000, and that's not going to change.

see above :)

> The website doesn't have to mention that this year is the 19th DebConf,
> it's not a terribly important piece of information. But, I hope that
> we'll make a big deal of the 20th DebConf in 2019, that's a notable
> anniversary.

that indeed we should do, the question is just when ;)


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DebConf18 meeting minutes @FOSDEM2018

[Hector Oron]

Dear DebConf team members,

  During FOSDEM 2018, some of us gather and discuss DebConf18, I have
put some notes together, please feel free to edit them as you see fit.

  Source: https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/debconf_fosdem2018



= FOSDEM 2018 meeting =

Attendees: Nattie, Stefano, Nicoo, Andrew Lee, Héctor Orón, Kyle (paddatrapper)

== Context ==

Very informal meeting in real life happened during 2018, item topics in agenda:
0-6 were discussed among participats,
7-final were discussed between Héctor and Andrew over dinner time, as sadly we
run out of time, and we were kindly kicked out from FOSDEM, so they could
close the venue.

== Disclaimer ==

Please take them as a guideline, but few actions are to be taken, and few
areas have ownership assigned. Please let me know either if you can take on it
or not. Also if you feel like you have no time or the task is difficult for
you, please also let me now ASAP.

As the email might be quite long, I have assigned ownership in agenda items,
if you are listed, be sure to read such entry.

== Agenda ==

0. Video team support (global: paddatrapper, stefano; local: Mwei)
1. Registration (global: stefano, local:  MWei)
2. Accomodation (global: TBD, local: czchen)
3. Food/Vegan options (global: Nattie, local: Dan Jacobson)
5. Typhoon plan (local: czchen)
6. Open Day (global: Nicoo, local: Héctor, SZLin, AndrewLee)
7. Publicity/Press (global: larjona, local: SZLin)
8. FOSSASIA 2018 to promote DebConf18 (D.Pocock, Mario, Hong Phuc,
Héctor, Andrew Lee)
9. DebCamp (Paul Liu, czchen)
10. Social
10.1 C (AndrewLee)
10.2 Key signing (anibal?)
10.3 Free Beer tasting night (AndrewLee)
10.5 Running bar drinks in Hacklab (AndrewLee)
10.6 Merchandising (Mwei)
11. Day Trip (local: TBD, supporters: Dan Jacobson, Steven Shiau)
12. Advice for presenters (TBD)
15. Final report (local: mwei, czchen, paulliu, szlin, ...)
16. Front desk (global: Nattie)
17. Infrastructure (NOC) (local: czchen)
18. FAQ (local: TBD)
19. Visa (local: TBD)
20. Welcome page (szlin, delib?)
21. Fun & free time (Dan Jacobson?)
22. Travel coordination (?)
23. Catering and food (szlin, mwei, andrew)
24. Accomodation (czchen)
25. Wiki content documentation
26. Childcare
27. Job fair (czchen)

== Meeting Minutes ==

0. Video team support (global: paddatrapper, stefano; local: Mwei)
  - paddatrapper is going to do checklist of items video team needs
to be passed to local team member to work on it.
  - budget in shipping video hardware to Taiwan.
  - take presentation room pictures
- we need to know where is electrical power plugs (take a pic)
- we need to know audio/video (A/V) room setup (take a pic)
  - 10TB storage for videos (10 Gbps link)
  - Server for encoding (>= 24 cores, VM ok)
  - Each room should have:
- Computer that allow 2 PCIe cards:
  - 1 TB storage
  - CPU >= i5 (< 4 years old)
- Machine for capturing speaker presentation
  - it could be a little device (minnowboard, intel NUC, etc.)
- Video team to access talk rooms 3 or 4 days before DebConf
starts (during DebCamp is OK)
- Very early talk to university networking admins, we need:
  - Own DebConf ESSID
  - NAT/DNS/Public IP block (video streams), (/28 should be fine)
  - Attendee network
  - Videoteam network, connected to:
  - each presentation room
  - NOC (video HQ)
  - server room
  (setup was documented for dc16 somewhere)

1. Registration (global: stefano, local: paulliu, czchen)
   - Registration to be opened during SnowCamp (dates)
   - Get site online (pending on DSA ticket, already done)
   - Collect money for paid attendees
 - Use Paypal SPI (USD), Paypal Debian France (EUR)
   - [**URGENT: paulliu, czchen**]
 Find food (breakfast/lunch/dinner) and accomodation costs guesstimates to
 get pricing in the online registration forms.

2. Accomodation (global: TBD, local: czchen)
   - Take pictures of the rooms
   - Options for sharing couples (shared rooms)
   - Family options (couple + kids)
   - Hotel options
   - Accessibility documentation

3. Food/Vegan options (global: Nattie, local: Dan Jacobson)
   - Get Nattie and Dan in contact so they can discuss further

5. Typhoon plan (local: czchen)
   - Need to make sure venue still running if national holiday is declared
 (by contract)
   - Need to plan indoor alternative activities
 - karaoke
 - running bar drinks
 - food supply
 - internet game (steam?)
   - In case of typhoon might not be safe to go from accomodation to venue
 We could prepare computer games? Streaming on the dorms? Ideas?
   - See https://lists.debian.org/debconf-team/2018/02/msg6.html

6. Open Day (global: Nicoo, local: Héctor, SZLin, AndrewLee)
   - Invite local English and/or Mandarin speakers (from all over Asia)
   - Add item in the budget for speaker sponsorship
   - CfP already in salsa.d.o (add Open Day blurb
https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-team/dc18.dc.o/issues/10 )
   - 

Re: Present single conference numbering scheme to the public

[Allison Randal]

On 02/07/2018 09:22 PM, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote:
> 
> Anyway, "let's get with the program" please. At least by 2019.

Hmmm... well, if we had a time machine, we could go back and make sure
the 1st DebConf was in 2001, so that the 18th DebConf could be in 2018.
But, the 1st DebConf was in 2000, and that's not going to change.

The website doesn't have to mention that this year is the 19th DebConf,
it's not a terribly important piece of information. But, I hope that
we'll make a big deal of the 20th DebConf in 2019, that's a notable
anniversary.

Allison

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Re: Establish DebConf2018 Facebook page

[積丹尼 Dan Jacobson]

Ah, found it!
https://www.facebook.com/debconf.org/ .

Be sure
https://debconf18.debconf.org/ and
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18 link back to it...

Re: Present single conference numbering scheme to the public

[積丹尼 Dan Jacobson]

Have a look at how
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimania
does it.

Even here 15 means 2015:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_15_Mexico_logo.svg

And
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COSCUP#External_links
is probably representative of the rest of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free-software_events

Anyway, "let's get with the program" please. At least by 2019.

Re: debian single sign-on, alioth certificate creation or/and move to salsa ?

[shirish शिरीष]

at bottom :-

On 07/02/2018, Alexander Wirt  wrote:



> There aren't any yet. I created a gsoc project for replacing/enhancing the
> current sso solution. Unless someone comes up with anything, the guest
> backend for ssl will die.
>
> Alex
>

My bad, just looked up now
https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2018/Projects/NewDebianSSO

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Re: debian single sign-on, alioth certificate creation or/and move to salsa ?

[Alexander Wirt]

On Wed, 07 Feb 2018, shirish शिरीष wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I just discovered the call to proposals have been announced. While I
> did make a new certificate manually on alioth as the old one was about
> to be expired.
> 
> I did see and have also made an account on salsa.debian.org but
> haven't been able to discover if semi-automated certification is also
> on salsa cards or not.
> 
> I do see that salsa/gitlab has provision to add ssh and gpg keys in
> account preferences but nothing about certificate creation.
> 
> https://salsa.debian.org/profile/preferences
> 
> 
> 
> https://sso.debian.org/
> 
> still points to alioth.debian.org for certification which works for
> now. Are there plans to keep alioth for SSO for this debconf cycle or
> are the certificates going to moved on to salsa sooner than later.
> 
> It is possible there is a roadmap somewhere I just don't know about
> it. I did see and notice the migration of lists from alioth to
> lists.debian.org .
> 
> Look forward to having some understanding about it.
> 
> I did look at 
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/alioth-staff-replacement/Week-of-Mon-20180101/000110.html
> which tells some of the steps being undertaken but no comment on the
> SSO service. Maybe it will happen 2, 2.5 years down the line.
> 
> Can somebody who knows tell us what if any plans are there for the SSO 
> service ?
There aren't any yet. I created a gsoc project for replacing/enhancing the
current sso solution. Unless someone comes up with anything, the guest
backend for ssl will die. 

Alex
 

debian single sign-on, alioth certificate creation or/and move to salsa ?

[shirish शिरीष]

Dear all,

I just discovered the call to proposals have been announced. While I
did make a new certificate manually on alioth as the old one was about
to be expired.

I did see and have also made an account on salsa.debian.org but
haven't been able to discover if semi-automated certification is also
on salsa cards or not.

I do see that salsa/gitlab has provision to add ssh and gpg keys in
account preferences but nothing about certificate creation.

https://salsa.debian.org/profile/preferences



https://sso.debian.org/

still points to alioth.debian.org for certification which works for
now. Are there plans to keep alioth for SSO for this debconf cycle or
are the certificates going to moved on to salsa sooner than later.

It is possible there is a roadmap somewhere I just don't know about
it. I did see and notice the migration of lists from alioth to
lists.debian.org .

Look forward to having some understanding about it.

I did look at 
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/alioth-staff-replacement/Week-of-Mon-20180101/000110.html
which tells some of the steps being undertaken but no comment on the
SSO service. Maybe it will happen 2, 2.5 years down the line.

Can somebody who knows tell us what if any plans are there for the SSO service ?

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Re: Establish DebConf2018 Facebook page

[Daniel Lange]

Am 07.02.2018 um 04:42 schrieb 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson:
> As we know, Facebook's penetration in Taiwan is the highest in the word.
> Therefore without a
> https://www.facebook.com/DebConf18 , or better yet
> https://www.facebook.com/DebConf2018 Facebook page,

If Debian would start to favor proprietary software, platforms or
services we would not be Debian anymore. Our community knows where to
find us and we don't target random people on Facebook. There are Linux
outreach events that do this and may have to find the needy where they
gather. We have dedicated outreach to enlarge the community but this is
(and needs to be) more selective than a Facebook page with a "computer
problems fixed for free" banner.

Remember, we don't even charge an entrance fee. We do not want as many
people as possible. We want the right people. Not following email lists,
IRC or the Linux / FLOSS press but needing Facebook to find out about
DebConf is probably a counter-indication to the people we look for.

The same is (somewhat) true for sponsors. Here more noise would help
them (and that's - I guess - why we have some (semi- to unofficial)
Twitter accounts) but it's a fine line to walk and we have a team
dedicated to this difficult task of communicating Debian-style (i.e.
adhering to the Debian principles and still reaching target audiences).

Re: Establish DebConf2018 Facebook page

[shirish शिरीष]

at bottom :-

On 07/02/2018, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson  wrote:
> As we know, Facebook's penetration in Taiwan is the highest in the word.
> Therefore without a
> https://www.facebook.com/DebConf18 , or better yet
> https://www.facebook.com/DebConf2018 Facebook page,
> (in addition to https://debconf18.debconf.org/ )
> well, people (and businesses that we are trying to cooperate with)
> just won't think we're for real.
>

Dear all,

I am ok with posting content on the facebook page but need somebody
who has an eye for design to make the fb page (should be attractive) .

Some ideas for the page are easy -

a. Debconf 18 logo (do we have the logo in svg as the one on
debconf18.debconf.org looks quite small).
b. When, where and dates
c. Sponsors with sponsor labels and backlinks to their own fb pages
(if there are)
d. Maybe a link to meettaiwan page as well
e. News as and when things evolve - A tentative dates for cfp (call
for proposals) perhaps and events beyond that.
f. An FAQ - somethings which we could use from couple of years ago and
add to it.

I am willing to make a page but it would be like a 5 year old has done
it. I would recommend having somebody from either design or UX to do
it. But if people want somebody to initiate the page, I'm willing to
it provided I'm given the go-ahead and have some support as haven't
done anything like this. The time overheads itself would probably be
nightmare (i.e. if it does generate some interest. )

One major concern though is from what little I remember, shared logins
were lost/barred couple of years ago. So if more than one people wants
to work on the page, the only option is business.facebook.com

I dunno if we want to go down that path.

Also we would have to consider as a community facebook terms and
conditions as well.

The only way I see it would be to have a group of people who would be
willing to support and improve the page. One idea which might be
workable or not is to have the debian (CC-by-SA 3.0 unported) logo as
a transparent background throughout the page.

There is also some sort of search functionality that would need to be
on the page

There are also facebook's terms and conditions, how do we work with that ?

https://www.facebook.com/page_guidelines.php along with others and
what would it mean for our own take on centralized social media
constructs.

One other idea is to have a minimal page with the content above and
give a prominent link to diaspora pod or some other social media site
with whom the community is more ok with.

Thoughts, ideas and feedback welcome.

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