Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-11 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Am 11.02.2018 um 00:48 schrieb Michael Schmitz: Hello Adrian, The console keyboard map is for american layout: @ is on shift-2, ~ is on shift-~, | is on shift-#, [ is on ü, ] is on + (curly brackets on shift with same keys) with my german layout keyboard. No idea why I used the american layou

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-11 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Am 11.02.2018 um 00:31 schrieb Michael Schmitz: Hello Adrian, While looking at the kernel output at boot i saw that my Network card is indeed supported (i thought it wasn't until 2 days ago!). It only needed the MAC address to be set manually, then the eth0 came up. This is more a firmwar b

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread Michael Schmitz
Hello Adrian, >> The console keyboard map is for american layout: @ is on shift-2, ~ is >> on shift-~, | is on shift-#, [ is on ü, ] is on + (curly brackets on >> shift with same keys) with my german layout keyboard. No idea why I used >> the american layout, I'm sure I had taken down the german r

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread Michael Schmitz
Hello Adrian, > >> While looking at the kernel output at boot i saw that my Network card >> is indeed supported (i thought it wasn't until 2 days ago!). It only >> needed the MAC address to be set manually, then the eth0 came up. >> This is more a firmwar bug of the "EtherNAT" network card that h

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread Michael Schmitz
Hello Stefan, Am 11.02.2018 um 01:07 schrieb Stefan Niestegge: > Hello Michael, > > > Am 10.02.2018 um 03:01 schrieb Michael Schmitz: >> Hello Stefan, >> >> what's wrong with the old falcon IDE driver? pata_falcon should not be >> necessary, and may even be detrimental to performance (it doesn'

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/11/2018 12:15 AM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: > Yes, we had it running. But we used fvwm. This time, when the installer > asked me, i choosed LXDE. Probably this does not support 8-bit colors? I don't think the choice of window manager should make any difference here. We actually saw a crash as

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Geert! On 02/10/2018 07:41 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > 8 bpp short work on Atari. There was apparently a crash which can be seen from the backtrace in the Xorg.log file. Possibly a regression? > How old is Debian's Xorg? The machine has been installed with Debian unstable, so the Xorg ve

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Am 10.02.2018 um 15:57 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: On 02/10/2018 01:51 AM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: since someone on #atari-home IRC asked me how Debian would work these days, i gave the new Netinstaller Adrian released another try. Please invite anyone interested to Debian on m68k or

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, On 02/10/2018 02:07 PM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: Am 10.02.2018 um 03:01 schrieb Michael Schmitz: [...] xserver needs support for the Atari pixel format (interleaved planes). Shouldn't be too hard to do, but Xorg code probably isn't for the faint of heart (I've certainly had enough to last m

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 1:51 AM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: >> -xserver crashes >> >> I'd need help with that. I'll append the dmesg.txt and xorg.log files. >> Let me know if you want more logfiles or remote access. > >> (II) FBDEV(0): Cre

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Stefan, On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 1:51 AM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: > -xserver crashes > > I'd need help with that. I'll append the dmesg.txt and xorg.log files. > Let me know if you want more logfiles or remote access. > (II) FBDEV(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section >

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/10/2018 01:07 PM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: > Probably nothing wrong with it, but with the kernel from the netinstall > iso no IDE was detected at all. A module was needed to be loaded and > pata_falcon was tried at first, and was successful. After the installer > installed to /dev/sda3 it made

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/10/2018 03:01 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote: > what's wrong with the old falcon IDE driver? pata_falcon should not be > necessary, and may even be detrimental to performance (it doesn't use > interrupts, rather it polls for completion of ATA commands). Well, the pata drivers are the modern drive

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/10/2018 01:51 AM, Stefan Niestegge wrote: > since someone on #atari-home IRC asked me how Debian would work these days, i > gave the new Netinstaller Adrian released another try. Please invite anyone interested to Debian on m68k or other exotic architectures to the #debian-68k and #debian-p

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Am 10.02.2018 um 03:01 schrieb Michael Schmitz: xserver needs support for the Atari pixel format (interleaved planes). Shouldn't be too hard to do, but Xorg code probably isn't for the faint of heart (I've certainly had enough to last me a lifetime). video=atafb:keep (and choose 320x200 16

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-10 Thread Stefan Niestegge
Hello Michael, Am 10.02.2018 um 03:01 schrieb Michael Schmitz: Hello Stefan, what's wrong with the old falcon IDE driver? pata_falcon should not be necessary, and may even be detrimental to performance (it doesn't use interrupts, rather it polls for completion of ATA commands). Probably noth

Re: Trying the netinstall again on Atari Falcon

2018-02-09 Thread Michael Schmitz
Hello Stefan, what's wrong with the old falcon IDE driver? pata_falcon should not be necessary, and may even be detrimental to performance (it doesn't use interrupts, rather it polls for completion of ATA commands). The EtherNAT will remember the MAC address across reboots, but some hack to set a