Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

[K0LNY]

Well that was from running the program
tasksel
Not choices from the installer.
So after it's installed, run 
tasksel.
You can probably arrow to them, I don't know about that, but in an SSH session, 
they didn't read correctly with regard to their choice numbers.

Glenn

  - Original Message - 
  From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
  To: K0LNY 
  Cc: Geoff Shang ; debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 11:21 PM
  Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and 
screen reader


  Glenn,


  I just installed in a Virtual environment using the Latest Debian Net Install 
iso.


  Nothing said "something else".


  These were the choices.


  1) Debian desktop environment,(*)
  2) ... GNOME,
  3) ... xfce,
  4) ... GNOME Flashback,
  5) ... KDE Plasma,
  6) ... Cinnamon,
  7) ... MATE,   (*)
  8) ... LXDE,
  9) ... LXQt,
  10) ... web server,
  11) ... ssh server,
  12) ... standard system utilities,(*)


  1, 7 and 12 will be installed as default if you do nothing.


  I just did another install just selecting 12 but I didn't have Internet, I 
probably could use those commands someone gave us, but without Internet to 
access my email and see what those commands are, I'm up a dry creek without a 
paddle.


  nmcli and nmtui need to be installed with standard system utilities #12.


  Regards,
  David


  On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 8:07 PM K0LNY  wrote:

David,
It said a choice was called:
"something else".
Glenn
  - Original Message - 
  From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
  To: K0LNY 
  Cc: Geoff Shang ; debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 11:01 PM
  Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and 
screen reader


  What was the "something else"?  I don't know, and I can't tell you unless 
you tell me.


  This page says you will have choices, but doesn't list the choices:
  6.3. Using Individual Components (debian.org)



  It does say that right at package selection you have a working Debian 
system.


  The Package Selection part says this helpful thing.


  The “Desktop environment” task will install a graphical desktop 
environment.

  The instructions referenced above with the link says the default 
graphical desktop environment is GNOME but I've found that it installs MATE.


  I cannot find anywhere where it tells me where the Package Selections 
are, so I made a vmware installation of the latest Debian Net Install.


  1) Debian desktop environment,(*)
  2) ... GNOME,
  3) ... xfce,
  4) ... GNOME Flashback,
  5) ... KDE Plasma,
  6) ... Cinnamon,
  7) ... MATE,   (*)
  8) ... LXDE,
  9) ... LXQt,
  10) ... web server,
  11) ... ssh server,
  12) ... standard system utilities,(*)


  1, 7 and 12 will be installed as default if you do nothing.


  So for a CLI system, I'm going to just install 12, standard system 
utilities.


  But first since I already have a virtual system, I am going to install 
the Default:
  1) Debian desktop environment,   7) ... MATE, and 12) ... standard system 
utilities.



  The system comes up in MATE with MATE programs, no GNOME as the Debian 
pages https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst said.


  I deleted the Virtual Debian installation and reinstalled just picking 
#12, standard system utilities.


  This time I had no networking like I had with the Default installation, 
1, 7, and 12.


  Also the programs nmcli and nmtui both were not available, so I have no 
way to access the Internet.


  It might be my Virtual Box settings, I've had to play around with them 
before to get connectivity, but the default settings would not allow me to ping 
google.com.


  So it looks like you'll still need to either install a GUI then purge the 
GUI programs for MATE or connect to Ethernet or use the difficult for me to 
remember console commands to connect.  My notebook only has WiFi..


  Regards,
  David


















  On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:47 PM K0LNY  wrote:

David,
The way the menus were laid out over SSH, it sounded like #13 was
something else
But I wasn't sure if it was stating that this was #13, but all the 
other choices were desktop environments, which I knew I didn't want.
Glenn
  - Original Message - 
  From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
  To: K0LNY 
  Cc: Geoff Shang ; debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 1:46 PM
  Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking 
and screen reader


  Glenn, 


  You didn't say what choice #13 is.


  Just select nothing at all.


  Then get smxi and install your console browsers and utilities.


  SMXI always is at http://smxi.org/smxi.zip.


  Download and 

Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

Glenn,

I just installed in a Virtual environment using the Latest Debian Net
Install iso.

Nothing said "something else".

These were the choices.

1) Debian desktop environment,(*)
2) ... GNOME,
3) ... xfce,
4) ... GNOME Flashback,
5) ... KDE Plasma,
6) ... Cinnamon,
7) ... MATE,   (*)
8) ... LXDE,
9) ... LXQt,
10) ... web server,
11) ... ssh server,
12) ... standard system utilities,(*)

1, 7 and 12 will be installed as default if you do nothing.

I just did another install just selecting 12 but I didn't have Internet, I
probably could use those commands someone gave us, but without Internet to
access my email and see what those commands are, I'm up a dry creek without
a paddle.

nmcli and nmtui need to be installed with standard system utilities #12.

Regards,
David

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 8:07 PM K0LNY  wrote:

> David,
> It said a choice was called:
> "something else".
> Glenn
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
> *To:* K0LNY 
> *Cc:* Geoff Shang  ;
> debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2023 11:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and
> screen reader
>
> What was the "something else"?  I don't know, and I can't tell you unless
> you tell me.
>
> This page says you will have choices, but doesn't list the choices:
> 6.3. Using Individual Components (debian.org)
> 
>
> It does say that right at package selection you have a working Debian
> system.
>
> The Package Selection part says this helpful thing.
>
> The “Desktop environment” task will install a graphical desktop
> environment.
> The instructions referenced above with the link says the default graphical
> desktop environment is GNOME but I've found that it installs MATE.
>
> I cannot find anywhere where it tells me where the Package Selections are,
> so I made a vmware installation of the latest Debian Net Install.
>
> 1) Debian desktop environment,(*)
> 2) ... GNOME,
> 3) ... xfce,
> 4) ... GNOME Flashback,
> 5) ... KDE Plasma,
> 6) ... Cinnamon,
> 7) ... MATE,   (*)
> 8) ... LXDE,
> 9) ... LXQt,
> 10) ... web server,
> 11) ... ssh server,
> 12) ... standard system utilities,(*)
>
> 1, 7 and 12 will be installed as default if you do nothing.
>
> So for a CLI system, I'm going to just install 12, standard system
> utilities.
>
> But first since I already have a virtual system, I am going to install the
> Default:
> 1) Debian desktop environment,   7) ... MATE, and 12) ... standard system
> utilities.
>
> The system comes up in MATE with MATE programs, no GNOME as the Debian
> pages https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst said.
>
> I deleted the Virtual Debian installation and reinstalled just picking
> #12, standard system utilities.
>
> This time I had no networking like I had with the Default installation, 1,
> 7, and 12.
>
> Also the programs nmcli and nmtui both were not available, so I have no
> way to access the Internet.
>
> It might be my Virtual Box settings, I've had to play around with them
> before to get connectivity, but the default settings would not allow me to
> ping google.com.
>
> So it looks like you'll still need to either install a GUI then purge the
> GUI programs for MATE or connect to Ethernet or use the difficult for me to
> remember console commands to connect.  My notebook only has WiFi..
>
> Regards,
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:47 PM K0LNY  wrote:
>
>> David,
>> The way the menus were laid out over SSH, it sounded like #13 was
>> something else
>> But I wasn't sure if it was stating that this was #13, but all the other
>> choices were desktop environments, which I knew I didn't want.
>> Glenn
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
>> *To:* K0LNY 
>> *Cc:* Geoff Shang  ;
>> debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2023 1:46 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking
>> and screen reader
>>
>> Glenn,
>>
>> You didn't say what choice #13 is.
>>
>> Just select nothing at all.
>>
>> Then get smxi and install your console browsers and utilities.
>>
>> SMXI always is at http://smxi.org/smxi.zip.
>>
>> Download and unzip and the file you want to run is "smxi". So chmod +x
>> that file and run it using root from the directory you downloaded it to by
>> using ./smxi the smxi script will move itself where it belongs.
>>
>> Run smxi as root and follow the prompts to update and upgrade then go to
>> Program Install and install Console Browsers,  Console Utilities and Ceni
>> which is an accessible network manager.
>>
>> Then you'll have a functional console system just remember the command
>> for Ceni has a capital "C".  Install nmcli and nntui when you have
>> networking using "apt install nmcli nntui".
>>
>> Does anyone remember the very old text menu for Debian? It allowed users
>> to select programs by description, they were all console 

Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

[K0LNY]

David,
It said a choice was called:
"something else".
Glenn
  - Original Message - 
  From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
  To: K0LNY 
  Cc: Geoff Shang ; debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 11:01 PM
  Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and 
screen reader


  What was the "something else"?  I don't know, and I can't tell you unless you 
tell me.


  This page says you will have choices, but doesn't list the choices:
  6.3. Using Individual Components (debian.org)



  It does say that right at package selection you have a working Debian system.


  The Package Selection part says this helpful thing.


  The “Desktop environment” task will install a graphical desktop environment.

  The instructions referenced above with the link says the default graphical 
desktop environment is GNOME but I've found that it installs MATE.


  I cannot find anywhere where it tells me where the Package Selections are, so 
I made a vmware installation of the latest Debian Net Install.


  1) Debian desktop environment,(*)
  2) ... GNOME,
  3) ... xfce,
  4) ... GNOME Flashback,
  5) ... KDE Plasma,
  6) ... Cinnamon,
  7) ... MATE,   (*)
  8) ... LXDE,
  9) ... LXQt,
  10) ... web server,
  11) ... ssh server,
  12) ... standard system utilities,(*)


  1, 7 and 12 will be installed as default if you do nothing.


  So for a CLI system, I'm going to just install 12, standard system utilities.


  But first since I already have a virtual system, I am going to install the 
Default:
  1) Debian desktop environment,   7) ... MATE, and 12) ... standard system 
utilities.



  The system comes up in MATE with MATE programs, no GNOME as the Debian pages 
https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst said.


  I deleted the Virtual Debian installation and reinstalled just picking #12, 
standard system utilities.


  This time I had no networking like I had with the Default installation, 1, 7, 
and 12.


  Also the programs nmcli and nmtui both were not available, so I have no way 
to access the Internet.


  It might be my Virtual Box settings, I've had to play around with them before 
to get connectivity, but the default settings would not allow me to ping 
google.com.


  So it looks like you'll still need to either install a GUI then purge the GUI 
programs for MATE or connect to Ethernet or use the difficult for me to 
remember console commands to connect.  My notebook only has WiFi..


  Regards,
  David


















  On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:47 PM K0LNY  wrote:

David,
The way the menus were laid out over SSH, it sounded like #13 was
something else
But I wasn't sure if it was stating that this was #13, but all the other 
choices were desktop environments, which I knew I didn't want.
Glenn
  - Original Message - 
  From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
  To: K0LNY 
  Cc: Geoff Shang ; debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 1:46 PM
  Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and 
screen reader


  Glenn, 


  You didn't say what choice #13 is.


  Just select nothing at all.


  Then get smxi and install your console browsers and utilities.


  SMXI always is at http://smxi.org/smxi.zip.


  Download and unzip and the file you want to run is "smxi". So chmod +x 
that file and run it using root from the directory you downloaded it to by 
using ./smxi the smxi script will move itself where it belongs.


  Run smxi as root and follow the prompts to update and upgrade then go to 
Program Install and install Console Browsers,  Console Utilities and Ceni which 
is an accessible network manager.


  Then you'll have a functional console system just remember the command 
for Ceni has a capital "C".  Install nmcli and nntui when you have networking 
using "apt install nmcli nntui".


  Does anyone remember the very old text menu for Debian? It allowed users 
to select programs by description, they were all console interface programs.


  Regards,


  David


  On Tue, May 30, 2023, 12:55 K0LNY  wrote:

Does this install anything CLI only?
I ran it, and the menus via SSH are sketchy, I wanted to select 
"something 
else" and I think it is #13, but I was afraid of doing a desktop 
install, 
because if I accidentally did that, the OMV won't install, and I would 
have 
to start over with my Debian CLI setup.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Shang" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and 
screen reader


> On Tue, 30 May 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>
>> I don't even know what you're talking about.  If I knew what your 
message
>> meant and how to do it, I'd gladly do it, but I don't understand your
>> message, 

Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

What was the "something else"?  I don't know, and I can't tell you unless
you tell me.

This page says you will have choices, but doesn't list the choices:
6.3. Using Individual Components (debian.org)


It does say that right at package selection you have a working Debian
system.

The Package Selection part says this helpful thing.

The “Desktop environment” task will install a graphical desktop environment.
The instructions referenced above with the link says the default graphical
desktop environment is GNOME but I've found that it installs MATE.

I cannot find anywhere where it tells me where the Package Selections are,
so I made a vmware installation of the latest Debian Net Install.

1) Debian desktop environment,(*)
2) ... GNOME,
3) ... xfce,
4) ... GNOME Flashback,
5) ... KDE Plasma,
6) ... Cinnamon,
7) ... MATE,   (*)
8) ... LXDE,
9) ... LXQt,
10) ... web server,
11) ... ssh server,
12) ... standard system utilities,(*)

1, 7 and 12 will be installed as default if you do nothing.

So for a CLI system, I'm going to just install 12, standard system
utilities.

But first since I already have a virtual system, I am going to install the
Default:
1) Debian desktop environment,   7) ... MATE, and 12) ... standard system
utilities.

The system comes up in MATE with MATE programs, no GNOME as the Debian
pages https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst said.

I deleted the Virtual Debian installation and reinstalled just picking #12,
standard system utilities.

This time I had no networking like I had with the Default installation, 1,
7, and 12.

Also the programs nmcli and nmtui both were not available, so I have no way
to access the Internet.

It might be my Virtual Box settings, I've had to play around with them
before to get connectivity, but the default settings would not allow me to
ping google.com.

So it looks like you'll still need to either install a GUI then purge the
GUI programs for MATE or connect to Ethernet or use the difficult for me to
remember console commands to connect.  My notebook only has WiFi..

Regards,
David









On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 3:47 PM K0LNY  wrote:

> David,
> The way the menus were laid out over SSH, it sounded like #13 was
> something else
> But I wasn't sure if it was stating that this was #13, but all the other
> choices were desktop environments, which I knew I didn't want.
> Glenn
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
> *To:* K0LNY 
> *Cc:* Geoff Shang  ;
> debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2023 1:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and
> screen reader
>
> Glenn,
>
> You didn't say what choice #13 is.
>
> Just select nothing at all.
>
> Then get smxi and install your console browsers and utilities.
>
> SMXI always is at http://smxi.org/smxi.zip.
>
> Download and unzip and the file you want to run is "smxi". So chmod +x
> that file and run it using root from the directory you downloaded it to by
> using ./smxi the smxi script will move itself where it belongs.
>
> Run smxi as root and follow the prompts to update and upgrade then go to
> Program Install and install Console Browsers,  Console Utilities and Ceni
> which is an accessible network manager.
>
> Then you'll have a functional console system just remember the command for
> Ceni has a capital "C".  Install nmcli and nntui when you have networking
> using "apt install nmcli nntui".
>
> Does anyone remember the very old text menu for Debian? It allowed users
> to select programs by description, they were all console interface programs.
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2023, 12:55 K0LNY  wrote:
>
>> Does this install anything CLI only?
>> I ran it, and the menus via SSH are sketchy, I wanted to select
>> "something
>> else" and I think it is #13, but I was afraid of doing a desktop install,
>> because if I accidentally did that, the OMV won't install, and I would
>> have
>> to start over with my Debian CLI setup.
>> Glenn
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Geoff Shang" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and
>> screen reader
>>
>>
>> > On Tue, 30 May 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>> >
>> >> I don't even know what you're talking about.  If I knew what your
>> message
>> >> meant and how to do it, I'd gladly do it, but I don't understand your
>> >> message, someone here must.
>> >
>> > In Debian, there is a package called tasksel.  The program that it
>> > provides runs as part of the installation, but you can also presumably
>> run
>> > it at any time.
>> >
>> > This is the part of the installation where you can choose categories of
>> > software which wil be installed.  This is the part where I said that
>> you
>> > can install a text only ssytem but not installing any of the desktop
>> > environments.
>> >
>> > If I run tasksel on my 

Re: speakup configuration settings

[Samuel Thibault]

K0LNY, le mar. 30 mai 2023 18:04:18 -0500, a ecrit:
> But in my Debian 11.7, it seems that there is no speakupconf available.
> Is that right?
> Do I need to install it for it to be there?

$ apt-file search bin/speakupconf
speakup-tools: /usr/bin/speakupconf   

Samuel

speakup configuration settings

[K0LNY]

Hello All,
I was doing some configurations to my speakup on my Ubuntu server and I saved 
my speakup speech settings with 
speakupconf save
But in my Debian 11.7, it seems that there is no speakupconf available.
Is that right?
Do I need to install it for it to be there?
Thanks.

Glenn

Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

[K0LNY]

David,
The way the menus were laid out over SSH, it sounded like #13 was
something else
But I wasn't sure if it was stating that this was #13, but all the other 
choices were desktop environments, which I knew I didn't want.
Glenn
  - Original Message - 
  From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
  To: K0LNY 
  Cc: Geoff Shang ; debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 1:46 PM
  Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and 
screen reader


  Glenn,


  You didn't say what choice #13 is.


  Just select nothing at all.


  Then get smxi and install your console browsers and utilities.


  SMXI always is at http://smxi.org/smxi.zip.


  Download and unzip and the file you want to run is "smxi". So chmod +x that 
file and run it using root from the directory you downloaded it to by using 
./smxi the smxi script will move itself where it belongs.


  Run smxi as root and follow the prompts to update and upgrade then go to 
Program Install and install Console Browsers,  Console Utilities and Ceni which 
is an accessible network manager.


  Then you'll have a functional console system just remember the command for 
Ceni has a capital "C".  Install nmcli and nntui when you have networking using 
"apt install nmcli nntui".


  Does anyone remember the very old text menu for Debian? It allowed users to 
select programs by description, they were all console interface programs.


  Regards,


  David


  On Tue, May 30, 2023, 12:55 K0LNY  wrote:

Does this install anything CLI only?
I ran it, and the menus via SSH are sketchy, I wanted to select "something 
else" and I think it is #13, but I was afraid of doing a desktop install, 
because if I accidentally did that, the OMV won't install, and I would have 
to start over with my Debian CLI setup.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Shang" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and 
screen reader


> On Tue, 30 May 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>
>> I don't even know what you're talking about.  If I knew what your message
>> meant and how to do it, I'd gladly do it, but I don't understand your
>> message, someone here must.
>
> In Debian, there is a package called tasksel.  The program that it 
> provides runs as part of the installation, but you can also presumably 
run 
> it at any time.
>
> This is the part of the installation where you can choose categories of 
> software which wil be installed.  This is the part where I said that you 
> can install a text only ssytem but not installing any of the desktop 
> environments.
>
> If I run tasksel on my installed system, I get the following screen:
>
> Software selection
> --
>
> You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined 
> collections of software.
>
>   1. Debian desktop environment  4. ... GNOME Flashback  7. ... MATE  10. 
> web server
>   2. ... GNOME   5. ... KDE Plasma   8. ... LXDE  11. 
> SSH server
>   3. ... Xfce6. ... Cinnamon 9. ... LXQt  12. 
> laptop
>
> (Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.)
>
> Choose software to install:
>
>
>
> This has changed a bit over time.  You can see in the above list that 
> options 1 through 9 are all GUI-related, with Web Server, SSH Server and 
> Laptop as the remaining ptions.  I know in the past there were things 
like 
> print server.
>
> Anyway, Samuel is suggesting reporting a bug against the tasksel package, 
> requesting that a "textual desktop" option be added and listing which 
> packages that this option should install.
>
> You can use reportbug to do this.
>
> I've not used reportbug in some time so I can't really speak to using it, 
> but it should be installed and I'm guessing there's documentation for it.
>
> HTH,
> Geoff.
> 

Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

[D.J.J. Ring, Jr.]

Glenn,

You didn't say what choice #13 is.

Just select nothing at all.

Then get smxi and install your console browsers and utilities.

SMXI always is at http://smxi.org/smxi.zip.

Download and unzip and the file you want to run is "smxi". So chmod +x that
file and run it using root from the directory you downloaded it to by using
./smxi the smxi script will move itself where it belongs.

Run smxi as root and follow the prompts to update and upgrade then go to
Program Install and install Console Browsers,  Console Utilities and Ceni
which is an accessible network manager.

Then you'll have a functional console system just remember the command for
Ceni has a capital "C".  Install nmcli and nntui when you have networking
using "apt install nmcli nntui".

Does anyone remember the very old text menu for Debian? It allowed users to
select programs by description, they were all console interface programs.

Regards,

David

On Tue, May 30, 2023, 12:55 K0LNY  wrote:

> Does this install anything CLI only?
> I ran it, and the menus via SSH are sketchy, I wanted to select "something
> else" and I think it is #13, but I was afraid of doing a desktop install,
> because if I accidentally did that, the OMV won't install, and I would
> have
> to start over with my Debian CLI setup.
> Glenn
> - Original Message -
> From: "Geoff Shang" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:52 AM
> Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and
> screen reader
>
>
> > On Tue, 30 May 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
> >
> >> I don't even know what you're talking about.  If I knew what your
> message
> >> meant and how to do it, I'd gladly do it, but I don't understand your
> >> message, someone here must.
> >
> > In Debian, there is a package called tasksel.  The program that it
> > provides runs as part of the installation, but you can also presumably
> run
> > it at any time.
> >
> > This is the part of the installation where you can choose categories of
> > software which wil be installed.  This is the part where I said that you
> > can install a text only ssytem but not installing any of the desktop
> > environments.
> >
> > If I run tasksel on my installed system, I get the following screen:
> >
> > Software selection
> > --
> >
> > You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined
> > collections of software.
> >
> >   1. Debian desktop environment  4. ... GNOME Flashback  7. ... MATE
> 10.
> > web server
> >   2. ... GNOME   5. ... KDE Plasma   8. ... LXDE
> 11.
> > SSH server
> >   3. ... Xfce6. ... Cinnamon 9. ... LXQt
> 12.
> > laptop
> >
> > (Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.)
> >
> > Choose software to install:
> >
> >
> >
> > This has changed a bit over time.  You can see in the above list that
> > options 1 through 9 are all GUI-related, with Web Server, SSH Server and
> > Laptop as the remaining ptions.  I know in the past there were things
> like
> > print server.
> >
> > Anyway, Samuel is suggesting reporting a bug against the tasksel
> package,
> > requesting that a "textual desktop" option be added and listing which
> > packages that this option should install.
> >
> > You can use reportbug to do this.
> >
> > I've not used reportbug in some time so I can't really speak to using
> it,
> > but it should be installed and I'm guessing there's documentation for it.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Geoff.
> >
>
>

Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

[K0LNY]

Does this install anything CLI only?
I ran it, and the menus via SSH are sketchy, I wanted to select "something 
else" and I think it is #13, but I was afraid of doing a desktop install, 
because if I accidentally did that, the OMV won't install, and I would have 
to start over with my Debian CLI setup.

Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Geoff Shang" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2023 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and 
screen reader




On Tue, 30 May 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:


I don't even know what you're talking about.  If I knew what your message
meant and how to do it, I'd gladly do it, but I don't understand your
message, someone here must.


In Debian, there is a package called tasksel.  The program that it 
provides runs as part of the installation, but you can also presumably run 
it at any time.


This is the part of the installation where you can choose categories of 
software which wil be installed.  This is the part where I said that you 
can install a text only ssytem but not installing any of the desktop 
environments.


If I run tasksel on my installed system, I get the following screen:

Software selection
--

You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined 
collections of software.


  1. Debian desktop environment  4. ... GNOME Flashback  7. ... MATE  10. 
web server
  2. ... GNOME   5. ... KDE Plasma   8. ... LXDE  11. 
SSH server
  3. ... Xfce6. ... Cinnamon 9. ... LXQt  12. 
laptop


(Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.)

Choose software to install:



This has changed a bit over time.  You can see in the above list that 
options 1 through 9 are all GUI-related, with Web Server, SSH Server and 
Laptop as the remaining ptions.  I know in the past there were things like 
print server.


Anyway, Samuel is suggesting reporting a bug against the tasksel package, 
requesting that a "textual desktop" option be added and listing which 
packages that this option should install.


You can use reportbug to do this.

I've not used reportbug in some time so I can't really speak to using it, 
but it should be installed and I'm guessing there's documentation for it.


HTH,
Geoff.

Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

[Geoff Shang]

On Tue, 30 May 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:


I don't even know what you're talking about.  If I knew what your message
meant and how to do it, I'd gladly do it, but I don't understand your
message, someone here must.


In Debian, there is a package called tasksel.  The program that it 
provides runs as part of the installation, but you can also presumably run 
it at any time.


This is the part of the installation where you can choose categories of 
software which wil be installed.  This is the part where I said that you 
can install a text only ssytem but not installing any of the desktop 
environments.


If I run tasksel on my installed system, I get the following screen:

Software selection
--

You can choose to install one or more of the following predefined 
collections of software.


  1. Debian desktop environment  4. ... GNOME Flashback  7. ... MATE  10. web 
server
  2. ... GNOME   5. ... KDE Plasma   8. ... LXDE  11. SSH 
server
  3. ... Xfce6. ... Cinnamon 9. ... LXQt  12. laptop

(Enter the items or ranges you want to select, separated by spaces.)

Choose software to install:



This has changed a bit over time.  You can see in the above list that 
options 1 through 9 are all GUI-related, with Web Server, SSH Server and 
Laptop as the remaining ptions.  I know in the past there were things like 
print server.


Anyway, Samuel is suggesting reporting a bug against the tasksel package, 
requesting that a "textual desktop" option be added and listing which 
packages that this option should install.


You can use reportbug to do this.

I've not used reportbug in some time so I can't really speak to using it, 
but it should be installed and I'm guessing there's documentation for it.


HTH,
Geoff.