Re: Collecting Wayland issues [Was: default desktop]

2019-02-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le dim. 10 févr. 2019 07:39:17 +0100, a ecrit: > On 2/9/2019 3:16 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Could people raise the issues they have had when trying Wayland? > > How do I go about testing wayland? > Should I tested on Mate or on Gnome? Mate doesn't seem to have

Re: Accessibility of gtk2 applications in Buster

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le sam. 26 janv. 2019 21:22:05 +0100, a ecrit: > Anybody up for the task of finding where session scripts live for > Wayland? It seems that can be in /usr/lib/environment.d according to man environment.d Samuel

Re: default desktop

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le sam. 09 févr. 2019 15:26:52 +0100, a ecrit: > Agree, the point I'm trying to make is that 'Debian desktop environment' > (1 during the install process) should be the most accessible regardless > of which way you install. > > In other words: 'Debian desktop environment' (option 1 at

Collecting Wayland issues [Was: default desktop]

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Could people raise the issues they have had when trying Wayland? Jeremy Bicha, le sam. 09 févr. 2019 08:38:29 -0500, a ecrit: > On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:36 AM Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Ok, then you need to discuss this with the rest of the Debian GNOME > > > team.

Re: default desktop

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeremy Bicha, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 20:05:03 -0500, a ecrit: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:37 PM Samuel Thibault wrote: > > As mentioned earlier in the thread, the default desktop for > > accessibility is already MATE. I'm here talking about the choice of > > default desktop fo

Re: default desktop

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le sam. 09 févr. 2019 09:53:03 +0100, a ecrit: > Something that is confusing is that when installing Debian with the > kernel boot parameter 'DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text', 'Debian desktop > environment' is not the desktop that is "accessible". Well, yes, changing the debconf frontend

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-02-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 21:30:26 -0500, a ecrit: > >>>>> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: > > Samuel> Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 08:04:33 -0500, a > Samuel> ecrit: > >> Orca

Re: default desktop

2019-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeremy Bicha, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:57:30 -0500, a ecrit: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:07 PM Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide > > updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern > &

Re: default desktop

2019-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42 +, a ecrit: > On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 06:07:17PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide > > updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland defau

Re: default desktop

2019-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:39:39 +0100, a ecrit: > What about Orca? > The last time I checked Mate, it wasn't as usable as 'Debian desktop > environment' (Gnome). When was that time? A lot of things happened on the Mate side :) Samuel

Re: default desktop

2019-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in all kinds of places, and nobody is working on fixing them yet. Also,

Re: at-spi2-core

2019-02-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Erich MINDERLEIN, le lun. 04 févr. 2019 20:41:28 +, a ecrit: > Now I have less crashes better response and fast shutdown again within a > few seconds. System runs better. > Is it possible to eliminate the dependency of this Package for the x > applications ? Well, no. If we keep

Re: Debian Installer Buster Alpha 5 release

2019-02-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cyril Brulebois, le sam. 02 févr. 2019 12:45:32 +0100, a ecrit: > * cdebconf: > - Notify gtk-font-set of the zoom factor. For information, this fixes the on-the-fly zoom support triggered by ctrl-+/- Samuel

Re: Full syslog

2019-01-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le lun. 28 janv. 2019 15:58:58 +0100, a ecrit: > Everything is there:  at-spi seems very unhappy with my use of brltty and the > terminal. The problem is that my log is 400MB in 2 hours lol It looks like brltty not managing to consume dbus events fast enough, that's odd.

Re: Talking Debian install?

2019-01-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le dim. 27 janv. 2019 10:03:40 +0100, a ecrit: > Jayson Smith, le dim. 27 janv. 2019 02:21:09 -0500, a ecrit: > > Jan 27 01:43:47 Virgil systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service:12] > > Executable path is not absolute, ignoring: sh -c 'modprobe speakup_s

Re: Talking Debian install?

2019-01-27 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Jayson Smith, le dim. 27 janv. 2019 02:21:09 -0500, a ecrit: > I downloaded a Debian Netinstall image, Which version did you download, exactly? > Jan 27 01:43:47 Virgil systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service:12] > Executable path is not absolute, ignoring: sh -c 'modprobe

Re: Accessibility of gtk2 applications in Buster

2019-01-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Anybody up for the task of finding where session scripts live for Wayland? Samuel Samuel Thibault, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 13:51:39 +0100, a ecrit: > Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 07:49:40 -0500, a ecrit: > > >>>>> "Sam" == Sam Hartman writes:

Re: Gnome settings hangs orca

2019-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 08:04:33 -0500, a ecrit: > Orca announces the settings frame, but fails to interact with it. Does orca announce anything when going around with shortcuts? (on my system it does) > Lots of CPU gets consumed and the system generally hangs until I hit >

Re: Accessibility of gtk2 applications in Buster

2019-01-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 07:49:40 -0500, a ecrit: > >>>>> "Sam" == Sam Hartman writes: > > >>>>> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes: > Samuel> Sam Hartman, le mar. 15 janv. 2019 17:22:16 -0500, a ecrit: > &g

Re: Accessibility of gtk2 applications in Buster

2019-01-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sam Hartman, le mar. 15 janv. 2019 17:22:16 -0500, a ecrit: > GTK_MODULES was not set. But it should be getting set by /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90atk-adaptor Which graphical desktop are you using? Samuel

Re: Accessibility of gtk2 applications in Buster

2019-01-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Sam Hartman, le mar. 15 janv. 2019 16:40:05 -0500, a ecrit: > Is it expected that gtk2 will no longer talk, or is this a bug? It's not expected, I don't have the issue. Do you have the GTK_MODULES environment variable set to gail:atk-bridge? Which desktop environment are you running? To

Re: Using absolute path for ExecStart in espeakup.service

2019-01-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le jeu. 10 janv. 2019 18:09:35 +0100, a ecrit: > According to the below message and to (1, 'execstart=') the command > 'ExecStart' should use a fully qualified path when 'execstop=' is not > specified. > Observed on Debian Stretch. This is fixed in stretch-proposed-updates's

Re: compiz: Migrating to compiz-reloaded?

2018-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello Didier, Didier Spaier, le jeu. 20 déc. 2018 10:21:01 +0100, a ecrit: > FYT, I attach the shortcuts that will be set by default in Slint. Well, I'd say this should be synchronized upstream, so all distributions can benefit from it. Samuel

Re: compiz: Migrating to compiz-reloaded?

2018-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 22 nov. 2018 19:08:37 +0100, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 30 août 2018 17:26:27 +0200, a ecrit: > > The launchpad upstream for compiz has switched to light maintenance mode > > and will not make further development since Ubuntu ha

Re: compiz: Migrating to compiz-reloaded?

2018-11-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 30 août 2018 17:26:27 +0200, a ecrit: > The launchpad upstream for compiz has switched to light maintenance mode > and will not make further development since Ubuntu has stopped using it. > > How do people feel about switching to compiz-reloaded

Re: speakup crashes

2018-11-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le jeu. 20 sept. 2018 22:52:49 +0100, a ecrit: > Debian buster updated on 19th september. > > When switching from desktop to one of the consoles, speech is lost in the > console if orca is speaking at the time of changing to a command line. Just making sure that the

Re: getting orca and espeakup/speakup to work together

2018-11-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jeffery Mewtamer, le lun. 19 nov. 2018 21:49:23 +, a ecrit: > I can't speak for the Debian Testing version of Firefox, but the > versions in Debian Unstable only suggest pulseaudio, Yes, but last time I tried, without pulseaudio sound doesn't work inside firefox. Unless using apulse as you

Re: getting orca and espeakup/speakup to work together

2018-11-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, > On 19/11/2018 21:19, John G Heim wrote: > > What is the trick to getting speakup with software speech and orca to work > > at the same time. I have both debian stretch and ubuntu bionic systems and > > on both machines, I have to disable espeakup to get orca to work. Didier Spaier, le

Brltty 5.6 in jessie-backports-sloppy

2018-11-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, It was asked to have brltty available for Jessie, I have uploaded it to jessie-backports-sloppy. This means that for a Jessie system you now have the choice between the jessie-provided brltty 5.2, the stretch-backported-to-jessie brltty 5.4, and the buster-backported-to-jessie brltty 5.6.

Re: espeak package problem (fwd)

2018-11-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
From: Linux for blind general discussion > I've got a problem with espeakup > I've installed it in debian. > Now I get an error code 5 every time I try to install or remove a package. > can you help me with this thing? > I don't want to reinstall the computer. Just to repeat my answer there:

Re: loss of speech in speakup when switching between console and gui

2018-11-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le mar. 02 oct. 2018 17:04:37 +0100, a ecrit: > I am loosing speech in the console using speakup after switching back from > the desktop. > To reproduce, log in to the desktop and make sure orca is working. > Then switch to one of the text consoles with control alt f4. >

orca 3.31.1 uploaded to experimental

2018-11-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, It's now a bit old, but I have uploaded the 3.31.1 version of orca in Debian experimental, for people to give it a try and be able to report issues upstream without having to install orca master by hand. It should be available on the mirror next to you within half a dozen hours. Samuel

Re: Do not upgrade espeakup to 1:0.80-5+deb9u2!!

2018-11-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
john doe, le dim. 11 nov. 2018 19:47:04 +0100, a ecrit: > On 11/11/2018 6:05 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Why, vms is not an issue here I installed Stretch with Gnome flawlessly > with the option "install with speatch". > Not heavily tested though. > > > I guess

Do not upgrade espeakup to 1:0.80-5+deb9u2!!

2018-11-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, The Debian 9.6 upgrade happened yesterday, and the 1:0.80-5+deb9u2 upgrade became available. Unfortunately it seems it is completely screwed up (see Bug#913453), so don't upgrade to it :/ I'm really sorry about that. In case you already have upgraded, in

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le lun. 05 nov. 2018 22:49:20 +0100, a ecrit: > I do not know, if all three settings are needed  It would require some time > to try it out. Sure, I'm asking if you could do the test, since you are the one who has a system where you can test it :) > I know, that you are very

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le lun. 05 nov. 2018 21:43:06 +0100, a ecrit: > The secret is to add The following lines to to /etc/profile > eval $(dbus-launch); export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID > GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications >

Re: assertion while running Firefox on ARM 64

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le lun. 05 nov. 2018 15:43:27 +0100, a ecrit: > orca:8939): CRITICAL **: atspi_accessible_set_cache_mask: assertion > 'accessible == accessib > le->parent.app->root' failed > May be, that it is caused by The fact, that Irun all apps as root user and > algorithms are not

Re: loss of speech in speakup when switching between console and gui

2018-11-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le dim. 04 nov. 2018 18:46:51 +, a ecrit: > On 04/11/18 18:36, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Keith Barrett, le dim. 04 nov. 2018 18:32:41 +, a ecrit: > > > On 04/11/18 13:48, Didier Spaier wrote: > > > > On 04/11/2

Re: loss of speech in speakup when switching between console and gui

2018-11-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le dim. 04 nov. 2018 18:32:41 +, a ecrit: > On 04/11/18 13:48, Didier Spaier wrote: > > On 04/11/2018 14:37, Keith Barrett wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 03/11/18 19:54, Didier Spaier wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I should have stated that this binary is a 64-bit one. >

Re: Text console speaking - espeakup problem

2018-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le jeu. 01 nov. 2018 21:49:41 -0400, a ecrit: > If anyone has editing privileges for the accessibility debian page, Anybody can edit the wiki page, one just need to register an account. Samuel

Re: Text console speaking - espeakup problem

2018-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le jeu. 01 nov. 2018 21:26:15 -0400, a ecrit: > I can't find a wiki to instruct a user how to get espeakup working. It's on http://wiki.debian.org/accessibility , like all other Debian accessibility documentation > Also a way of turning off espeak when running emacspeak would

Re: Text console speaking - espeakup problem

2018-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Egon, le jeu. 01 nov. 2018 17:34:37 +0100, a ecrit: > I installed espeakup package. > I unable to find the espeakup voices in /usr/lib/espeakup-data (no > such directory). espeakup is not a speech synthesis, it's only a proxy between the in-kernel speakup screen reader and the espeak synthesis,

Re: loss of speech in speakup when switching between console and gui

2018-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, (I reordered things a bit to make the story clearer for pulseaudio maintainers in Cc) Didier Spaier, le ven. 02 nov. 2018 01:13:09 +0100, a ecrit: > This message is an answer to the thread started by: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2018/10/msg0.html > > @Keith: If

Re: mbrola became free

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
D.J.J. Ring, Jr., le mar. 30 oct. 2018 11:29:05 -0400, a ecrit: > Do you have any recommendations for any natural sounding voices, especially > for > US English? Well, you can try the mbrola-us* voices. Samuel

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 14:59:44 +0100, a ecrit: >   well-known path > /root/.dbus/session-bus/6a68d6b78714411e945e0bfc6f29ea48-0 says > unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-trOMoamaIh,guid=5b37503569acf1466fbdb9145bd8570d So you'd try to do export

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 14:01:59 +0100, a ecrit: > Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 13:59:10 +0100, a ecrit: > > Maybe, that thanksto Android lack of shared memory file creation or > > pair of sockets communication issue, that Firefox can not work with &

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 14:07:54 +0100, a ecrit: > Here is The output. > Running environment > FAIL: at-spi-bus-launcher is not running as user > FAIL: at-spi2-registryd is not running as user That's odd, you don't have these running? > FAIL: no session bus address in

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 13:59:10 +0100, a ecrit: > Maybe, that thanksto Android lack of shared memory file creation or > pair of sockets communication issue, that Firefox can not work with > Orca because of it. But do other applications show up on Orca? Samuel

Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 13:40:37 +0100, a ecrit: > Because packagers of Debian distribution created many many ARM 64 bit > packages, I would like to know, if Firefox havebeen compiled with > accessibility support, There is no reason why accessibility would have been disabled. >

Re: mbrola became free

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Devin Prater, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 07:39:13 -0500, a ecrit: > Will it have the ability to be integrated into eSpeak? It's the same mbrola, so it already works with espeak, yes. With the latest modifications of speech-dispatcher to be released soon, the list of voices available through the

mbrola became free

2018-10-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I'm happy to announce that mbrola got free :) I have uploaded that new version to unstable. For now there are no free voices, so it's still in contrib, but some free voices will be available so we'll be able to put mbrola in main :) Samuel

Re: espeakup fails to install

2018-10-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le dim. 14 oct. 2018 16:50:08 +0100, a ecrit: > I removed the package with a view to reinstalling but > > invoke-rc.d: initscript espeakup, action "start" failed. Mmm, perhaps you just need to have the speakup_soft module loaded? I.e. just run modprobe speakup_soft before

Re: Can't the Binary files libttspico-data for Sid be used in Wheezy?

2018-10-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Susmita/Rajib, le lun. 08 oct. 2018 21:14:58 +0530, a ecrit: > One last query directly: Does the latest svox, i.e., pico2wave, have > option for sampling at higher than 16Khz Mono? This much. I don't think it has. > But I truly request you not to respond to my posts immediately. When I can

Re: Can't the Binary files libttspico-data for Sid be used in Wheezy?

2018-10-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Susmita/Rajib, le lun. 08 oct. 2018 20:51:26 +0530, a ecrit: > I have downloaded the svox source from Debian repo: > svox_1.0+git20130326.orig.tar.gz > > I untarred the package and have the tree as attached in the text file. > It is an Android file. I don't believe that I am capable of porting it

Re: Can't the Binary files libttspico-data for Sid be used in Wheezy?

2018-10-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Susmita/Rajib, le lun. 08 oct. 2018 14:51:56 +0530, a ecrit: > I tried, Sir. Downloaded the file from > https://packages.debian.org/buster/i386/libttspico-utils/download > > The pico2wave package is within the data.tar.xz file (inside the > /./usr/bin/ directory) of the .deb package . That is

Re: Can't the Binary files libttspico-data for Sid be used in Wheezy?

2018-10-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, (Processing yet older mail...) Susmita/Rajib, le mar. 21 août 2018 14:32:50 +0530, a ecrit: > Since the unstable libttspico-data (1.0+git20130326-8) language binary > files are supposed to be data files, couldn't they be used for my > Wheezy, replacing the old binary files in the

Re: Userland Android project, Orca and accessibility

2018-10-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le sam. 29 sept. 2018 15:34:50 +0200, a ecrit: > any advices, which will give me the right direction how to support also this > very specific environment will be very welcomed. >From my side, I have no idea how that Android environment works and don't have access to

Re: How to use a better TTS, such as Pico?

2018-08-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
- Forwarded message from Susmita/Rajib - From: Susmita/Rajib To: sthiba...@debian.org Subject: How to use a better TTS, such as Pico? Cc: Debian Accessibility Team Dear Sirs, I can't thank you enough for including the svox package with Debian GNu-Linux Wheezy which I use currently.

Bug#907640: compiz: Migrating to compiz-reloaded?

2018-08-30 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: compiz Severity: important Hello, The launchpad upstream for compiz has switched to light maintenance mode and will not make further development since Ubuntu has stopped using it. How do people feel about switching to compiz-reloaded? https://gitlab.com/compiz Basically they

Re: Various X problems

2018-08-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le mer. 15 août 2018 01:00:00 +0200, a ecrit: > I guess I use a driver Intel, but not so easy to be sure from log. [ 69863.559] (--) PCI:*(0@0:2:0) 8086:0116:103c:1619 rev 9, So it's an Intel (hint: famous 8086 ID) You should also send your dmesg output so they get to

Re: Various X problems

2018-08-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le mer. 15 août 2018 00:24:08 +0200, a ecrit: > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le mer. 15 août 2018 00:19:27 +0200, a ecrit: > > Yes, I have just done a new trial, it is a reproducible case. If the > > pasted string contains an accent, X crashes. > &g

Re: Various X problems

2018-08-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le mer. 15 août 2018 00:19:27 +0200, a ecrit: > >> Finally, maybe it is related, I use this script to make my screen black > >> and my > >> screen no longer becomes black. More precisely, to make it black, after > >> running > >> the script, I have to do alt-ctrl-f1 and

Re: Various X problems

2018-08-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le mer. 15 août 2018 00:19:27 +0200, a ecrit: > Yes, I have just done a new trial, it is a reproducible case. If the > pasted string contains an accent, X crashes. Ok, that's in line with the reproducer I could come up with. > Should I open a bug in X? What component? I

Re: espeakup

2018-08-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Frank Carmickle, le ven. 03 août 2018 15:36:47 -0400, a ecrit: > Did you see the backtrace in my last message? Yes, I just didn't get around finding the time to analyze it yet. Samuel

Re: Various X problems

2018-08-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le sam. 11 août 2018 13:18:22 +0200, a ecrit: > When I use the cut-and-paste command of brltty, it works all right, but > randomly and for whatever reason, X crashes. I pasted the log here: > [1]http://demo.accelibreinfo.eu/Xorg.0.log.old Do you see any pattern in

Re: buster net install image speakup not starting

2018-08-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le ven. 10 août 2018 11:02:18 +0100, a ecrit: > On 09/08/18 22:46, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/buster_di_alpha3+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-buster-DI-alpha3-amd64-netinst.iso > > >

Re: buster net install image speakup not starting

2018-08-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Keith Barrett, le jeu. 09 août 2018 21:10:25 +0100, a ecrit: > On 09/08/18 16:05, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > There is no such known issue, netinst images should have speakup > > included. > Then it looks like there is an issue, is there any information I can provide > to

Re: buster net install image speakup not starting

2018-08-09 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Keith Barrett, le jeu. 09 août 2018 15:29:02 +0100, a ecrit: > Is there a knows issue with the buster installation images where speakup > does not start? > > I used the image Debian GNU/Linux buster-DI-alpha3 "Buster" - Official > Snapshot amd64 NETINST 20180612-18:52 > I pressed "s" but

Re: Using Mbrola with BRLTTY

2018-07-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Halim Sahin, le sam. 28 juil. 2018 10:10:23 +0200, a ecrit: > On Fr, Jul 27, 2018 at 03:17:30 +0200, Ali Gürler wrote: > > > > is there any chance to use the mbrola voices with BRLTTY? > > Yes if you write a speech-dispatcher generic module for txt2pho and mbrola > and add it to speechd.conf

Re: espeakup

2018-07-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Frank Carmickle, le jeu. 26 juil. 2018 14:07:03 -0400, a ecrit: > > so we have an idea of what it is doing. > > I’m not that good with a debugger. I would have thought that you would want > me to send a report of a backtrace when it stops speaking, Yes, that's the idea > but it stops

Re: espeakup

2018-07-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, le mer. 25 juil. 2018 12:54:44 -0400, a ecrit: > Is it necessary to modify our sources.list file to use the debug debian > archive and if so, what would that line or those lines need to be? Yes, it's something like deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ stable-debug

Re: espeakup

2018-07-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Frank Carmickle, le mar. 17 juil. 2018 12:45:56 -0400, a ecrit: > I’m having issues where speech just stops. Killing espeakup and restarting > it is the only thing that seems to help. It does not appear to crash. Does > anyone have any ideas about how this can be improved? Well, by

Re: Fenrir 1.9.2 Released

2018-07-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
chrys, le mar. 17 juil. 2018 19:01:09 +0200, a ecrit: > I don't have the python skills but maybe you could emulate a brail display: > > https://linux.die.net/man/1/qemu-kvm That's one way to do it, yes: running fenrir within a VM which uses -usbdevice braille. But you can also just run brltty

Re: orca 3.28 users should upgrade to 3.28.1-2

2018-06-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alex ARNAUD, le ven. 29 juin 2018 11:56:34 +0200, a ecrit: > Could you also keep in mind to apply the patch in stretch-backports too? Oh indeed, now uploaded. Samuel

orca 3.28 users should upgrade to 3.28.1-2

2018-06-28 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, The wordwrap option has been enabling itself in orca 3.28, even if it is still quite experimental. People who have Orca 3.28 should upgrade to package 3.28.1-2 which I have just uploaded and should land to testing in a couple of days, to get the fix, then restart Orca, and disable the

Re: Debian Installer Buster Alpha 3 release

2018-06-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Among things for buster installer alpha3: Cyril Brulebois, le mar. 19 juin 2018 17:15:51 +0200, a ecrit: > * espeakup: > - Fix path to voice definitions, which fixes language auto-switch > in the installer. > - Configure debconf frontend to readline on the installed system

Re: Fenrir 1.9 released

2018-06-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, chrys, le ven. 08 juin 2018 00:48:49 +0200, a ecrit: > i write you to notify that i just released an new fenrir release: > [1]https://github.com/chrys87/fenrir/releases/tag/1.9 It's now in unstable. Samuel

Re: pulseaudio and espeakup

2018-05-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael A Ray, le ven. 04 mai 2018 13:18:08 +0100, a ecrit: > Perhaps a way to try is to run speech-dispatcher in TCP socket mode in a > docker container. Well, I don't think a container is needed, you can just run speech-dispatcher as a system service. And the problem is not there, but rather:

Re: pulseaudio and espeakup

2018-05-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian Schoepplein, le ven. 04 mai 2018 13:17:45 +0200, a ecrit: > Pulse is running as a systemwide daemon and orca and brltty are using > speechd. Well, this is probably not something we want to promote and certainly not use by default since this is discouraged and unsupported by pulseaudio

Re: pulseaudio and espeakup

2018-05-04 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le ven. 04 mai 2018 10:25:03 +0200, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault schrieb am 03.05.2018, 23:57 +0200: > >john doe, le mer. 02 mai 2018 10:06:42 +0200, a ecrit: > >> On 5/2/2018 1:40 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > >> > I'm afraid the only solution

Re: pulseaudio and espeakup

2018-05-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le jeu. 03 mai 2018 23:57:35 +0200, a ecrit: > I see that Xorg has a XFree86_has_VT property on the root window which > is 1/0 depending whether the VT is active or not. We could have a tool > which monitors it to trigger the audio device release on switching off &g

Re: pulseaudio and espeakup

2018-05-03 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, john doe, le mer. 02 mai 2018 10:06:42 +0200, a ecrit: > On 5/2/2018 1:40 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > I'm afraid the only solution we have is that both espeakup and > > speech-dispatcher just release the audio device when they think they > > won't have anything

Re: pulseaudio and espeakup

2018-05-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, I had a closer look at all of this. Felipe Sateler, le ven. 02 févr. 2018 20:38:43 -0300, a ecrit: > There are two mechanisms by which pulseaudio coordinates device access. > > The first one is the `uaccess` mechanism provided by udev. Pulseaudio > monitors the device for ACL changes,

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Chris Lamb, le sam. 21 avril 2018 16:28:49 +0100, a ecrit: > Let me play devil's advocate for a second… Whilst I would agree > that uploading a package containing all the existing ones for an > addition might potentially be wasteful of mirror bandwidth, rsync & > friends would surely be clever

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-21 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Chris Lamb, le sam. 21 avril 2018 09:02:44 +0100, a ecrit: > Anyway, did you consider using dpkg's support for multiple source > tarballs? Yes. The thing is: I don't expect many updates (if any) of the existing packages: since they basically ship a couple of files in well-established

Orca 3.28 available in stretch-backports

2018-04-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Orca 3.28 is now available in stretch-backports. You can get it by adding this apt repository line: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch-backports main and running apt-get install -t stretch-backports gnome-orca libatk-adaptor which will bring the latest accessibility stack

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Gevers, le jeu. 19 avril 2018 08:59:46 +0200, a ecrit: > I even thought about creating one > big package (with multiple tars) but decided against that as the tar > balls for voices are huge nowadays. And one addition would mean a whole > new source version (with its load on my connection and

Re: multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-19 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Paul Gevers, le jeu. 19 avril 2018 08:33:23 +0200, a ecrit: > On 18-04-18 23:01, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > There is currently some momentum to make espeak-ng able to use mbrola > > voices. I am thus uploading them to Debian. Here is the list of ITPs: > > I

multiple ITPs - mbrola voices

2018-04-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault <sthiba...@debian.org> * Package name: mbrola-ar1 Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Faculte Polytechnique de Mons - mbrola team <mbr...@tcts.fpms.ac.be> * URL : http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis * License : s

Re: Hi, I am blind

2018-04-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Paul Wise, le mar. 17 avril 2018 11:20:15 +0800, a ecrit: > On Mon, 2018-04-16 at 10:15 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > Well, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=855446 > > accessible-via seems different to what I propose. > > accessible-via references

Re: Hi, I am blind

2018-04-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Paul Wise, le lun. 16 avril 2018 10:05:52 +0800, a ecrit: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:20 AM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > > For example, adding a tag to mention if some package is or not > > accessible would be a good idea. > > There is already an accessibility facet, but it covers

Re: Hi, I am blind

2018-04-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Clément Hermann, le sam. 14 avril 2018 16:14:57 +0200, a ecrit: > There are no backports available > currently (https://backports.debian.org/, that would get you 3.28), and > I'm not sure how feasible it would be to backport it without backporting > all of GNOME. Only the at-spi part

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, michael caron couturier, on ven. 16 mars 2018 01:11:35 -0400, wrote: > Minimal iso is worthless for an accessibility user and you would break > the purpose of it by adding accessibility, it's clay to build from > with the only bare minimum. Well, "bare minimum" does not mean

Re: Accessibility for person with a motor disability

2018-03-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alex ARNAUD, on mar. 20 mars 2018 17:33:25 +0100, wrote: > Is Dasher should be configured to replace the keyboard when I open a text > edition field? IIRC that has never been implemented. It would be a matter of making it e.g. an ibus input method or such. Samuel

Re: Accessibility for person with a motor disability

2018-03-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mats L, on mar. 20 mars 2018 16:22:25 +0100, wrote: > Unfortunately the GNU/Linux environments are badly missing a full-featured > tailorable on-screen keyboard alternative (including switch input etc.) > following up on the [4]GOK project since it was discontinued. Is onboard not the

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on jeu. 15 mars 2018 11:47:37 -0400, wrote: > Skip since you obviously don't understand ... Well, if I can't understand, it will be hard for you to get any answer, so we need to discuss so I can understand. > There's no accessibility in the mini iso, I would have used

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on jeu. 15 mars 2018 10:53:32 -0400, wrote: > If you need at all cost to see to under that accessibility isn't on a > build made from the mini iso : > > https://i.imgur.com/VIVjeSl.png You mean you installed Debian without using accessibility, and then you got a system

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on jeu. 15 mars 2018 03:56:39 -0400, wrote: > "Accessibility support is available on all images except the non-gtk > mini.iso image." > > https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility Ok, so the bug was in the documentation, which I have now fixed,

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on mer. 14 mars 2018 22:41:31 -0400, wrote: > Mini iso don't, How so? What doesn't work? If you don't provide details, we can't fix bugs, because for all that I know, it just works. Samuel

Re: Debian accessibility settings

2018-03-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
michael caron couturier, on mer. 14 mars 2018 20:00:07 -0400, wrote: > I asked cause mini iso don't include accessibility It does include it. Or else it's a bug that shall be reported and fixed. Note however that for speakup support you need to take the gtk mini.iso, which doesn't have size

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