Re: GNOME 3.2 / pyatspi / at-spi2-core
On 17.12.2011 20:31, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: Hi guys, It seems that Mario is very busy and cannot answer. I would like to help, however everybody knows that my technical skills are limited, so I can't take a decision and test beyond the user point of view. So I propose something: - Could someone tell me what packages shuld be updated? It's about updating pyatspi and at-spi2-core to 2.2.x - I would update the packages on experimental. Thus, even sid users will be able to work using experimental packages, without needing push to sid. Sounds ok to me, if those packages are first uploaded to exp. What do you think of all that? If my help is needed, I can give it. If no... wait and see I did notice that the debian git repository already has 2.2 versions for both at-spi2-core and pyatspi which have been prepared for Ubuntu by Luke Yelavich (in CC). Maybe it would make sense to build on top of his work and working more closely together would benefit both Debian and Ubuntu. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: GNOME 3.2 / pyatspi / at-spi2-core
Hi again, The existing at-spi 2.0 packages need to be updated to version 2.2.3. The following is the link to the announcement. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2011-November/msg00019.html Please explain to me to enable me to understand fine: at-spi 2.0, on Debian, is only in experimental isn't it? If yes, I can try to update (probably before end 2011). All I know now is that if Mario didn't push to sid, it's because it didn't consider that the atspi2 packages work enough. Is there some update which fix the problems? No idea. Yes, the 2.0 release wasn't much use. The 2.2 release should do better. Ok. What do you think of all that? If my help is needed, I can give it. If no... wait and see I think Debian needs packages for at-spi 2.2 and orca 3.2.2. Those are the latest upstream releases for gnome 3.2. Yes, but given my power in Debian and my technical capability, I propose to do any tests on a sid environment with such packages (orca, at-spi, etc.) from experimental repo. Would it be enough? I ask not to work uselessly. The sooner packages exist in Debian, the sooner the issues can be documented for Wheezy. I agree, but the situation is now complex, so we have to try something waiting for the maintainer, which is the only people who has the technical skill and responsibility to push to sid. I'm not sure my initiative is good, so I stay careful. Sorry Mario if I did so much. Regards, Kenny Jean-Philippe MENGUAL signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: GNOME 3.2 / pyatspi / at-spi2-core
Hi. On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 08:31:45PM +0100, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: Hi guys, It seems that Mario is very busy and cannot answer. I would like to help, however everybody knows that my technical skills are limited, so I can't take a decision and test beyond the user point of view. So I propose something: - Could someone tell me what packages shuld be updated? - I would update the packages on experimental. Thus, even sid users will be able to work using experimental packages, without needing push to sid. - Then, let Mario decide about pushing to sid; - if he doesn't come back (I can't believe it), we'll have to find a solution to do technical tests. The existing at-spi 2.0 packages need to be updated to version 2.2.3. The following is the link to the announcement. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-announce-list/2011-November/msg00019.html All I know now is that if Mario didn't push to sid, it's because it didn't consider that the atspi2 packages work enough. Is there some update which fix the problems? No idea. Yes, the 2.0 release wasn't much use. The 2.2 release should do better. What do you think of all that? If my help is needed, I can give it. If no... wait and see I think Debian needs packages for at-spi 2.2 and orca 3.2.2. Those are the latest upstream releases for gnome 3.2. The sooner packages exist in Debian, the sooner the issues can be documented for Wheezy. Kenny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111219055732.ga11...@hittsjunk.net
Re: GNOME 3.2 / pyatspi / at-spi2-core
Hi guys,
It seems that Mario is very busy and cannot answer. I would like to
help, however everybody knows that my technical skills are limited, so I
can't take a decision and test beyond the user point of view.
So I propose something:
- Could someone tell me what packages shuld be updated?
- I would update the packages on experimental. Thus, even sid users will
be able to work using experimental packages, without needing push to
sid.
- Then, let Mario decide about pushing to sid;
- if he doesn't come back (I can't believe it), we'll have to find a
solution to do technical tests.
All I know now is that if Mario didn't push to sid, it's because it
didn't consider that the atspi2 packages work enough. Is there some
update which fix the problems? No idea.
What do you think of all that? If my help is needed, I can give it. If
no... wait and see
Best regards,
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Le vendredi 16 décembre 2011 à 16:07 +0100, Michael Biebl a écrit :
On 15.12.2011 23:01, Michael Biebl wrote:
Hi Mario, hi Samuel,
to unblock the situation regarding GNOME 3.2, I wanted to let you know
that I'm planning to NMU pyatspi tomorrow and upload the current version
2.0.2 to unstable via DELAYED/5.
I've done the NMU a few moments ago. Attached is the debdiff.
As using static and dynamic pygobject at the same time does not really
work that well, I've pulled a fix from upstream Git for that.
I've changed the dependency on python-gobject to python-gi accordingly.
The complete changelog reads:
pyatspi (2.0.2+dfsg-1.1) unstable; urgency=low
.
* Non-maintainer upload.
* Upload to unstable.
* Use introspection for the GLib main loop.
Patch cherry-picked from upstream Git.
* Depend on python-gi instead of python-gobject.
* Use dh_python2 so ${python:Depends} is correctly set.
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Re: GNOME 3.2 / pyatspi / at-spi2-core
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL mengualjean...@free.fr wrote: - I would update the packages on experimental. Thus, even sid users will be able to work using experimental packages, without needing push to sid. Perhaps it would be better just to ask the Debian Gnome maintainers if they can do an NMU of the packages directly to Sid. That way, the updating and uploading of the packages will be done by people who do have the right background. The only way to make Gnome 3.2 accessible, as I understand it, is to update atspi2-core and Orca, and since 3.2 is on its way already, there really isn't a decision to be made anymore. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111217232608.ga5...@jdc.jasonjgw.net
Re: GNOME 3.2 / pyatspi / at-spi2-core
Hi, If I understood everything (note that Debian gnome team was in Cc om my mail), gnome team doesn't want to replace Mario on atspi, as they don't know the applications and they prefer waiting for his analysis. That's why I think we should try experimental before thinking of sid, hoping he'll be back (I'm sure he only is busy now). Regards, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL Le dimanche 18 décembre 2011 à 10:26 +1100, Jason White a écrit : Jean-Philippe MENGUAL mengualjean...@free.fr wrote: - I would update the packages on experimental. Thus, even sid users will be able to work using experimental packages, without needing push to sid. Perhaps it would be better just to ask the Debian Gnome maintainers if they can do an NMU of the packages directly to Sid. That way, the updating and uploading of the packages will be done by people who do have the right background. The only way to make Gnome 3.2 accessible, as I understand it, is to update atspi2-core and Orca, and since 3.2 is on its way already, there really isn't a decision to be made anymore. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée
Re: GNOME 3.2 / pyatspi / at-spi2-core
On 15.12.2011 23:01, Michael Biebl wrote:
Hi Mario, hi Samuel,
to unblock the situation regarding GNOME 3.2, I wanted to let you know
that I'm planning to NMU pyatspi tomorrow and upload the current version
2.0.2 to unstable via DELAYED/5.
I've done the NMU a few moments ago. Attached is the debdiff.
As using static and dynamic pygobject at the same time does not really
work that well, I've pulled a fix from upstream Git for that.
I've changed the dependency on python-gobject to python-gi accordingly.
The complete changelog reads:
pyatspi (2.0.2+dfsg-1.1) unstable; urgency=low
.
* Non-maintainer upload.
* Upload to unstable.
* Use introspection for the GLib main loop.
Patch cherry-picked from upstream Git.
* Depend on python-gi instead of python-gobject.
* Use dh_python2 so ${python:Depends} is correctly set.
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diff -Nru pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/changelog pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/changelog
--- pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/changelog 2011-07-28 14:34:35.0 +0200
+++ pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/changelog 2011-12-16 15:51:54.0 +0100
@@ -1,3 +1,14 @@
+pyatspi (2.0.2+dfsg-1.1) unstable; urgency=low
+
+ * Non-maintainer upload.
+ * Upload to unstable.
+ * Use introspection for the GLib main loop.
+Patch cherry-picked from upstream Git.
+ * Depend on python-gi instead of python-gobject.
+ * Use dh_python2 so ${python:Depends} is correctly set.
+
+ -- Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:40:13 +0100
+
pyatspi (2.0.2+dfsg-1) experimental; urgency=low
* Remove tests/* until upstream clarifies licensing.
diff -Nru pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/control pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/control
--- pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/control 2011-07-28 14:34:35.0 +0200
+++ pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/control 2011-12-16 15:50:43.0 +0100
@@ -7,9 +7,11 @@
Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-a11y/pyatspi.git
Homepage: http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/GNOME3
Build-Depends: debhelper (= 7),
+ python (= 2.6.6-3~),
python-dbus,
pkg-config,
python-gobject-dev (= 2.26.0)
+X-Python-Version: = 2.5
Standards-Version: 3.9.2
Package: python-pyatspi2
@@ -18,7 +20,7 @@
Replaces: python-pyatspi
Depends: ${misc:Depends},
${python:Depends},
- python-gobject (= 2.26.0),
+ python-gi (= 3.0),
gir1.2-atspi-2.0
Description: Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface - Python bindings
at-spi is the Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface.
diff -Nru pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/patches/0001-Use-introspection-for-the-GLib-main-loop.patch pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/patches/0001-Use-introspection-for-the-GLib-main-loop.patch
--- pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/patches/0001-Use-introspection-for-the-GLib-main-loop.patch 1970-01-01 01:00:00.0 +0100
+++ pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/patches/0001-Use-introspection-for-the-GLib-main-loop.patch 2011-12-16 15:38:12.0 +0100
@@ -0,0 +1,33 @@
+From a48759f60b1a863f14238a5cc089eaac79d3bf2c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
+From: Mike Gorse mgo...@novell.com
+Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:18:00 -0500
+Subject: [PATCH] Use introspection for the GLib main loop
+
+---
+ pyatspi/registry.py |3 +--
+ 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
+
+diff --git a/pyatspi/registry.py b/pyatspi/registry.py
+index 89a36bd..0b0130c 100644
+--- a/pyatspi/registry.py
b/pyatspi/registry.py
+@@ -28,7 +28,6 @@ __all__ = [Registry,
+ set_default_registry]
+
+ import os as _os
+-import gobject
+ from gi.repository import Atspi
+ from gi.repository import GObject
+ import time
+@@ -80,7 +79,7 @@ class Registry(object):
+ self.app_event_register = None
+ self.desktop = None
+
+- self.main_loop = gobject.MainLoop()
++ self.main_loop = GObject.MainLoop()
+
+ def __call__(self):
+
+--
+1.7.7.3
+
diff -Nru pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/patches/series pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/patches/series
--- pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/patches/series 1970-01-01 01:00:00.0 +0100
+++ pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/patches/series 2011-12-16 15:38:17.0 +0100
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+0001-Use-introspection-for-the-GLib-main-loop.patch
diff -Nru pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/rules pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/rules
--- pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/rules 2011-07-28 14:34:35.0 +0200
+++ pyatspi-2.0.2+dfsg/debian/rules 2011-12-16 15:51:02.0 +0100
@@ -1,3 +1,3 @@
#!/usr/bin/make -f
%:
- dh $@
+ dh $@ --with python2
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GNOME 3.2 / pyatspi / at-spi2-core
Hi Mario, hi Samuel, to unblock the situation regarding GNOME 3.2, I wanted to let you know that I'm planning to NMU pyatspi tomorrow and upload the current version 2.0.2 to unstable via DELAYED/5. This will allow us to also update gnome-shell and orca to 3.2. We'd still appreciate having updates of pyatspi and at-spi2-core to 2.2, so we can also update accerciser. Rergards, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
