Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:44:08 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > for the armel port in buster the question of raising the baseline came up. > > That has been a recurring question over the time, the reason to > > maintain ARMv4t instruction set was OpenMoko mobile phone, which lot > > of people was

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 07:45:35PM +, Wookey wrote: >... > I'm very happy if people mark problematic packages that no longer > build for armv5 as 'notforus' if no-one steps up to fix them in a > timely fashion, but killing the architecture because some upstreams > no-longer care about v5 seems

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On 2017-11-07 11:48 +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > On 2017-11-07 11:08, Julien Cristau wrote: > > Keeping armel on life support for 2 more > > years is a significant drain on DSA and our hosters, for questionable > > benefit. > > I agree, that this support comes not for free, but the benefit >

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 11:08:39AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > > That's not clear to me at all. Keeping armel on life support for 2 more > years is a significant drain on DSA and our hosters, >... What kind of significant drain exactly? AFAIK so far noone has stated that it would be safe to

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 01:43:50PM +0100, Héctor Orón Martínez wrote: >... > 2017-11-05 22:32 GMT+01:00 Adrian Bunk : > > > for the armel port in buster the question of raising the baseline came up. > > That has been a recurring question over the time, the reason to > maintain

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

W dniu 07.11.2017 o 14:11, Thomas Goirand pisze: > On 11/05/2017 10:32 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: >> 20 years ago you could go into a shop and buy a mobile phone >> with a CPU supported by the armel port in stretch. > I didn't know Stretch was released 20 years ago. :) Stretch maybe not. But ARMv4t

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On 11/05/2017 10:32 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > 20 years ago you could go into a shop and buy a mobile phone > with a CPU supported by the armel port in stretch. I didn't know Stretch was released 20 years ago. :) Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 01:43:50PM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > >Also build daemons are aging, those were initially donated by Marvell >(some development boards) which then they replaced with other >development boards. We have been unable to find suitable hardware to >build armel port and current

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

>>>[+debian-embedded, feel free to adjust CC'd mailing lists on reply] Hello, Thanks for bringing up this discussion! And apologies for adding more complexity to the initial question. Find few comments inlined below, 2017-11-05 22:32 GMT+01:00 Adrian Bunk : > for the armel

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

Quoting "W. Martin Borgert" : There is still relevant hardware around which can run "armel", but not "armhf". Forgot to mention some, that one can still buy: On https://www.taskit.de/stamp-overview.html the three boards named "9261", "9G20", and "9G45". AFAIK. Also

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On Tue, 2017-11-07 at 02:49 -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > How do I know if a machine is ARMv4t? I have a sheevaplug and a > couple of openrd machines (one “client”, the other “ultimate”) that > are still doing useful work. Are they v4t? They're ARMv5 (so still need armel). I too have similar

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

> On Nov 7, 2017, at 3:27 AM, Christian Seiler wrote: > > Hi, > > Am 2017-11-07 11:49, schrieb Rick Thomas: >> How do I know if a machine is ARMv4t? I have a sheevaplug and a >> couple of openrd machines (one “client”, the other “ultimate”) that >> are still doing useful

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

Hi, Am 2017-11-07 11:49, schrieb Rick Thomas: How do I know if a machine is ARMv4t? I have a sheevaplug and a couple of openrd machines (one “client”, the other “ultimate”) that are still doing useful work. Are they v4t? cat /proc/cpuinfo should do the trick. It might not show the 't' after

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

How do I know if a machine is ARMv4t? I have a sheevaplug and a couple of openrd machines (one “client”, the other “ultimate”) that are still doing useful work. Are they v4t? Thanks, Rick > On Nov 5, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Hi, > > for the armel port in

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On 2017-11-07 11:08, Julien Cristau wrote: > Keeping armel on life support for 2 more > years is a significant drain on DSA and our hosters, for questionable > benefit. I agree, that this support comes not for free, but the benefit is not questionable to me: There is still relevant hardware

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On 11/07/2017 11:08 AM, Julien Cristau wrote: That's not clear to me at all. Keeping armel on life support for 2 more years is a significant drain on DSA and our hosters, for questionable benefit. I think a possible solution is the plan we had inside Debian Ports which is to introduce a

Re: Anyone using stretch/buster/sid on ARMv4t ?

On 11/05/2017 10:32 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Hi, > > for the armel port in buster the question of raising the baseline came up. > > 20 years ago you could go into a shop and buy a mobile phone > with a CPU supported by the armel port in stretch. > > Roger Shimizu is doing a great job on ARMv5