Re: Architecture names

2020-04-16 Thread Wookey
On 2020-04-16 18:35 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 04:15:00PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > It does seem strange to install the 'amd64' distro on my Intel Core > > boxes. As I was aware of the history behind the name it made sense. > > x86_64 is a bit more difficult to

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 04:15:00PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > It does seem strange to install the 'amd64' distro on my Intel Core > boxes. As I was aware of the history behind the name it made sense. > x86_64 is a bit more difficult to type but seems less ambiguous. Oh > well. Too bad it has

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread Wookey
On 2020-04-16 19:57 +0100, peter green wrote: > Interestingly andriod seems to use arm64 for the "abi"* and > aarch64 for the "instruction set" I was hoping to avoid getting into all this because it's detail almost no-one needs to care about, but there are indeed separate names for the instructio

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2020 16 Apr 13:20 -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > Besides there is i386 which intel retroactively called IA32, and then to > confuse everyone decided IA64 was itanium, not the 64bit version of x86. > Lots of people tried to install ia64 debian on 64 bit x86 machines > over the years. Debian

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread peter green
On 16/04/2020 19:27, Wookey wrote: Apologies for the confusion. I was rather hoping more projects would use the obvious (and IMHO more user-friendly) arm64 name, rather than following the corporate steer, and in the early days it was hard to tell how this would go. But most have plumped for aarc

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread Wookey
On 2020-04-16 19:43 +0200, deloptes wrote: > So what can the community rule out here. Is it aarch64 and arm64 the same or > not? yes, arm64 and aarch64 are different names for the same architecture. Linux (kernel) and debian/ubuntu (and Apple in IOS/LLVM) called it arm64. ARM corp called it aar

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 07:58:29PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > I think this is the answer > https://wiki.debian.org/Arm64Port#Nomenclature_and_defines > > If your package does architecture-specific things explicitly then you will > need to understand what names to use in tests. > > The gnu name for

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread deloptes
deloptes wrote: > > So what can the community rule out here. Is it aarch64 and arm64 the same > or not? I think this is the answer https://wiki.debian.org/Arm64Port#Nomenclature_and_defines If your package does architecture-specific things explicitly then you will need to understand what nam

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread deloptes
Tixy wrote: > Don't know what this has to do with Apple, unless it's an LLVM arch > naming thing? Yes LLVM. I was planning to build our favorite desktop on arm64 for fun, but being preoccupied now, could move forward, so this topic is intrigueing me as to what architecture to start and build unde

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 17:01 +0200, deloptes wrote: > Tixy wrote: > > > AArch64 is the abbreviation used by ARM for their 64-bit ISA, and is > > also used used by projects like GCC. > > I read this, but it said that the naming was merged to arm64 which initiated > from Apple. I am confused, cause

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread basti
On 16.04.20 16:49, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > For 5.5: > That's possible. I did not check USB yet. > And see the latest messages on > https://github.com/lategoodbye/rpi-zero/issues/43 ... Yes I have seen and only found CONFIG_USB_NET_CDCETHER in config-5.5.0-1-arm64 so it seems not to be set or unsup

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread deloptes
Tixy wrote: > AArch64 is the abbreviation used by ARM for their 64-bit ISA, and is > also used used by projects like GCC. I read this, but it said that the naming was merged to arm64 which initiated from Apple. I am confused, cause the article said you can use both in GCC for same thing

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, For 5.5: That's possible. I did not check USB yet. And see the latest messages on https://github.com/lategoodbye/rpi-zero/issues/43 ... For 5.6: strange. I think it worked. It would really be great to get a 5.6 kernel in experimental, from the kernel team. I'll try to refresh the status of

Re: The state of Arm64 on Raspberry Pi (and its Documentation

2020-04-16 Thread basti
Hello Lucas, thanks for the link. Build a image with kernel 5.5 boot the rpi4, but USB is not working. lsusb show nothink. ( I know there is the Problem with the pcie) Build Image with Kernel 5.6 does nothing. No monitor output, no output on serial. When I try to upgrade the image with kernel 5.

Re: Graphical installer on arm64 (netboot and cdrom)

2020-04-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 05:43:36PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >ACK. > >Building locally to test here... And I have a build that looks OK by eye. Unfortunately, my local test machine (Macchiatobin) seems to be dying and I can't test this effectively now. :-( It needs some tiny debian-cd change