Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On 25/09/17 14:30, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 25 September 2017 05:15:36 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I believe lo is now inserted automatically. Its not mentioned as a builtin in the debian handbook pdf, I read the networking section yesterday looking for clues. I've another machine about 3

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Monday 25 September 2017 05:15:36 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 25/09/17 03:15, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 24 September 2017 17:50:22 Alan Corey wrote: > >> Try putting your static route in interfaces, in the eth0 section > >> with an up, like > >> > >> iface eth0 inet static > >>

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On 25/09/17 03:15, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 24 September 2017 17:50:22 Alan Corey wrote: Try putting your static route in interfaces, in the eth0 section with an up, like iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.71.3/24 netmask 255.255.255.0 up route add default gw

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

I was just thinking of how waiting for wifi to connect hangs my pis booting. Times out at 1 minute 20 seconds or so. If the interface was supposed to be connected to the router to be considered to be up that could be a problem. lo is loopback, 127.0.0.1, always points to the machine you're on.

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Sunday 24 September 2017 17:50:22 Alan Corey wrote: > Try putting your static route in interfaces, in the eth0 section with > an up, like > > iface eth0 inet static > address 192.168.71.3/24 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > up route add default gw 192.168.71.1 > > I think post-up might be

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

Try putting your static route in interfaces, in the eth0 section with an up, like iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.71.3/24 netmask 255.255.255.0 up route add default gw 192.168.71.1 I think post-up might be too late, maybe there's a pre-up. On 9/24/17, Gene Heskett

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Sunday 24 September 2017 16:20:31 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 24/09/17 19:45, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> I wouldn't put the manual route command in rc.local, I'd put it in > >>> the network interface definition as in > >>> > >>> allow-hotplug eth0 > >>> iface eth0 inet static > >>>

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On 24/09/17 19:45, Gene Heskett wrote: I wouldn't put the manual route command in rc.local, I'd put it in the network interface definition as in allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 172.27.200.5/24 post-up route add default gw 172.27.200.1 dev eth0 metric 0 pre-down

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Sunday 24 September 2017 14:08:25 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 24 September 2017 13:43:20 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > > On 24/09/17 16:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 24 September 2017 11:59:57 Alan Corey wrote: > > >> But what's the purpose of having the gateway fields in interfaces

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Sunday 24 September 2017 13:43:20 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 24/09/17 16:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 24 September 2017 11:59:57 Alan Corey wrote: > >> But what's the purpose of having the gateway fields in interfaces > >> if not to to be reliant on the routing table? > >> > >> But

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On 24/09/17 16:30, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 24 September 2017 11:59:57 Alan Corey wrote: But what's the purpose of having the gateway fields in interfaces if not to to be reliant on the routing table? But it's worth a shot, something like route add default gw 192.168.71.1 That was it!

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Sunday 24 September 2017 12:36:41 Alan Corey wrote: > Try obconf from openbox, I have 4 workspaces on my hp laptop done with > that. I think it's LXDE. They survive reboots for me. > This is on the pi? Humm, not found on it either. I'll need to install it? Thanks Alan. Cheers, Gene Heskett

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Sunday 24 September 2017 12:26:49 Alan Corey wrote: > So this is on the rock64 or one of your pis? I thought the rock64 was > too experimental to be able to use apt. Raspbian or Debian? > Once I had a network, apt on the rock64 runs fine. installed sd card image is:

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

Try obconf from openbox, I have 4 workspaces on my hp laptop done with that. I think it's LXDE. They survive reboots for me. On 9/24/17, Alan Corey wrote: > So this is on the rock64 or one of your pis? I thought the rock64 was > too experimental to be able to use apt.

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

So this is on the rock64 or one of your pis? I thought the rock64 was too experimental to be able to use apt. Raspbian or Debian? On 9/24/17, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 24 September 2017 11:59:57 Alan Corey wrote: > >> But what's the purpose of having the gateway

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Sunday 24 September 2017 11:59:57 Alan Corey wrote: > But what's the purpose of having the gateway fields in interfaces if > not to to be reliant on the routing table? > > But it's worth a shot, something like > route add default gw 192.168.71.1 That was it! Now I've used apt to update 5

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

But what's the purpose of having the gateway fields in interfaces if not to to be reliant on the routing table? But it's worth a shot, something like route add default gw 192.168.71.1 It's simple enough to undo it with route del default to take it back out if it doesn't work. I dunno, I haven't

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Sunday 24 September 2017 07:39:34 Alan Corey wrote: > There isn't some limit on number of machines that can connect coming > from somewhere? Could be political/economic or technical. I see wifi > routers advertised as only working with n clients. > I think its been found, but no clue how to

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Sunday 24 September 2017 04:34:50 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 23/09/17 20:00, Gene Heskett wrote: > I'd suggest checking using traceroute -I and then looking at route > -n and/or ip route ls which should give you a bit more of an > indication of what's going on. IME this sort of thing

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

There isn't some limit on number of machines that can connect coming from somewhere? Could be political/economic or technical. I see wifi routers advertised as only working with n clients. Sent from my Motorola XT1505 On Sep 24, 2017 4:35 AM, "Mark Morgan Lloyd" <

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On 23/09/17 20:00, Gene Heskett wrote: So my local network is working as expected. BUT: root@rock64:/etc# ping -c1 yahoo.com PING yahoo.com (98.138.253.109) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.71.2 (192.168.71.2) icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable Note that the dns request did resolve.

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Sunday 24 September 2017 00:28:34 Alan Corey wrote: > > I'm out of ideas. And obviously I cannot configure this rock64 > > until the network works. > > It sounds like only 1 machine doesn't work, your email got out after > all. > > > and 4 other wheezy machines work as expected thru this > >

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

> I'm out of ideas. And obviously I cannot configure this rock64 until the > network works. It sounds like only 1 machine doesn't work, your email got out after all. > and 4 other wheezy machines work as expected thru this So the rock64 has a chance of working. You don't have something

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Saturday 23 September 2017 20:28:08 Alan Corey wrote: > "Destination Host Unreachable" doesn't mean it didn't resolve, it can > mean a cable's unplugged or your netmask isn't right or in this case > it's not getting outside your LAN for whatever reason. Try pinging an > outside IP like

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

"Destination Host Unreachable" doesn't mean it didn't resolve, it can mean a cable's unplugged or your netmask isn't right or in this case it's not getting outside your LAN for whatever reason. Try pinging an outside IP like 8.8.8.8 (a public Google DNS server). Ping and dns lookup are 2

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Saturday 23 September 2017 13:28:51 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 23/09/17 16:45, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 23 September 2017 12:26:23 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > >> On 23/09/17 15:00, Gene Heskett wrote: > I've never had problems with dd provided that the USB->SDcard >

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On 23/09/17 16:45, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 23 September 2017 12:26:23 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: On 23/09/17 15:00, Gene Heskett wrote: I've never had problems with dd provided that the USB->SDcard adapter's OK: what command are you using? The usual syntax: dd if=somefile bs=512

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Saturday 23 September 2017 12:26:23 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 23/09/17 15:00, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> I've never had problems with dd provided that the USB->SDcard > >> adapter's OK: what command are you using? > > > > The usual syntax: > > dd if=somefile bs=512 of=somedevice, and in the

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On 23/09/17 15:00, Gene Heskett wrote: I've never had problems with dd provided that the USB->SDcard adapter's OK: what command are you using? The usual syntax: dd if=somefile bs=512 of=somedevice, and in the case of sd card copying, Tell us the /exact/ command you're using. since no 2

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

Last first, your fstab and your /boot/cmdline.txt have to be pointing to the partition you want to boot. Those were the only changes I had to make when I picloned my sd to my hard drive. By default they point to /dev/mmcblk0, change them to something like /dev/sda. The ones on the hard drive.

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 22:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > Trying to dd a copy of the micro-sd card the pi-3b is booting from, to > another micro-sd card in a usb reader/writer, and winding up with > nothing but an empty lost+found directory on it. > > Obviously some sort of a

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Saturday 23 September 2017 10:58:47 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 23 September 2017 07:43:14 Jonathan Wilson wrote: > > On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 22:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Greetings; > > > > > > Trying to dd a copy of the micro-sd card the pi-3b is booting > > > from, to another

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Saturday 23 September 2017 07:43:14 Jonathan Wilson wrote: > On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 22:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > Trying to dd a copy of the micro-sd card the pi-3b is booting from, > > to another micro-sd card in a usb reader/writer, and winding up with > > nothing

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Saturday 23 September 2017 04:36:49 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 23/09/17 05:45, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Months at a time here, but anytime I need to do anything as root > > that involves more than ncurses graphics, I have to go to the > > machine and do it there, and its a stand-up job with

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On 23/09/17 05:45, Gene Heskett wrote: Months at a time here, but anytime I need to do anything as root that involves more than ncurses graphics, I have to go to the machine and do it there, and its a stand-up job with very poor gfx due to the pi's In that case investigate what's stopping you

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Saturday 23 September 2017 00:12:11 Alan Corey wrote: > I don't know, it just works for me. Even over VNC, I just tried it > from vncviewer on an OpenBSD machine. The "copy from device" is blank > until I click the down arrow on it, then it finds /dev/mmcblk0. I'm > running it on the

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

I don't know, it just works for me. Even over VNC, I just tried it from vncviewer on an OpenBSD machine. The "copy from device" is blank until I click the down arrow on it, then it finds /dev/mmcblk0. I'm running it on the machine that's running tightvncserver which I'm logged into. I use VNC

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

On Friday 22 September 2017 22:14:48 Alan Corey wrote: > I thought piclone was great for that. With a couple manual edits you > can even clone an sd to a hard drive. I have never been able to make it work. No helpfull manpage, nor does it have a help option that I've found other than what you

Re: need sd card backup on r-pi-3b

I thought piclone was great for that. With a couple manual edits you can even clone an sd to a hard drive. On 9/22/17, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > Trying to dd a copy of the micro-sd card the pi-3b is booting from, to > another micro-sd card in a usb