Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 07/13/2018 01:21 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 13/07/18 09:15, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > >> Or, alternatively: Set up systemd-networkd and systemd-resolved and don't >> waste endless amounts of time and energy to get this mess fixed which is >> bash-script-based network

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 July 2018 05:11:29 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 07/13/2018 11:02 AM, Christian Knoke wrote: > > Gene Heskett schrieb am 13. Jul um 03:53 Uhr: > >> On Thursday 12 July 2018 23:36:13 Christopher Barry wrote: > >>> follow the below 5 steps for help solving this. > >>> > >>>

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Alan Corey
If it's taking gw as an address something's in the wrong field. Sent from my Motorola XT1527 On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 9:29 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 13 July 2018 05:11:29 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > On 07/13/2018 11:02 AM, Christian Knoke wrote: > > > Gene Heskett schrieb am

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 July 2018 07:01:58 Alan Corey wrote: > Try ping 8.8.8.8 > It's a Google-run nameserver but it's handy to have an outside IP to > ping if you're having trouble looking up names. I use it as a second > nameserver. root@rock64:/etc/network# ping 8.8.8.8 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84)

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 July 2018 05:08:57 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 13/07/18 02:00, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thats a direct copy/paste, so whats wrong with that. Other than the > > fact that its been rebooted twice since the address was changed from > > 192.168.71.2 to the 11 you see above, but

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Alan Corey
Try ping 8.8.8.8 It's a Google-run nameserver but it's handy to have an outside IP to ping if you're having trouble looking up names. I use it as a second nameserver. Sent from my Motorola XT1527 On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 5:32 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 13 July 2018 05:02:26 Christian

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
On 13/07/18 09:15, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Or, alternatively: Set up systemd-networkd and systemd-resolved and don't waste endless amounts of time and energy to get this mess fixed which is bash-script-based network initialization. ..which is something that those of us who are

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 12 July 2018 23:36:13 Christopher Barry wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:52:13 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Thursday 12 July 2018 18:04:54 Christian Knoke wrote: > >> Du schriebst am 12. Jul um 16:57 Uhr: > >> > On Thursday 12 July 2018 14:16:43 Christian Knoke wrote: > >> > >

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 07/13/2018 11:02 AM, Christian Knoke wrote: > Gene Heskett schrieb am 13. Jul um 03:53 Uhr: >> On Thursday 12 July 2018 23:36:13 Christopher Barry wrote: > >>> follow the below 5 steps for help solving this. > >>> [...] >>> for f in $(find /etc/network -type f); do >>> [[ -f ${f} &&

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
On 13/07/18 02:00, Gene Heskett wrote: Thats a direct copy/paste, so whats wrong with that. Other than the fact that its been rebooted twice since the address was changed from 192.168.71.2 to the 11 you see above, but ifconfig still says its on 71.2 right now. So where the heck is it getting

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Christian Knoke
Gene Heskett schrieb am 13. Jul um 03:53 Uhr: > On Thursday 12 July 2018 23:36:13 Christopher Barry wrote: > > follow the below 5 steps for help solving this. > > [...] > > for f in $(find /etc/network -type f); do > > [[ -f ${f} && "$(file "${f}")" =~ text ]] && { > > out cat "${f}" > >

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 July 2018 05:02:26 Christian Knoke wrote: > Gene Heskett schrieb am 13. Jul um 03:53 Uhr: > > On Thursday 12 July 2018 23:36:13 Christopher Barry wrote: > > > follow the below 5 steps for help solving this. > > > > > > [...] > > > for f in $(find /etc/network -type f); do > > >

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
On 13/07/18 13:45, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 13 July 2018 05:08:57 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: On 13/07/18 02:00, Gene Heskett wrote: Thats a direct copy/paste, so whats wrong with that. Other than the fact that its been rebooted twice since the address was changed from 192.168.71.2 to the

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 July 2018 10:09:30 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 13/07/18 13:45, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 13 July 2018 05:08:57 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > >> On 13/07/18 02:00, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Thats a direct copy/paste, so whats wrong with that. Other than > >>> the fact that its

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Alan Corey
Well, nobody did give you the answer in the end because you have a unique perspective on the problem. Sent from my Motorola XT1527 On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 10:27 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 13 July 2018 10:09:30 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > > > On 13/07/18 13:45, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
And the last automatic updates were done on the 7th June- correct? Much stuff that I do these days is based on RPIs which don't use an initrd, but I had to go through this on a PC a few weeks ago after I'd moved some discs around: the old configuration was still stuck in the fstab file loaded

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 July 2018 10:49:10 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > >> And the last automatic updates were done on the 7th June- correct? > >> Much stuff that I do these days is based on RPIs which don't use an > >> initrd, but I had to go through this on a PC a few weeks ago after > >> I'd moved some

Using Alpine on Gmail

2018-07-13 Thread Alan Corey
Enough of that GUI nonsense, in 3 days Thunderbird couldn't index my gmail inbox, or download all the headers, or whatever it was doing. Don't need Firefox or Thunderbird loaded to get to your email either. And high CPU usage to accomplish nothing, just your favorite terminal emulator. This

Re: Using Alpine on Gmail

2018-07-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:16:18AM -0400, Alan Corey wrote: > Enough of that GUI nonsense, in 3 days Thunderbird couldn't index my gmail ^ > inbox, or download all the headers, or whatever it was doing. Here's your

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
On 13/07/18 15:15, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 13 July 2018 10:49:10 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Yes, and route (and ifconfig etc.) is obsolete. But still sometimes useful. And will probably continue to be usefull as long as the man pages for ip and friends continue to suck dead toads thru

Re: missing gw in route -n

2018-07-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 July 2018 14:43:43 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > On 13/07/18 15:15, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 13 July 2018 10:49:10 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > >> Yes, and route (and ifconfig etc.) is obsolete. But still sometimes > >> useful. > > > > And will probably continue to be usefull as