Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Andy Simpkins
On 24/11/2018 02:05, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: Andy: explicitly CCing you because I think it answers part of a question you did but in another part of the thread. El viernes, 23 de noviembre de 2018 06:58:13 -03 Steve McIntyre escribió: On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 03:27:57AM

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi Andy! El sábado, 24 de noviembre de 2018 07:26:34 -03 Andy Simpkins escribió: > On 24/11/2018 02:05, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > Andy: explicitly CCing you because I think it answers part of a question > > you did but in another part of the thread. > > > > El viernes, 23 de

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
Hello Lisandro! > Yes, that's a drawback we are not hiding. Applications needing Desktop OpenGL > would be left out. But... > Sorry, but this is just not acceptable. There has to be another way. > > > If you say that arm64 has to be GLESv2 as well, then that is yet another > > arch that OpenMW

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
> > > > There are more than 5 million Raspberry Pis were sold as of February 2015. > > All of them with a VC4 GPU, Raspbian ships with the VC4 mesa driver > > enabled! > > > > I'm of the opinion that the switch away from Desktop OpenGL to GLES was a > > huge mistake and should be reversed as soon

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
El sábado, 24 de noviembre de 2018 11:23:51 -03 bret curtis escribió: > Hello Lisandro! > > > Yes, that's a drawback we are not hiding. Applications needing Desktop > > OpenGL would be left out. But... > > Sorry, but this is just not acceptable. There has to be another way. > > > > If you say

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 24 November 2018 09:14:48 bret curtis wrote: > > > But even here in this place I have seen *a lot* of "cheap" arm64 > > > boards. Yes, the RPI3[+] is ubiquitous. And having to render Open > > > GL stuff by CPU is precisely not the fastest thing around. > > > > "I have a Raspberry Pi

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 24 November 2018 10:29:08 Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 10:10:04AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > >And the OpenGL driver is of zero use to me until a preemp-rt, or full > >RTAI kernel accompanies it. Once that becomes available, and more > > pi's are in the supply

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 10:10:04AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > >And the OpenGL driver is of zero use to me until a preemp-rt, or full >RTAI kernel accompanies it. Once that becomes available, and more pi's >are in the supply line, you will see an explosion of pi's running cnc >machinery. Why?

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-11-24, Andy Simpkins wrote: > BOTH are possible so why dictate only one? Because it would require two flavours of all users. /Sune

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
> > But even here in this place I have seen *a lot* of "cheap" arm64 boards. > > Yes, > > the RPI3[+] is ubiquitous. And having to render Open GL stuff by CPU is > > precisely not the fastest thing around. > > "I have a Raspberry Pi (or similar mobile class system that > has migrated / is

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Andy Simpkins
On 24/11/18 14:14, bret curtis wrote: >>> But even here in this place I have seen *a lot* of "cheap" arm64 boards. >>> Yes, >>> the RPI3[+] is ubiquitous. And having to render Open GL stuff by CPU is >>> precisely not the fastest thing around. >> >> "I have a Raspberry Pi (or similar mobile

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 08:36:11 PM bret curtis wrote: > > > There are more than 5 million Raspberry Pis were sold as of February > > > 2015. > > > All of them with a VC4 GPU, Raspbian ships with the VC4 mesa driver > > > enabled! > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that the switch away from

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 24 November 2018 14:36:11 bret curtis wrote: > > > There are more than 5 million Raspberry Pis were sold as of > > > February 2015. All of them with a VC4 GPU, Raspbian ships with the > > > VC4 mesa driver enabled! > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that the switch away from Desktop

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
Hey Scott, On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:01 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 08:36:11 PM bret curtis wrote: > > We have a Rasberry Pi working as a desktop here at my house. It's quite > usable as long as you only try to do a few things at a time, but it's not by > any