Re: Bits from the Debian Pure Blends Team

2009-03-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Freitag, 20. März 2009, Andreas Tille wrote: > The new locations of the auto generated pages for the existing > Blends are: Nice! One suggestion though: currently you calculated the bugginess of a metapackage by the number of bugs their depnds have. I'd suggest to divide that by

Re: Bits from the Debian Pure Blends Team

2009-03-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Samstag, 21. März 2009, Andreas Tille wrote: > > One suggestion though: currently you calculated the bugginess of a > > metapackage by the number of bugs their depnds have. I'd suggest to > > divide that by the number of packages that metapackage depends on :-) > to regard. Please

Re: Bits from the Debian Pure Blends Team

2009-03-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sonntag, 22. März 2009, Andreas Tille wrote: > suggestion. If I remember right we decided that the absulute measure > just attracts people who want to find a job to do - which is > finally the sense of the bugs pages. I dont think that a status of 2000 open bugs for this metapackage attra

Re: Bits from the Debian Pure Blends Team

2009-03-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 23. März 2009, Andreas Tille wrote: > Editing > alioth:/srv/alioth.debian.org/chroot/home/groups/blends/htdocs/edu/index.ht >ml a.) is this documented somewhere? b.) editing files not in a VCS is a waste of time ;-) > If you are interested in detail we should talk about this imple

Re: Changes in code to create debian/control + tasks.desc file

2009-04-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 10. April 2009, Andreas Tille wrote: > Warning: post-commit hook failed (exit code 255) with no output. > and there is no mail send to the commit list. But this only seems > to be true for me. Other commits to the list trigger an e-mail. > So any help to fix this is very welc

Bug#554261: please (re-)create debian/control per default (Re: debian-edu build process, once more)

2009-11-03 Thread Holger Levsen
package: blends x-debbugs-cc: debian-...@lists.debian.org Hi, On Montag, 2. November 2009, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:34:42PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > > I think foolproofness is more important today, given that almost all > > developers have broa

Customized Blends

2009-11-12 Thread Holger Levsen
it's for their own benefit to contribute back. Minimising the diff to a "real" pure Blend is good :-) [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/11/msg1.html -- Holger Levsen Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:25:26 +0100 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Removing apt from debian installer

2010-02-26 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2010, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Please beware that this list - debian-blends - is for discussions about > "Pure Debian Blends" which is completely and purely Debian internalised > environments, not customizations based on but deriving (even the > slightest) away from

Re: Could be considered a *Debian Blend* a CDD with packages from diferent repos

2010-04-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Walber, On Montag, 26. April 2010, Walber Zaldivar Herrera wrote: > I'm working on SiXdeb a project from a group of cuban folks to generate > Cuba oriented Debian Blends or CDDs. We have a doubt: could be > considered a *Debian Blend* a CDD with packages from diferent repos? Sure! It's a Debi

Re: Could be considered a *Debian Blend* a CDD with packages from diferent repos

2010-05-19 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 19. Mai 2010, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > If indeed activated by default in official releases, then > debian-volatile packages targeted those releases are pure. they are. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: New sections

2011-12-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2011, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 01:46:58PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > education, which is for education related tools that don't fit better > > metapackages, which is for metapackages so that apt can do special > Where would you like to see th

Re: Skolelinux/Debian Edu developer gathering in Oslo, Norway, February 10-12.

2012-01-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Olav, On Freitag, 27. Januar 2012, Olav Dahlum wrote: > Due to safety guidelines and restrictions, the conference room have limited > space, so contact one of us to make sure there's a spot for you as well. > Contact information and schedule are available at > http://friprogramvareiskolen.no/Ga

Re: Bug#311188: Draft proposal for handling configuration file manipulations in Debian blends

2012-01-31 Thread Holger Levsen
On Dienstag, 31. Januar 2012, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Should we not address this approach (blend bugs = RC critical bugs -> > make NMUing possible) on debian-devel ML? NMUs are also possible for non-rc bugs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-blends-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: Moving information from tasks files into Vcs

2012-06-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, wouldnt it be better to do this after the freeze+release of wheezy? Or is this your plan? cheers, Holger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-blends-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.

Re: Switching from SVN to Git

2012-10-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2012, Andreas Tille wrote: > anyway and so I consider switching the Blends repository from SVN to > Git. yay! > 1. git://git.debian.org/git/debian-blends/blends.git > Repository for the blends source package as a clone of > current svn://svn.de

Re: Bits of Debian Blends

2013-04-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Mittwoch, 24. April 2013, Andreas Tille wrote: > 6. Blends Metapackages in Wheezy > > > All sets of metapackages for Blends targeting at Wheezy arrived in > testing: > > debian-edu: 1.702 what's the point of this statement? I seriously wond

Re: Bits of Debian Blends

2013-04-25 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 24. April 2013, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > All sets of metapackages for Blends targeting at Wheezy arrived in > > > testing: > > > debian-edu: 1.702 > Currently 1.702 *is* in testing and as far as I have understood release > team they do not like any further unblocks. drawi

Re: blends news for the wheezy press release?

2013-05-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Donnerstag, 2. Mai 2013, Paul Wise wrote: > The draft wheezy press release has this item in it: > > [Debian Blends news] ... > > Could someone review the changes since squeeze and come up with some > things that users might be interested in? Debian Edu is working on it's Wheezy release

Bug#708879: should delete boilerplate-only maintainer scripts

2013-05-19 Thread Holger Levsen
package: blends-dev version: 0.6.16.2 affects: debian-edu Hi, blends-dev creates boilerplate maintainer scripts, which then lead to lintian warnings for the packages using blends-dev, ie debian-edu 1.707 has the following lintian warnings: debian-edu changes binary: bad-distribution-in-changes

Re: Bug#720199: section: metapackage for debian-edu packages (Re: Bug#719951: general: Autoremove Wants to remove Entire system)

2013-08-21 Thread Holger Levsen
clone 720199 -1 reassign -1 blends-dev retitle metapackages should be put into the metapackages section thanks Hi Andreas, On Mittwoch, 21. August 2013, Andreas Tille wrote: > that's an interesting issue you are reporting here. IMHO it should be > rather filed against blends-dev. IMHO we shoul

Re: Do tools &/or instructions exist?

2013-08-30 Thread Holger Levsen
On Freitag, 30. August 2013, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > I disagree strongly about that: Blends is about emphasizing how Debian > is flexible and can be optimal for *some* things to *some* people *some* > of the time. Not only making it so, but also emphasizing what is > already so. > > Let me repe

Re: Debian OTR team

2014-04-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Donnerstag, 3. April 2014, Andreas Tille wrote: > I'd recommend using the Blends framework to assemble the according OTR > software. I think you misunderstood the purpose of the OTR packaging team, which has the goal of maintaining packages from the OTR universe. We don't want to

Re: Please be verbose whether you would like to get your Blend promoted by tasksel

2014-08-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 27. August 2014, Mike Gabriel wrote: > I guess this only makes sense if a Debian Edu machine (standalone) can > be installed via Debian's normal D-I, right? why? and why limit this to stabalone? cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed mess

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-15 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 14. Oktober 2014, Andreas Tille wrote: > While this "no" means: There exist 1 or 2 Blends focussing on a > specific desktop environment (as far as I know Debian Edu and Ezgo) but Debian Edu offers you the documented choices between KDE Plasma (default), Gnome, Mate, Xfce4, LXDE

Bug#766289: http://blends.debian.net/edu/bugs/ misses education-desktop-mate

2014-10-21 Thread Holger Levsen
package: blends-dev Hi Andreas, this is probably not a bug in the blends-dev package, but who knows ;) http://blends.debian.net/edu/bugs/ misses the education-desktop-mate metapackage which was introduced in jessie. cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally sign

Bug#766289: [HELP] Re: Bug#766289: http://blends.debian.net/edu/bugs/ misses education-desktop-mate

2014-10-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Donnerstag, 23. Oktober 2014, Andreas Tille wrote: > If you do not like the situation that the Debian Edu entry page is > refering to a broken / outdated link I'd recommend reading... well, I certainly don't like outdated / broken information, so I reported this bug. And here it e

Bug#720416: Closed in version 0.6.92

2014-10-28 Thread Holger Levsen
control: fixed -1 0.6.92 Hi, On Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014, Andreas Tille wrote: > this bug was closed in version 0.6.92 but the changelog was lacking an > according Closes statement. closing it properly then :) cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed mes

Re: Boxer

2014-10-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014, Andreas Tille wrote: > It is not important for me. I was just wondering why you might create > extra work for potential co-workers from the Blends team to join an > additional team. Did you set at least ACLs for DDs? with git^wdistributed VCSs you don't really

Re: Motivation to work on Blends

2014-10-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014, Andreas Tille wrote: > two recent threads on this list made me wonder whether my motivation > to work on Blends was well described. I think it would be helpful to distinguish two things: the work on Blends and the work on blends-dev. Personally, I am i

Bug#758116: Allow to select Blends selection during installation - just "DE", "Web server", "Mail server" is NOT enough

2016-05-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, two more ideas from irc: < pabs> KiBi, tbm: re blends/desktops stuff, what about showing that only in expert mode? < h01ger> or a dedicated image, which uses a kernel cmdline param to enable blends-mode… -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital sign

Bug#825004: blends-dev: undesired new Task $blend-all package

2016-05-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: blends-dev Version: 0.6.93 Severity: important Hi, since 0.6.93 blends-dev creates a new $blend-all package which is *not* useful for all blends, so there should be a way to disable that. In the case of debian-edu it creates an education-all package which depends on packages which confl

#793667: forced depends (instead of recommends) using blends-dev (was gosa-plugin-netgroups not pulled-in when upgrading from Debian Edu squeeze mainserver)

2016-05-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 06:30:39PM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: > The relevant gosa-plugin* pks should go into Depends: of education-mainserver > task/bin:pkg. IMHO. I'm not sure we can do this using the blends-dev package. Background for the blends developers: The debian-edu source package

Re: #793667: forced depends (instead of recommends) using blends-dev (was gosa-plugin-netgroups not pulled-in when upgrading from Debian Edu squeeze mainserver)

2016-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:51:51AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > You can do this with the attached patch overriding the dist target to > afterwards change the d/control file. Feel free to `git am` into the > repository. thanks for the patch, though #825004 has broken the "dist" targe

Bug#825004: blends-dev: undesired new Task $blend-all package

2016-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Ole, adding the debian-edu list to cc: (and keeping more context quoted) as this is quite relevant for us… On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 09:02:36PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > Hi Holger, > > Am 22.05.2016 um 12:45 schrieb Holger Levsen: > > since 0.6.93 blends-dev creates a

Bug#825161: blends-dev: please introduce something like compat level

2016-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
package: blends-dev severity: wishlist version: 0.6.16.2 Hi, debhelper uses a nice thing called compat level, which has to be set in each source package. So if compat is set to 9, $these features are enabled, and if compat is set to 10, $these features *and* $those are enabled. (eg dbgsym package

Re: Bug#793667: #793667: forced depends (instead of recommends) using blends-dev (was gosa-plugin-netgroups not pulled-in when upgrading from Debian Edu squeeze mainserver)

2016-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
control: block 793667 by 825004 thanks On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 07:53:05AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > thanks for the patch, though #825004 has broken the "dist" target for us > in sid… > > I'll think whether I want to use this to fix this issue (#793667) in jessie &

Bug#825004: workaround for src:debian-edu for 825004 (was Re: Bug#793667: #793667: forced depends (instead of recommends) using blends-dev (was gosa-plugin-netgroups not pulled-in when upgrading from

2016-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:50:30AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Depending how fast you need a solution you could easily add another sed > call in the new dist target to work around #825004. Feel free to ask me > for another patch. That would be much appreciated indeed. (Aka: Could

Re: Bug#825004: workaround for src:debian-edu for 825004 (was Re: Bug#793667: #793667: forced depends (instead of recommends) using blends-dev (was gosa-plugin-netgroups not pulled-in when upgrading f

2016-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas, On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:24:26PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > That would be much appreciated indeed. (Aka: Could you please give us > > such a patch?!) > Commited to Git. thanks. I've seen you also added a "closes: 825004" to our debian/changelog, which I've rewritten to "worka

Bug#825172: blends-dev: please provide a way to create true depends]

2016-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
package: blends-dev severity: wishlist version: 0.6.16.2 x-debbugs-cc: debian-...@lists.debian.org Hi, to fix #793667 Andreas Tille kindly implemented this solution in src:debian-edu's Makefile: dist: # the next two lines are taken from the original dist target # from blends-dev

Re: Bug#825004: workaround for src:debian-edu for 825004 (was Re: Bug#793667: #793667: forced depends (instead of recommends) using blends-dev (was gosa-plugin-netgroups not pulled-in when upgrading f

2016-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 01:42:48PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I've seen Ole busy commiting changes to Git in the direction of > fixing this. :-) oh, cool, looking forward to those! :) thanks! -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Bug#825004: blends-dev: undesired new Task $blend-all package

2016-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Ole, On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:33:20AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > The current solution is to opt-out the tasks that shall not be there. As > I said, this may be easily changed to opt-in, and then create the -all > package if there was *any* opt-in package. emphasise on "current solution"…

Bug#473890: blends-dev should support reportbug better

2016-06-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, sorry for the silent reassign this bug… > > reassign 473890 blends-dev > Bug #473890 [debian-edu] provide hooks for reportbug via dh-buildinfo to ease > debugging the bug history explain nicely why this would be useful and how it should be done… -- cheers, Holger signature.asc

Bug#825172: any update on this bug ("please provide a way to create true depends")

2016-07-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, any update on this? Due to this bug (or rather Andreas' workaround for it in our debian-edu package) we are receiving two mails every day since two months… :( -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#825172: any update on this bug ("please provide a way to create true depends")

2016-07-10 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 02:58:10PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Wouldn't it be the most simple solution to simply add a grep -v to your > cron job to silence this mail. > The solution you are asking for is quite > complex, needs thorrough thinking and adjustments in all Blends, while a > simple f

Bug#833303: blends-dev: please don't create prerm scripts which lintian complains about

2016-08-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: blends-dev Version: 0.6.93 Severity: normal Hi, tracker.d.o/debian-edu tells me the debian-edu has 21 lintian warnings, which can be found at https://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/debian-...@lists.debian.org.html#debian-edu and which are all education-astronomy W command-with-pa

Bug#845760: blends-dev: please use (= ${source:Version}) for generated arch:all depends

2016-11-26 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: blends-dev Version: 0.6.94 Severity: normal Hi, please use (= ${source:Version}) for generated arch:all depends so that binNMUs don't cause uninstallable packages. For src:debian-edu we've worked around this by this sed command (which does more than this) in our Makefile: sed -

Bug#845762: blends-dev: please add ${misc:Depends} to all generated binary packages when using debhelper

2016-11-26 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: blends-dev Version: 0.6.94 Severity: normal Hi, please add ${misc:Depends} to all generated binary packages if debhelper is used to build the package in question. Debhelper might add maintainer scripts which need certain depends, and in such cases debhelper will populate ${misc:Depends}

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must be priority:standard and not make a mess out of tasksel menu

2016-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Source: blends Version: 0.6.94 Severity: serious Tags: d-i Justification: Policy 2.5 and breaking another package Hi, I'm sorry, but the current implementation of installing Blends from Debian images is simply not acceptable, as in, it completely breaks the UI of debian-installer thus the severit

Bug#846003: debian-cd: please provide different flavor/spins of netinst images

2016-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: debian-cd Version: 3.1.18 Severity: wishlist Tags: d-i Hi, as a followup to #846002: How to allow Debian blends be installed easily from official Debian media? My idea to implement official Debian which can be used to install blends is to introduce "flavors" (or spins or whatever, jus

Bug#846005: debian-cd: please provide flavor/spin netinst image with blends-tasks installed

2016-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: debian-cd Version: 3.1.18 Severity: wishlist Tags: d-i affects: blends-tasks Hi, as a followup to #846002 and #846003, please provide a flavor/spin netinst image with blends-tasks installed. #846003 has the implementation details, this bug is for tracking the installable media with blend

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must be priority:standard and not make a mess out of tasksel menu

2016-11-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Andreas (& Ole), On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 05:04:31PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > I wonder what your opinion about the two existing answers might be. You > requested a discussion about your proposed patch but you did not took > part in the last 36 hours. > > I hope you are fine and kind regar

Bug#846002: Lowering severity

2016-12-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:58:03AM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote: > Control: Severity -1 normal > > Since no objections against my proposal were expressed for a week, I am > lowering the severity. > > Since there is no update of the bug report with more recent experiences, > I will to close it as of

Bug#846002: blends-dev must not be "priority: important" - was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity

2016-12-05 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 846002 tech-ctte thanks On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:58:03AM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote: > Control: Severity -1 normal src:blends 0.6.93 uploaded on 09 Apr 2016 introduced a new binary package, blends-dev, with "priority: important", causing it to be installed on *all* systems by debootstr

Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)

2016-12-05 Thread Holger Levsen
control: reassign -1 tech-ctte control: retitle -1 blends-tasks must not be priority:important thanks On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:43:18AM -0600, Don Armstrong wrote: > if either of you disagree (or anyone else on the CTTE > disagrees) and still want the CTTE to resolve this (slowly), feel free > to

Bug#825172: blends-dev: please provide a way to create true depends]

2017-08-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 06:23:25PM +, Mike Gabriel wrote: > blends 0.6.99 has now been uploaded, however the bug closure was forgotten > in the changelog stanza (I'll add that post-upload for documentation > purposes). great, thanks to everyone involved! -- cheers, Holger signatur

Bug#900418: blends-dev: http://blends.alioth.debian.org/blends/ has been moved where?

2018-05-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: blends-dev Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, http://blends.alioth.debian.org/blends/ap-DevelDescription.en.html has been moved where to? It's referenced in src:debian-edu/debian/README.source. -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#903292: blends-dev must depend on bc

2018-07-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: blends-dev Version: 0.7.0 Severity: important Dear Maintainer, after upgrading to blends-dev 0.7.0 I got this when trying to run "make dist" in debian-edu.git…: debian-work:~/Projects/debian-edu/git/debian-edu$ schroot make dist /bin/sh: 1: bc: not found expr: syntax error rm -f debian-

Re: Reorganisation of www.debian.org: Please provide information about your Blend

2019-07-22 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 03:48:41AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > To find out what Blend should be considered as active I proposed to > write this e-mail to the main communication channel and ask the > developers of the Blend to confirm they consider themselves an active > Blend and will provide mor