cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap by dwhedon

2001-05-15 Thread dwhedon
Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap who:dwhedon time: Mon May 14 23:47:13 PDT 2001 Log Message: break up mirror info for base_config Files: changed:extract_base.c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:26:44AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:05:03PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: I don't know if it is possible to enable such a per subarch warning (altough it may be common the the m68K/amiga folk). Floppys on m68k are completely

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:26:44AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:05:03PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: I don't know if it is possible to enable such a per subarch warning (altough it may be common the the m68K/amiga

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Alan Buxey
hi, #if cpu(sparc) || #cpu(powerpc) const char *fs_type_tab[] = { ext2, NULL }; #else const char *fs_type_tab[] = { msdos, ext2, NULL }; #endif as you can understand is impossible for a powerpc machine to load a msdos partition, so i have modified it so: #if

Re: boot-floppies 2.2.25 with i386 2.2.19 upgrade

2001-05-15 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 09:02:23PM -0400, Brian Schramm wrote: That is not right. Please understand, I cannot see the hard drives because the scsi controler is not being loaded on boot. That means that Configure Device Driver Modules will not work. I have no drives at this time. But you

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:19:33AM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: hi, #if cpu(sparc) || #cpu(powerpc) const char *fs_type_tab[] = { ext2, NULL }; #else const char *fs_type_tab[] = { msdos, ext2, NULL }; #endif as you can understand is impossible for a powerpc

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:11:38AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:26:44AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:05:03PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: I don't know if it is possible to enable

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Alan Buxey
hi, Can you boot from an external 1.76MB floppy ? yes. its treated just as the old classic external floppies that I'm sure most people had with their A500's but 1.76MB floppies would be easily supported, almost nothing needs to be changed, apart from the rescue disk creation. Does someone

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:11:38AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: You cannot boot from 1.4 MB floppies, only from 880 kB or 1760 kB floppies. Well, ok no problem, just make a tarball that can be copied to

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Michel Dänzer
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:11:38AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: You cannot boot from 1.4 MB floppies, only from 880 kB or 1760 kB floppies. Well, ok no problem, just make a

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Alan Buxey
hi, My 2.4.4 zImage is only 458036 bytes long. I have lots of modules, but it could work. I remember I once did. custom images targetted for each APUS environment might be squeezed in. alan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote: Also, is there a way (under linux) to detect if the floppy is of the 1.76 or the 880 variety ? dont know - I always believe that floppies are too dumb..you only know what you can do when things you try fail ;-) grep FD_HD_3

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote: My 2.4.4 zImage is only 458036 bytes long. I have lots of modules, but it could work. I remember I once did. custom images targetted for each APUS environment might be squeezed in. Oh yes, this was an m68k image. APUS images are probably quite

Boot-floppies 2.2.25 Test Report

2001-05-15 Thread James Rodgers
Configuration: 1. Gateway PC with Intel Pentium III processor 2. 192 Mb ram 3. IDE boot disk 4. 3com 3c595 ethernet card with 4mm dat tape drive 5. AHA 2940 SCSI adapter Booted from rescue floppy. Loaded NFS and 3c595 modules,

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:57:11AM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: hi, Can you boot from an external 1.76MB floppy ? yes. its treated just as the old classic external floppies that I'm sure most people had with their A500's but 1.76MB floppies would be easily supported, almost nothing

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 01:36:19PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Alan Buxey wrote: Also, is there a way (under linux) to detect if the floppy is of the 1.76 or the 880 variety ? dont know - I always believe that floppies are too dumb..you only know what you

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:59:21PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:11:38AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: You cannot boot from 1.4 MB floppies, only from 880 kB or 1760 kB

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 01:26:52PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:11:38AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: You cannot boot from 1.4 MB floppies, only

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 02:45:28PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:57:11AM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: hi, Can you boot from an external 1.76MB floppy ? yes. its treated just as the old classic external floppies that I'm sure most people had with their A500's

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 08:20:48AM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 02:45:28PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 11:57:11AM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: hi, Can you boot from an external 1.76MB floppy ? yes. its treated just as the old

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Alan Buxey
hi, What is the size of the 2.4.x kernel compared to the 2.2.10 one ? bigger, I recall 2.4.4 being over 3Mb (compared to 2.2.10 being just over 2.1Mb) alan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Alan Buxey
hi, Don't you need some part of AmigaOS to make a floppy bootable? no, and yes. Under AmigaOS you run 'install df0:' but this doesnt put any files onto the disk as such, it just writes a bootblock (a few hundred bytes) to the floppy. Theres no reason why we couldnt have an AmigaOS bootblock

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Alan Buxey
hi, And did you have the same amount of stuff in it ? these are the standard downloadables from APUS@sourceforge they have pretty much the same functionality. I guess there are many features that can be cut out of 2.4.4 (but most stuff, such as khttpd are as modules already) alan -- To

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:05:01PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: hi, What is the size of the 2.4.x kernel compared to the 2.2.10 one ? bigger, I recall 2.4.4 being over 3Mb (compared to 2.2.10 being just over 2.1Mb) What about gzipped kernels ? And did you have the same amount of stuff in

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:15:14PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: hi, Don't you need some part of AmigaOS to make a floppy bootable? no, and yes. Under AmigaOS you run 'install df0:' but this doesnt put any files onto the disk as such, it just writes a bootblock (a few hundred bytes) to the

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:17:52PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: hi, And did you have the same amount of stuff in it ? these are the standard downloadables from APUS@sourceforge they have pretty much the same functionality. I guess there are many features that can be cut out of 2.4.4

Re: base-config cruft cleanup

2001-05-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well the form I want it in is the correct form. ll is not a valid language code setting, ll_LL is. Ok -- are you saying dbootstrap *must* set it in the xx_YY form? But I had been thinking that the boot-floppies were possibly setting this in

debootstrap for ppc

2001-05-15 Thread Stephen R Marenka
It appears that debootstrap still isn't available in either unstable or testing for ppc. It certainly builds easy enough. I've poked through http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ but I haven't seen anything explaining why not. Where else should I look? It seems that

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:23:38PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: not that i can think of. certainly boot-programs (such as the APUS/AF-booter (by Mr Duncan ) need MUI libraries, but the plain boothack/bootstrap for APUS just needs powerpc.library, which is in ROM I don't use APUS, plain old

Re: tasks: counterproposal (and implimentation)

2001-05-15 Thread Joey Hess
Branden Robinson wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:05:22PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: - With package sets, it is delivered ... ? In a package called package-sets-progeny, and manipulated via binaries in the packages pkgset-tools and pkgset-tools-gnome. Ok, then this has basically the same

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:15:14PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: Don't you need some part of AmigaOS to make a floppy bootable? no, and yes. Under AmigaOS you run 'install df0:' but this doesnt put any files onto the disk as such, it just writes a

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:17:52PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: And did you have the same amount of stuff in it ? these are the standard downloadables from APUS@sourceforge they have pretty much the same functionality. I guess there are many

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Christian T. Steigies wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:23:38PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: not that i can think of. certainly boot-programs (such as the APUS/AF-booter (by Mr Duncan ) need MUI libraries, but the plain boothack/bootstrap for APUS just needs

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:49:26PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:15:14PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: Don't you need some part of AmigaOS to make a floppy bootable? no, and yes. Under AmigaOS you run 'install df0:'

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:50:29PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sven LUTHER wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:17:52PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: And did you have the same amount of stuff in it ? these are the standard downloadables from APUS@sourceforge

Re: base-config cruft cleanup

2001-05-15 Thread Joey Hess
peter karlsson wrote: It is indeed valid to specify a language code without a qualifier, for my LANG setting, I always use sv, whereas I have sv_SE.ISO8859-1 set for my LC_ALL. When it comes to the language settings (LANG, LC_MESSAGES), most languaegs don't need a qualifier at all, since

Re: base-config cruft cleanup

2001-05-15 Thread Joey Hess
Adam Di Carlo wrote: Ok -- are you saying dbootstrap *must* set it in the xx_YY form? Well, I know that just the ll form is going to cause breakage. There are certianly other forms that arn't ll_LL that do not, but that seems easiest. Should I change it to do something? What? It should be

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Alan Buxey
hi, no, and yes. Under AmigaOS you run 'install df0:' but this doesnt put any files onto the disk as such, it just writes a bootblock (a few hundred bytes) to the floppy. Theres no reason why we couldnt have an AmigaOS bootblock and write it to disk with 'dd' but you do get access

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Alan Buxey
hi, But the bootblock is code. Of course we can reverse engineer and clean room reimplement one (IIRC it justs opens dos.library and returns 1 or 0). over 10,000 coders have made their own bootblocks for Amiga floppies...either commercial games or demo disks. some even got sine-scrolling

Rogativa desde Bolsa de Valencia

2001-05-15 Thread Webmaster
Estimados Sres: Desde la dirección 194.98.93.142 (algo sobre "debian y apache", ver página web anexa) se realizan varios intentos diarios, presumiblemente de modo automático, de contactar con nosotros por métodos no permitidos en nuestra empresa, e ignorando la conexión que existe entre

Rogativa desde Bolsa de Valencia

2001-05-15 Thread Webmaster
Estimados Sres: Desde la dirección 194.98.93.142 (algo sobre "debian y apache", ver página web anexa) se realizan varios intentos diarios, presumiblemente de modo automático, de contactar con nosotros por métodos no permitidos en nuestra empresa, e ignorando la conexión que existe entre

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Alan Buxey
hi, mmm, they are not really difficult to do, i remember writting my own split programs, because non where availabel back then. /me thinks there are several free clones of join/split on aminet (altough not test them). The only real problem is the choice program, but if you only want the

Re: debootstrap for ppc

2001-05-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 09:40:55AM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: It appears that debootstrap still isn't available in either unstable or testing for ppc. It certainly builds easy enough. I've poked through http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/ but I haven't seen anything explaining why

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:19:14PM +0100, Alan Buxey wrote: hi, mmm, they are not really difficult to do, i remember writting my own split programs, because non where availabel back then. /me thinks there are several free clones of join/split on aminet It's trivial to write, just some

Bug#97574: Debian 'stable' install assumes color monitor

2001-05-15 Thread Adam Conrad
Try linux video=vc:8 (There's help for it at the boot prompt.. Somewhere in special hardware or something like that if you want to boot without the framebuffer console) -Original Message- From: Emiliano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Giorgio Terzi
Hello Christian, hello all, ... Floppys on m68k are completely useless AFAIK. Since Amigalilo is not supported by Debian, who needs floppies anyways when everything comes on CD? I have loaded from floppies the images i have put on them only for the sake of test! I have not bootstrapped

Re: APUS Debian Boot-Floppies Images and bugs

2001-05-15 Thread Duncan Gibb
On 15-May-01, Alan Buxey wrote: AB certainly boot-programs (such as the APUS/AF-booter (by Mr Duncan ) AB need MUI libraries, but the plain boothack/bootstrap for APUS just AB needs powerpc.library, which is in ROM Evening, Dr Buxley. That MUI-GUI is aeons out of date now, and really wants

Re: debootstrap for ppc

2001-05-15 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:29:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 09:40:55AM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote: Because no one's built it at all yet. The powerpc build daemon logs would be a good choice to look, except that the powerpc build daemon is moving at the moment.

Re: debootstrap for ppc

2001-05-15 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Stephen R Marenka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20010515 12:57]: It seems that http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages is a bit too i386-centric. It's entirely i386-centric. So if I want to change that, where do I start? whom do I annoy? Hmmm, if I remember correctly I implemented a fix

Booting PPC/Nubus

2001-05-15 Thread Fritz Jetzek
Hi - I'm in the somewhat frustrating situation of having to install Debian on a Powerbook 1400cs, which is a Nubus machine (and therefore not yet supported by Debian). To make things worse, it does not have a cdrom drive, just a serial connection to a Debian-PPC oldworld G3. I have found that

Re: Booting PPC/Nubus

2001-05-15 Thread Stephen R Marenka
boot-floppy-hfs.img is one of the set of installation disks, the lastest potato version can be found at the following: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-powerpc/current/powermac/images-1.44/ The current CVS boot-floppies are woody and are not yet ready for primetime. In

cvs commit to tasksel/po by op

2001-05-15 Thread op
Repository: tasksel/po who:op time: Tue May 15 13:15:26 PDT 2001 Log Message: Updated German Translation Files: changed:de.po -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Booting PPC/Nubus

2001-05-15 Thread Fritz Jetzek
boot-floppy-hfs.img is one of the set of installation disks, the lastest potato version can be found at the following: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-powerpc/current/powermac/images-1.44/ The current CVS boot-floppies are woody and are not yet ready for

Re: Rogativa desde Bolsa de Valencia

2001-05-15 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
Hola! Desde la dirección 194.98.93.142 (algo sobre debian y apache, ver página web anexa) se realizan varios intentos diarios, presumiblemente de modo He estado mirando dicha página y parece una máquina con la distribución Debian GNU/Linux, pero que no tiene nada que ver, al menos que yo

Bug#97574: Debian 'stable' install assumes color monitor

2001-05-15 Thread Emiliano
Package: boot-floppies Version: stable architecture: i386 memory:64MB scsi: no cd-rom:none network card: ne2000 compatible pcmcia:none Adam Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try linux video=vc:8 (There's help for it at the boot prompt.. Somewhere in

Re: Rogativa desde Bolsa de Valencia

2001-05-15 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
Hi! About this stuff, the guys at 194.98.93.142 seem to be accesing some stuff of this spanish site, and the apache placeholder has put them in our way, I have replied to them in the message sent also to the list that debian has nothing to do with that machine (atlas.brainstorm.fr) and that they

Re: base-config cruft cleanup

2001-05-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:57:37AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Also, for cdrom installs, and maybe for file:/ installs, the sources.list debootstrap writes may well be broken. :( Ugh. Then apt-setup will need to test it and comment it out if it's broken. Or is this something fixable in

cvs commit to base-config/debian by joeyh

2001-05-15 Thread joeyh
Repository: base-config/debian who:joeyh time: Tue May 15 18:23:30 PDT 2001 Log Message: * Properly translate /usr/share/debconf/templates/apt-setup-templates (see #95487). Also, don't include the apt-setup templates in the main templates file, since that just wastes

Re: base-config cruft cleanup

2001-05-15 Thread peter karlsson
Joey Hess: Don't you get tired of seeing those messages everywhere? Well, they are overridden by my LC_ALL setting (sv_SE.ISO8859-1). However, LANG=sv is a correct setting, setting LANG to sv_SE is just stupid, because there's no difference in the *written language* between the two locales

Re: woody release task needs help: package priorities

2001-05-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Vince Mulhollon | On 05/15/2001 08:00:09 AM exa wrote: | | What about closing all the ports by default? The user can open them by | himself if he wants to anyway. Security fans would really be happy then. | | Still have the vulnerable, exploitable binaries. All you have to do it get |

Re: woody release task needs help: package priorities

2001-05-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:00:09PM +0300, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: I sometimes have the feeling that too much security is breaking many convenient features. It would be wrong to put in a program with known vulnerabilities, but except that I don't see why you would want to remove useful small

Re: woody release task needs help: package priorities

2001-05-15 Thread Vince Mulhollon
On 05/15/2001 08:00:09 AM exa wrote: What about closing all the ports by default? The user can open them by himself if he wants to anyway. Security fans would really be happy then. Still have the vulnerable, exploitable binaries. All you have to do it get root and open the talkd ports once,

Re: woody release task needs help: package priorities

2001-05-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:28:37PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: You are assuming that talkd have buffer overflows, but you have no proof of it. Of course a reasonably paranoid person would assume that buffer overflows exist and mitigate the risk as appropriate. Unless you can *prove* that

Re: woody release task needs help: package priorities

2001-05-15 Thread Vince Mulhollon
On 05/15/2001 09:28:37 AM tfheen wrote: You are assuming that talkd have buffer overflows, but you have no proof of it. And talk is rwxr-xr-x, so what would you win by an overflow on a local host? And I doubt that there are many bugs in a daemon which is less than 10k big. Perhaps it's

Re: woody release task needs help: package priorities

2001-05-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tollef Fog Heen wrote: You are assuming that talkd have buffer overflows, but you have no proof of it. And talk is rwxr-xr-x, so what would you win by an overflow on a local host? And I doubt that there are many bugs in a daemon which is less than 10k big. Security works the

Re: woody release task needs help: package priorities

2001-05-15 Thread Eray Ozkural (exa)
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Michael Stone | On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 01:08:17PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | |talk rather obsolete, but debatable | |talkd not very secure for baseline | | I want those. They are very useful, and afaik, there are no security

Re: woody release task needs help: package priorities

2001-05-15 Thread Eray Ozkural (exa)
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Emacs is not `the standard editor', it is just one of the two most popular ones. More importantly, we need an editor in the b-f that everyone can use easily without having to know emacs, vi or any other editor. The first thing I involuntarily discovered in vi was the