Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 May 2006 11:44, Geert Stappers wrote: Keep the current d-i images as they exist and add extra images for g-i. That would lead to an explosion of the number of images though which is not what we or the debian-cd team wants. The full CD will most likely match the netinst-gui.iso.

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 May 2006 12:18, Sven Luther wrote: It is usefull to keep those images relatively small, but given their current size, growing from 250 to 300 MB or whatever it is, will probably pass un-noticed. Right. That issue does not really apply to ppc as, as you say, the businesscard and

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:34:27AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Monday 15 May 2006 23:40, Sven Luther wrote: That said, another important point is, will we be using a separate gtk-dfb 2.9/2.10 package set, or will we be using the main gtk debian package ? In this second case, are the

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 May 2006 15:32, Davide Viti wrote: I did one hour ago or so and it booted fine Hmm. I'm guessing that you've tried the mini.iso, and not one of the larger images as they indeed were completely broken. Will hopefully be fixed with the next build. pgpmBoqIwYQSc.pgp Description:

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 May 2006 14:33, Sven Luther wrote: (and we can't probably change it without another 6+ month flamewar with Ethan Benson), This comment was unnecessary. Please keep old gripes out of mailing list discussions. Especially as everybody is already aware of them. For all those

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:34:27AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: That said, another important point is, will we be using a separate gtk-dfb 2.9/2.10 package set, or will we be using the main gtk debian package ? In this second case, are the gtk-gnome folk ready to move to gtk 2.10 for etch ?

Re: partman-crypto: dm-crypt status update

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 May 2006 21:59, David Härdeman wrote: The only known bug so far is that the /target filesystem isn't cleanly unmounted when it's on an encrypted partition. Any suggestions on where to start looking? Well, the installer just runs 'umount -a' in prebaseconfig's [1] 95umount script.

Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:17:10AM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 23:53 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 04:01:17PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 15:28 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: What framebuffer is used ? atyfb probably ?

Re: PowerPC request for help

2006-05-16 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 07:29:39PM -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: On Thu, 11 May 2006 22:28:39 +0200 Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ... ] If you would like commit access to the d-i SVN repository, please let us know your alioth account name. alioth is http://alioth.debian.org

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 08:11, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Eh, if you want to do gtk-dfb, you can't. The choice between using the DirectFB backend or the X11 backend has to be done at compile time. Or am I missing something? No, you're not. This is an issue and it's going to take some advanced

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:05:08AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Sunday 14 May 2006 11:44, Geert Stappers wrote: Keep the current d-i images as they exist and add extra images for g-i. That would lead to an explosion of the number of images though which is not what we or the debian-cd team

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all those reasons, i would build the netboot g-i images, it costs not much to build them, and since they are not going to be included on the isos ... I will leave the decision on whether or not to include netboot images to Colin. Technically

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:09:36AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Sunday 14 May 2006 12:18, Sven Luther wrote: It is usefull to keep those images relatively small, but given their current size, growing from 250 to 300 MB or whatever it is, will probably pass un-noticed. Right. That issue

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:11:12AM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote: So, will you disable them, or should I try to test your images, too ? (it seems to me that there shouldn't be differences, but you'll never know :) There shouldn't be a difference, but if you have time, it doesn't cost anything to

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Davide Viti
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:12:04AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Monday 15 May 2006 15:32, Davide Viti wrote: I did one hour ago or so and it booted fine Hmm. I'm guessing that you've tried the mini.iso, and not one of the larger images as they indeed were completely broken. Will hopefully be

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:24:55AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 00:11, Eddy Petrişor wrote: So, will you disable them, or should I try to test your images, too ? (it seems to me that there shouldn't be differences, but you'll never know :) They should preferably be

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:17:42AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Monday 15 May 2006 14:33, Sven Luther wrote: (and we can't probably change it without another 6+ month flamewar with Ethan Benson), This comment was unnecessary. Please keep old gripes out of mailing list discussions.

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:33:09AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:05:08AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Sunday 14 May 2006 11:44, Geert Stappers wrote: Keep the current d-i images as they exist and add extra images for g-i. That would lead to an explosion of the

gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:34:27AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Monday 15 May 2006 23:40, Sven Luther wrote: Another aspect not to forget about this too. We have made considerable effort to bring the directfb code to gtk 2.9+. We have involved external folk outside of d-i to help us and make

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 08:11, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Eh, if you want to do gtk-dfb, you can't. The choice between using the DirectFB backend or the X11 backend has to be done at compile time. Or am I missing something? No, you're not. This is an

Re: kernel installer issues discussion at debconf

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 06:11:53AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: Hi, I just want to point out that we have at Tuesday, 10.05 in the Hacklab the stable release BoF, which will give us a chance to discuss that topic. (Thanks to Frans for pointing out how usefull such a pointer would be. :) At

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:40, Eddy Petrişor wrote: Why are you hanging always on the idea that we should use released versions? For testing and (in some cases) for the final product a CVS snapshot is more than good. We need testing if we desire the G-I to be ready for etch, I think you agree,

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:37, you wrote: I disagree, they is a lot of changes and new features for 2.10 and a random 2.9 snapshot is not something we are wanting to ship with a stable Debian Thank you for this quick and sane reply. pgpicDYPrUyAW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again

2006-05-16 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:23 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:17:10AM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: 0 OFfb ATY,264LTP 1 OFfb ATY,264LTP Ok, this is atyfb, and you probably have a rage something chip in there. I wonder about the two fbdevs, but i suppose this is one

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:40, Eddy Petrişor wrote: Why are you hanging always on the idea that we should use released versions? For testing and (in some cases) for the final product a CVS snapshot is more than good. We need testing if we desire

Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:53:53AM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:23 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:17:10AM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: 0 OFfb ATY,264LTP 1 OFfb ATY,264LTP Ok, this is atyfb, and you probably have a rage something

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:59, Eddy Petrişor wrote: I have addressed the concerns regading this point since the minimeeting held some time ago[1] by proposing a solution that would not interfere with the present packages. See the reply by the Gnome maintainer for why this is not an option.

Re: [LONG] ppp-udeb: A succesful installation using it, some ideas and some requests for advices

2006-05-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. I already explained this multiple times. An IP address is not *needed* on the ethernet interface, but always configuring one is simpler and may prevent problems later. If I am going to do that on the connection from my provider, I will have my contract termitated

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:09, Sven Luther wrote: It is scheduled for release during may, which may or not be delayed a bit. This is way this is an important point to get feedaback from the release team and from the gtk-gnome team now. I am CCing them on this. As you are not the d-i or g-i

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:37:36AM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 09:09 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : If we decide that 2.9+ and 2.10 is the way to go for etch, then we should be pro-active for this, and start experimenting, and even making them the default NOW.

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:48:30AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:09, Sven Luther wrote: It is scheduled for release during may, which may or not be delayed a bit. This is way this is an important point to get feedaback from the release team and from the gtk-gnome team

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:07:46AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:59, Eddy Petrişor wrote: I have addressed the concerns regading this point since the minimeeting held some time ago[1] by proposing a solution that would not interfere with the present packages. See the

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:36:56AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 08:11, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Eh, if you want to do gtk-dfb, you can't. The choice between using the DirectFB backend or the X11 backend has to be done at compile time. Or am I missing something? No, you're

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...]

2006-05-16 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Hi Frans, (I am answering this email in the same group, as it also addresses some of the problems of various mailinglists and has its home on debian-powerpc.) On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 06:22:29PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Monday 08 May 2006 11:18, you wrote: it was brought to my attention

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:37, you wrote: I disagree, they is a lot of changes and new features for 2.10 and a random 2.9 snapshot is not something we are wanting to ship with a stable Debian Thank you for this quick and sane reply. Please

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:07:45AM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 09:50 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : Sebastien, do you know if the development 2.9 gtk packages will be uploaded to experimental or something such ? If so, would it be meaningful to have those

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 09:09 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : If we decide that 2.9+ and 2.10 is the way to go for etch, then we should be pro-active for this, and start experimenting, and even making them the default NOW. GTK 2.9 is GNOME 2.16 material, lot of packages Depends on GTK and making

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ?

2006-05-16 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 09:09 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : It is scheduled for release during may, which may or not be delayed a bit. This is way this is an important point to get feedaback from the release team and from the gtk-gnome team now. I am

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 09:50 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : Sebastien, do you know if the development 2.9 gtk packages will be uploaded to experimental or something such ? If so, would it be meaningful to have those packages also include the build of the .udebs, and upload to unstable a version

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:58:52AM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 10:23 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : Ok, but if someone else would be packaging those to produce .udebs, you have no particular objection to uploading .debs to experimental at the same time ? Are

Bug#362633: installation-report: fails to detect hard drive

2006-05-16 Thread Radim Vocka
Hi, sorry, I have not received your reply sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], should have been sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The needed modules should be mptbase and mptscsih, they are present, in /lib/modules... but not loaded, loading them manually and restarting the partman does not help. lspci does not

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 11:45:02AM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 11:07 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : 1) you did comment on gtk 2.9+ for etch as the main gtk package, but does this advice also hold in a 2.0.x vs 2.9+ d-i gtk-dfb scenario ? As written previously

Re: kernel installer issues discussion at debconf

2006-05-16 Thread maximilian attems
hello, On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 06:11:53AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: I just want to point out that we have at Tuesday, 10.05 in the Hacklab the stable release BoF, which will give us a chance to discuss that topic. (Thanks to Frans for pointing out how usefull such a pointer would be. :)

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 10:23 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : Ok, but if someone else would be packaging those to produce .udebs, you have no particular objection to uploading .debs to experimental at the same time ? Are you saying you want to hijack GTK now? Sebastien Bacher -- To

libdebian-installer Packages support proposal

2006-05-16 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi folks I got a request from Colin if it is possible to add udeb selection per frontend. I had to decline this as it will break the ABI. As I have some pending changes which does that also, I hereby propose the following which will make it possible to change the ABI of the Packages reading part

Re: [LONG] ppp-udeb: A succesful installation using it, some ideas and some requests for advices

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. I already explained this multiple times. An IP address is not *needed* on the ethernet interface, but always configuring one is simpler and may prevent problems later. If I am going to do that on the connection

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 09:50 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : Sebastien, do you know if the development 2.9 gtk packages will be uploaded to experimental or something such ? If so, would it be meaningful to have those packages also include

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 11:07 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : 1) you did comment on gtk 2.9+ for etch as the main gtk package, but does this advice also hold in a 2.0.x vs 2.9+ d-i gtk-dfb scenario ? As written previously upstream changed the ABI number so updating to GTK 2.9 would require

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Christian Perrier
As you are not the d-i or g-i release manager and currently not even on the d-i team, it is _not_ your place to do this. I object slightly (but hopefully we'll find time to discuss these issues live). This has not been my reading of Sven's mails in that particular thread. IMHO, the

Re: [LONG] ppp-udeb: A succesful installation using it, some ideas and some requests for advices

2006-05-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 16, Eddy Petri??or [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am going to do that on the connection from my provider, I will have my contract termitated in a second because I am not allowed to use other IPs in their network than the ones given by thier servers, and believe me, there is NO

Re: [LONG] ppp-udeb: A succesful installation using it, some ideas and some requests for advices

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Marco d'Itri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 16, Eddy Petri??or [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am going to do that on the connection from my provider, I will have my contract termitated in a second because I am not allowed to use other IPs in their network than the ones given by

Some quotes about the issue at hand which should be consensual ... (Was: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ?)

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
Some thoughts by someone else than me about this issue : Vitality The most important thing that I think would benefit Debian is increasing its tempo. We've been slow in a lot of things, from releasing, to getting updates in, to processing applications from prospective developers, to

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi If i'm not wrong, current GTKDFB 2.0.9 libraries (binary .udeb and - dev .deb) are built from a completly different source package than regular GTKX libraries (currently 2.8.xx in unstable, IIRC). Standard GTK libraries used in the Debian are built with the X frontend, while GTK libraries

Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again

2006-05-16 Thread Michael Schmitz
$ more /proc/fb 0 ATI Radeon Lf 0 OFfb ATY,264LTP 1 OFfb ATY,264LTP Might be the LCD is actually on the second one? Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#367499: installation-reports: Not recognize adaptec aic-9405w sas/sata controller

2006-05-16 Thread Michele Bendazzoli
Package: installation-reports Severity: important -- Package-specific info: Boot method: usb stick Image version: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta2/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-businesscard.iso Date: Date and time of the install Machine: IBM xseries 206m Partitions: df -Tl

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 11:45 +0200, Sebastien Bacher a écrit : Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 11:07 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : 1) you did comment on gtk 2.9+ for etch as the main gtk package, but does this advice also hold in a 2.0.x vs 2.9+ d-i gtk-dfb scenario ? As written previously

Bug#367505: Indirect dependency conflict between libgtk+2.0-directfb-dev and libgtk+2.0-directfb0

2006-05-16 Thread Krzysztof B
Package: libgtk+2.0-directfb-dev Version: 2.0.9.2-13 Severity: important *** Please type your report below this line *** The libgtk+2.0-directfb-dev package indirectly conflicts with libgtk+2.0-directfb0. The problem is that libgtk+2.0-directfb0 directly depends on libdirectfb-0.9-22, while

Re: [LONG] ppp-udeb: A succesful installation using it, some ideas and some requests for advices

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 14:33, Eddy Petrişor wrote: In order to have that ran at some point after the syetm is configured, some postinst from the menu, directly or indirectly will have to do the copying. Having another entry in the d-i menu means having another udeb (only one postinst/udeb is

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 10:25, Wouter Verhelst wrote: My point really was that it's silly to drop the graphical installer as a target for Etch if you need to compile differently for gtk-dfb anyway; so if the regular gtk2 packages aren't at the correct version, having a different gtk2 source

Re: dhcp3-client and D-I

2006-05-16 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 06:54:55AM +0200, Noèl Köthe wrote: Am Sonntag, den 14.05.2006, 09:10 +1000 schrieb Andrew Pollock: Hello Andrew, we had the D-I BoF here at Debconf6 some hours ago. 1. the D-I will use 2 but 3 will be install on the system which is installed Sounds

Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again

2006-05-16 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 09:58 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: My diagnostic here, is that g-i makes some assumptions that are wrong on powerpc. Most probably it tries to load the vesafb module, but since the above is builtin in the powerpc kernel, that test fails, obviously. Furthermore, vesafb is

Processed: Re: Bug#367499: installation-reports: Not recognize adaptec aic-9405w sas/sata controller

2006-05-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#367499: installation-reports: Not recognize adaptec aic-9405w sas/sata controller

2006-05-16 Thread Christian Perrier
severity 367499 normal thanks The system doesn't recognize the adaptec aic-9405w SATA/SAS controller. I found the gpl drivers at http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-62897 but I'm not able to use them in a useful way other than report to you ... That

Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:16:38PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: $ more /proc/fb 0 ATI Radeon Lf 0 OFfb ATY,264LTP 1 OFfb ATY,264LTP Might be the LCD is actually on the second one? This might be the reason it fails, if it is so. But i am not sure, since the dmesg output mentioned

Re: [LONG] ppp-udeb: A succesful installation using it, some ideas and some requests for advices

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 14:33, Eddy Petrişor wrote: In order to have that ran at some point after the syetm is configured, some postinst from the menu, directly or indirectly will have to do the copying. Having another entry in the d-i menu means

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 10:25, Wouter Verhelst wrote: My point really was that it's silly to drop the graphical installer as a target for Etch if you need to compile differently for gtk-dfb anyway; so if the regular gtk2 packages aren't at the

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 11:45 +0200, Sebastien Bacher a écrit : Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 11:07 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit : 1) you did comment on gtk 2.9+ for etch as the main gtk package, but does this advice also hold in a 2.0.x vs

Bug#367515: kernel ABI mismatch message should tell user to look for an updated CD

2006-05-16 Thread Ryan Murray
Package: anna Version: 1.2.3 Severity: wishlist As requested by Frans in the stable BOF @ debconf6, the message displayed to the user when the kernel ABI of the downloaded module udebs doesn't match the running kernel should suggest downloading an updated CD. -- System Information: Debian

Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 05:33:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:16:38PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: $ more /proc/fb 0 ATI Radeon Lf 0 OFfb ATY,264LTP 1 OFfb ATY,264LTP Might be the LCD is actually on the second one? This might be the reason it

Re: powerpc daily sid_d-i CD builds working again

2006-05-16 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 17:52 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 05:33:24PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:16:38PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: $ more /proc/fb 0 ATI Radeon Lf 0 OFfb ATY,264LTP 1 OFfb ATY,264LTP Might be the LCD

Re: kernel installer issues discussion at debconf

2006-05-16 Thread Andreas Barth
* maximilian attems ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060516 11:09]: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 06:11:53AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: I just want to point out that we have at Tuesday, 10.05 in the Hacklab the stable release BoF, which will give us a chance to discuss that topic. (Thanks to Frans for

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 05:06:03PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 10:25, Wouter Verhelst wrote: My point really was that it's silly to drop the graphical installer as a target for Etch if you need to compile differently for gtk-dfb anyway; so if the regular gtk2 packages

Re: graphics or text as default?

2006-05-16 Thread chantra
Hi, Even though I prefer the textual installer or even no installers ;) see http://www.debuntu.org/2006/05/14/51-how-to-installing-debian-etch-from-a-running-debian-based-system/ I reckon graphical as default is best. Why? Just because awared user will instantly look toward FXs menus, but a

Re: installing debian without debian-installer

2006-05-16 Thread chantra
Thank you for your message and the link to the howto; I hope it will be useful to some people. Installing Debian using debootstrap is also documented in the Installation Guide: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apds03.html Hi, Arf, I could not find that link anymore from the

Re: libdebian-installer Packages support proposal

2006-05-16 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:52:19AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Bastian Blank wrote: * Support for udebs per frontend. Not sure what this means exactly.. | Kamion waldi: how would I go about adding a parameter to di_system_packages_resolve_dependencies_mark_anna without breaking libd-i's ABI? |

Re: installing debian without debian-installer

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 19:14, chantra wrote: Arf, I could not find that link anymore from the debian frontpage, that's why I went on that quest ;). From the from page, try the link to Installation manual under the Documentation heading ;-) pgph5OVxx5mdJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: installing debian without debian-installer

2006-05-16 Thread chantra
From the from page, try the link to Installation manual under the Documentation heading ;-) Arf, I didn't scroll down enough :p . But still, this bit is missing now: C.4.4.4.Configure Timezone, Users, and APT Set your timezone, add a normal user, and choose your apt sources by

Bug#367505: marked as done (Indirect dependency conflict between libgtk+2.0-directfb-dev and libgtk+2.0-directfb0)

2006-05-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Tue, 16 May 2006 20:13:19 +0200 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#367505: Indirect dependency conflict between libgtk+2.0-directfb-dev and libgtk+2.0-directfb0 has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 18:42 +0300, Eddy Petrişor a écrit : So the questions are: - Is it OK for the GTK+GNOME team to have D-I people (and maybe with the help of some gtk/gnome people) build some udebs for GTK _with_the_DFB_ backend, as

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 18:42 +0300, Eddy Petrişor a écrit : So the questions are: - Is it OK for the GTK+GNOME team to have D-I people (and maybe with the help of some gtk/gnome people) build some udebs for GTK _with_the_DFB_ backend, as it is now for the 2.0.9 version? Sure, no objection

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti
Eddy Petrişor wrote: On 5/16/06, Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 18:42 +0300, Eddy Petrişor a écrit : So the questions are: - Is it OK for the GTK+GNOME team to have D-I people (and maybe with the help of some gtk/gnome people) build some udebs for GTK

Bug#367551: No software to net-install over a ppp modem connection

2006-05-16 Thread David Lawyer
Package: debian-installer Version: Sarge ? The netinst page (http://www.us.debian.org/distrib/netinst) claims: This sort of network installation process requires either an analogue PPP dialup connection to your Internet provider, or Internet access via Ethernet (possibly using a PCMCIA

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Eddy Petrişor
On 5/16/06, Attilio Fiandrotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, if i understand correctly, there should be definitely no problems in moving to more recent GTKDFB libraries, right (no conflicts with GTKX pavkages) ? do we all agree about moving to 2.9.0 (needs minor patches) or CVS snapshot dated

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:36:48PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 18:42 +0300, Eddy Petrişor a écrit : So the questions are: - Is it OK for the GTK+GNOME team to have D-I people (and maybe with the help of some gtk/gnome people) build some udebs for GTK

Re: Proposal for integration of the graphical installer

2006-05-16 Thread Geert Stappers
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:22:22AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 09:01, Geert Stappers wrote: Fool^WFull switch to g-i will kill serial line and ssh installs. Not so. The installer detects serial line installs and does not enable the framebuffer and thus not the graphical

Re: libdebian-installer Packages support proposal

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 19:59, Bastian Blank wrote: I'll implement that after the higher priority tasks (aka partman) are sorted out. As there was no response yes, I don't think anyone wants to help. Speaking only for myself of course, I still have your message on my TODO list. However, it is

tasksel 2.44 MIGRATED to testing

2006-05-16 Thread Debian testing watch
FYI: The status of the tasksel source package in Debian's testing distribution has changed. Previous version: 2.43 Current version: 2.44 -- This email is automatically generated; [EMAIL PROTECTED] is responsible. See http://people.debian.org/~henning/trille/ for more information. -- To

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 16 mai 2006 à 21:55 +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti a écrit : So, if i understand correctly, there should be definitely no problems in moving to more recent GTKDFB libraries, right (no conflicts with GTKX pavkages) ? do we all agree about moving to 2.9.0 (needs minor patches) or CVS

Persistent device names

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
To discuss this subject, I've still wanted to set up a discussion with at least Marco, you, Joey and Colin, but for different reasons have not gotten around to that. As I'll be on holiday for a few weeks after Debconf, let me at least list the issues that I've had in mind and that should be

Re: Persistent device names

2006-05-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 17, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - We should like to keep support for devfs and regular device names in the installer; loosing that would mean no support for 2.2/2.4 installs (although those are likely to be dropped anyway) and no support for installs of Sarge and I think

Processed: your mail

2006-05-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reopen 328498 Bug#328498: switch to cdebconf as default 'reopen' is deprecated when a bug has been closed with a version; use 'found' or 'submitter' as appropriate instead. Bug reopened, originator not changed. -- Stopping processing here. Please

Bug#367402: software raid jfs

2006-05-16 Thread Karl Schmidt
using the debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso from may 13 Wiped disk and tried this one again - Dropped down into shell just before the grub install and chroot /target added backports to sources.list apt-get update apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-amd64-k8 complained about hotplug - and

Re: gtk 2.0.x or 2.9+ for etch g-i ? (Was: graphics or text as default)

2006-05-16 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti
Eddy Petrişor wrote: On 5/16/06, Attilio Fiandrotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, if i understand correctly, there should be definitely no problems in moving to more recent GTKDFB libraries, right (no conflicts with GTKX pavkages) ? do we all agree about moving to 2.9.0 (needs minor patches)

Re: libdebian-installer Packages support proposal

2006-05-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 11:02:43PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 19:59, Bastian Blank wrote: I'll implement that after the higher priority tasks (aka partman) are sorted out. As there was no response yes, I don't think anyone wants to help. Speaking only for myself of

D-I-internals workshop at Debconf

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
Hi all, I'll be giving a workshop explaining the technical side of the installer on Thursday 18-5 from 20:20 - 22:00 UTC (if my timezone calculations are correct). Main subjects are: - What happens when the installer runs: - installation methods - booting - the menu and running

Daily built images for i386 include graphical installation option

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
At Debconf Joey Hess and I have integrated support for the graphical installer into the main build system for d-i. For now the support is for i386 only, but amd64 [1] and powerpc will follow very soon. This means that the daily built images [2] of the installer now include an option to boot

Re: How can I make mirrors?

2006-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Kimberley Crombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: how do imake a mirror aeh, sorry for the last mail. I ment: apt-get install reprepro MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

S/390 and persistent device naming (was: s390 update - partman requirements)

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 08 May 2006 09:16, Bastian Blank wrote: I fixed the hardware configuration for s390 yesterday. It works flawless now except that it needs some further indicators that it did something. Great. Now it is time to switch to partman as partconf is completely out of order. Yes, it

Re: s390 update - partman requirements

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 May 2006 15:01, Bastian Blank wrote: /dev/disk/by-path (usable both for booting and in fstab) or /dev/disk/by-{id,uuid} (only appropritate in fstab). How can I get parted_server to use this paths? Must I issue a CLOSE with the old device and an OPEN with the correct one? Or may

Re: s390 update - partman requirements

2006-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 May 2006 14:45, Bastian Blank wrote: partman-partitioning/storage_device/label/do_option already contains a selection for msdos/gpt. Should I just extend that or push the whole logic out? I would guess extending it for s/390 is best. pgpP8NhdFb0MH.pgp Description: PGP signature

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