Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 07:43:45PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Michael Bramer wrote: A debian package maintainer don't need some reasons for a new package. If the package is free and someone make the work, the ftp master(s) should include the package on the debian ftp server. Not

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-14 Thread Richard Hirst
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:54:39PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote: gluck.d.o (aka ddtp) is down. Know someone the problem? That's hosted at HP, isn't it? they are having some internal routing problems the last day or so. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-14 Thread Michael Bramer
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 09:12:13AM +0100, Richard Hirst wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:54:39PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote: gluck.d.o (aka ddtp) is down. Know someone the problem? That's hosted at HP, isn't it? they are having some internal routing problems the last day or so. yes,

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:45:15AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: IIRC we would need at least translated templates for passwd and console-data. When I asked about chances of making i18n in Woody, I got a veto, explaining that I was too late and we are very close to the release and it may be

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-13 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 11:26:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:45:15AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: IIRC we would need at least translated templates for passwd and console-data. When I asked about chances of making i18n in Woody, I got a veto, explaining that I was

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:50:30AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote: Only may request: it is to late for a translated 2. install stage, it is to late for a apt-i18n, it is to late for a 'select ddtp-source in the b-f', it is to late for a ... No, it's not too late for apt-i18n, apt-i18n is screwed

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-13 Thread Michael Bramer
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 11:26:27PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:45:15AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: IIRC we would need at least translated templates for passwd and console-data. When I asked about chances of making i18n in Woody, I got a veto, explaining that I was

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-13 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit: Yes, and those six months have been spent fixing the existing problems. I'm sorry, but the standard i18n hystrionics aren't helpful or interesting. If you want to ever have Debian support i18n well you need to start working on unstable

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-13 Thread Michael Bramer
hello I will not make a new flamework with you or any other debian developer. You make a big and good job Anthony! But I must put some comments on your statements. On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 11:30:59PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:50:30AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote:

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-13 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Junichi Uekawa | possible slang-utf-8 for cdebconf ? hopefully I'll have some time to look at this during the weekend. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' :

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-13 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 01:59, Junichi Uekawa wrote: For Japanese, we at least need some kind of debconf fix for utf-8 character conversion support, or a working japanese character terminal (jfbterm for all arches?). Couldn't debconf just use iconv, or am I missing something? -- To

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-13 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Bramer wrote: A debian package maintainer don't need some reasons for a new package. If the package is free and someone make the work, the ftp master(s) should include the package on the debian ftp server. Not without good reason, and not if there is a consensus against or

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-13 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit: On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 01:59, Junichi Uekawa wrote: For Japanese, we at least need some kind of debconf fix for utf-8 character conversion support, or a working japanese character terminal (jfbterm for all arches?). Couldn't debconf

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-12 Thread Michael Bramer
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 07:45:15AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: - make the release without the missinig translated templates - better translate the missing tamplates. IMHO this is not a big problem. IIRC we would need at least translated templates for passwd and console-data. When

i18n second stage...

2002-06-11 Thread Michael Bramer
Woody sucks because the install system don't have translated texts after the reboot. Please make new fixed Boot-floppies! Eduard already send/make a fix. See mails from Sep 2001 and from the last months on this list. (sorry, I don't find the mail with the fix in my mail archive. Eduard can you

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-11 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Bramer wrote: Woody sucks because the install system don't have translated texts after the reboot. Please make new fixed Boot-floppies! Eduard already send/make a fix. See mails from Sep 2001 and from the last months on this list. (sorry, I don't find the mail with the fix in

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-11 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Joey Hess] Petter Reinholdtsen was on the right track, I think with bug #135565, but I don't think he ever got back to me with test results. Still working on it, but decided to postpone it until Tollef got the debian-installer working for our Skolelinux project. I've tested the patch without

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-11 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h Michael Bramer wrote on Tue Jun 11, 2002 um 05:07:03PM: Eduard already send/make a fix. See mails from Sep 2001 and from the last months on this list. (sorry, I don't find the mail with the fix in my mail archive. Eduard can you help?) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:17:04 +0100

Re: i18n second stage...

2002-06-11 Thread Junichi Uekawa
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:37:24 -0400 Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, this is just not going to happen for woody, r0 at least. I have never gotten a well-tested patch to base-config that is obviously correct. I did get a great deal of off-the-cuff, untested, large, nonobvious,