Bug#725714: Bug#715408: fixed now, but firmware problems with new installer

2013-12-12 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Ben, On 12.12.2013 01:50, Ben Hutchings wrote: Control: reassign -1 installation-reports On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 21:56 +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: It looks like a bug in the linux kernel. I don't think so. The kernel log indicates that it got a negative response from the user agent.

Bug#725714: Bug#715408: fixed now, but firmware problems with new installer

2013-12-12 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 09:51:48AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Hi Ben, On 12.12.2013 01:50, Ben Hutchings wrote: Control: reassign -1 installation-reports On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 21:56 +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: It looks like a bug in the linux kernel. I don't think so. The

Processed: Re: Bug#715408: fixed now, but firmware problems with new installer

2013-12-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: reassign 725714 linux Bug #725714 [installation-reports] installation-reports: Recent netinst.iso doesn't write missing firmware to /run/udev/firmware-missing Bug reassigned from package 'installation-reports' to 'linux'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of

Bug#725714: Bug#715408: fixed now, but firmware problems with new installer

2013-12-11 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Control: reassign 725714 linux Control: tags 725714 d-i Hi Manfred, On 11.12.2013 05:55, Manfred Rebentisch wrote: Burned the Jessie-Image on a CD and start the PC with the Logitech Illuminated Keyboard. I tried to use graphical and textual install. In both cases all have worked. This

Processed: Re: Bug#725714: Bug#715408: fixed now, but firmware problems with new installer

2013-12-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: reassign -1 installation-reports Bug #725714 [linux] installation-reports: Recent netinst.iso doesn't write missing firmware to /run/udev/firmware-missing Bug reassigned from package 'linux' to 'installation-reports'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug

lenny with new installer

2011-06-28 Thread Ross Boylan
I am testing upgrades from lenny to squeeze in a VM. To get as close as possible to my existing system I used the lenny installer, but the new installer reportedly supports lenny too. If I use it, will I get the same setup in the end? In particular, I need software RAID with the same metadata

Re: lenny with new installer

2011-06-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:07:55PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: I am testing upgrades from lenny to squeeze in a VM. To get as close as possible to my existing system I used the lenny installer, but the new installer reportedly supports lenny too. If I use it, will I get the same setup

Re: lenny with new installer

2011-06-28 Thread Ross Boylan
On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 15:38 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:07:55PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: I am testing upgrades from lenny to squeeze in a VM. To get as close as possible to my existing system I used the lenny installer, but the new installer reportedly

Bug#282671: marked as done (new installer)

2010-09-07 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:57:47 + with message-id e1otbn9-0004j9...@ravel.debian.org and subject line Closing old installation report #282671 has caused the Debian Bug report #282671, regarding new installer to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has

Re: [RFC] New installer-settings component - please test and comment!

2009-01-20 Thread Frans Pop
Below a reply to a very old post from Joey [1] to which I should have replied then, but never got around to. I've quoted his mail in full for context. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2008/05/msg00345.html On Thursday 08 May 2008, Joey Hess wrote: A long, long time ago I proposed

Re: [RFC] New installer-settings component - please test and comment!

2009-01-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Frans Pop wrote: Over the past months I've been working on a new component that allows to change settings for the installer. Main intention is to improve the flexibility of the installer and the user experience. Not that much feedback, but I guess that was to be

Re: [RFC] New installer-settings component - please test and comment!

2009-01-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 15 January 2009, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: Being able to easily (and really), switch from expert mode to standard mode is really great for those who just needs expert mode in the firsts steps. Hmmm again. That is not really what happens, especially not if you compare it to the current

Re: [RFC] New installer-settings component - please test and comment!

2009-01-14 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 23:06 +0100, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: If I understand correctly, the idea is to be able to be able to switch *easily* between standard and expert mode during the installation. This is a nice. Hmm. Have you tried booting in

[RFC] New installer-settings component - please test and comment!

2009-01-13 Thread Frans Pop
Hi all, Over the past months I've been working on a new component that allows to change settings for the installer. Main intention is to improve the flexibility of the installer and the user experience. I'm now at the point where I'm happy with the framework and would like to get some

Re: [RFC] New installer-settings component - please test and comment!

2009-01-13 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
Hello Frans, On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 12:06 +0100, Frans Pop wrote: Over the past months I've been working on a new component that allows to change settings for the installer. [..] What I will say is: * it completely changes the concept of expert mode If I understand correctly, the idea is

Re: [RFC] New installer-settings component - please test and comment!

2009-01-13 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: If I understand correctly, the idea is to be able to be able to switch *easily* between standard and expert mode during the installation. This is a nice. Hmm. Have you tried booting in expert mode? signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: [RFC] New installer-settings component - please test and comment!

2009-01-13 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Frans Pop wrote: Test images for amd64 and i386 (newt frontend only) are available from: http://people.debian.org/~fjp/tmp/d-i/settings/ Major OOPS! I just realize that the image for i386 is completely broken as some of the modified udebs are not included. I'll fix

Re: [RFC] New installer-settings component - please test and comment!

2009-01-13 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Frans Pop wrote: Test images for amd64 and i386 (newt frontend only) are available from: http://people.debian.org/~fjp/tmp/d-i/settings/ I just realize that the image for i386 is completely broken as some of the

Bug#282671: new installer

2004-11-23 Thread Gene Lake
using the bootloader already installed in the MBR using the 'rootnoverify and chainloader' commands. I have Debian installed on both partition 7 and 15 using the new installer. I chose the 'unstable' packages option. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe

Processed: Re: Bug#282671: new installer

2004-11-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reassign 282671 installation-reports Bug#282671: new installer Warning: Unknown package 'send' Warning: Unknown package 'to' Bug reassigned from package `installation-reports send to' to `installation-reports

Bug#264863: marked as done (New Installer is FANTASTIC!)

2004-10-14 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#264863: New Installer is FANTASTIC!

2004-08-10 Thread internettyj
Package: installation-reports Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the imageThe image was downloaded from ftp:debian.org uname -a: The result of running uname -a on a shell promptLinux braincramp 2.4.26-1-686 #1 Thu Jul 22 13:00:49 JST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux Date: Date

Bug#242008: installation report with sarge and the new installer

2004-05-24 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Thomas Borger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-04 11:31]: Config network: worked after I changed manually some configuration files of wireless (/etc/pcmcia . . .) What changed did you have to make in order to get it to work? Can you please try a new image from

[Manual] New installer options versus old boot options

2004-04-24 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I noticed there are three new installer options. I'd like to add them in the manual. 1) debian-installer/probe/usb=false Is this i386 only? Is this for systems that freeze when USB is probed? Does this option replace the 'nousb' option currently

Re: [Manual] New installer options versus old boot options

2004-04-24 Thread Per Olofsson
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 18:36 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: 2) hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false Is this i386 only? No. When should this option be used? When you don't want d-i to try to start PCMCIA, because it crashes your computer. This mostly happens when the resource ranges are wrong. It will

Re: [Manual] New installer options versus old boot options

2004-04-24 Thread Joey Hess
Frans Pop wrote: 1) debian-installer/probe/usb=false Is this i386 only? Is this for systems that freeze when USB is probed? Does this option replace the 'nousb' option currently described in: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s01.html#id2453879 or are they for different

Re: [Manual] New installer options versus old boot options

2004-04-24 Thread Per Olofsson
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 13:11 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Oddly, some report that it says it's skipping the ide-floppy driver and then freezes. That is right before it starts pcmcia, and maybe it does not update the progress bar quite right. But it is updated, I see Starting PC card services when

Re: [Manual] New installer options versus old boot options

2004-04-24 Thread Per Olofsson
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 21:12 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Saturday 24 April 2004 19:07, you wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 18:36 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: 2) hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false Is this i386 only? No. Do you know which others? Uhm, as I said in another mail, I misunderstood

Re: [Manual] New installer options versus old boot options

2004-04-24 Thread Joey Hess
Per Olofsson wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 13:11 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Oddly, some report that it says it's skipping the ide-floppy driver and then freezes. That is right before it starts pcmcia, and maybe it does not update the progress bar quite right. But it is updated, I see

Re: [Manual] New installer options versus old boot options

2004-04-24 Thread Frans Pop
How does this look for the PCMCIA option? (I have removed most of the SGML tags.) Some laptop models produced by DELL are known to crash when PCMCIA device detection tries to access some hardware addresses. If you experience such a problem and you don't need PCMCIA support during the

Re: [Manual] New installer options versus old boot options

2004-04-24 Thread Per Olofsson
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 22:20 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: How does this look for the PCMCIA option? Good! Some laptop models produced by DELL are known to crash when PCMCIA device detection tries to access some hardware addresses. I think it's written Dell. It might also be worth noting that

Re: [Manual] New installer options versus old boot options

2004-04-24 Thread Per Olofsson
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 15:43 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: But it is updated, I see Starting PC card services when I run hw-detect. Is db_progress fully synchronous? The display update could easily have a race. Then I suspect that this is the case. Yes, you're right, I thought he meant

Bug#241932: New installer don't allow to choose ftp as install source

2004-04-03 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Package: boot-floppies Severity: important In the new installer it is not possible to choose ftp as install source. (minimal install CD Beta 3 from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta3/sarge-i386-businesscard.iso) For some reasons I'm

Sarge new installer | Continue does not work

2004-02-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am using debian installer sarge-i386-netinst.iso downloaded from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040228/ My machine: no special brand, assembled Processor: Pentium III (Coppermine) Memory: I do not know the command to show memory... Root Device: IDE I arrived to the

Re: Sarge new installer | Continue does not work

2004-02-29 Thread Joey Hess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using debian installer sarge-i386-netinst.iso downloaded from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/daily/i386/20040228/ My machine: no special brand, assembled Processor: Pentium III (Coppermine) Memory: I do not know the command to show memory... Root

New installer with old hardware

2003-11-18 Thread Fabio Brito
Hi all, I'm trying to install sarge in a old server, using the new installer. I'm using the beta1 release and the daily from Nov 15. The problem is: i can't get the language selection. I get a loop with the framebuffer modules. The vga card is an very old isa non vesa 2.0 compliant. I've

Re: New installer with old hardware

2003-11-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Fabio Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, I'm trying to install sarge in a old server, using the new installer. I'm using the beta1 release and the daily from Nov 15. The problem is: i can't get the language selection. I get a loop with the framebuffer modules. The vga card

Re: Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-20 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 10:27:02PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Polish;pl_PL;pl;PL; Updated. new revision: 1.22; previous revision: 1.21 Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://marcin.owsiany.pl/ GnuPG: 1024D/60F41216 FE67 DA2D 0ACA FC5E 3F75 D6F6 3A0D 8AA0 60F4

Re: Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-20 Thread era+debian
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:29:58 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted to the debian-boot mailing list: I know that the Hebrew and Icelandic texts are completely untranslated, and would also like to have the other texts checked as well. But Icelandic is even misspelled ... Sorry I

Re: Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Petter Reinholdtsen] Please check the CVS version at URL:http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/tools/languagechooser/languagelist.l10n?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup, and send updates to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will remove the entries without proper translations (ie the

Re: Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-18 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS] Esperanto: Elektu œô ©i tion por daœô¡­rigi en Esperanto Thank you. CVS is now updated. And thank you for all the others checking entries. Still some entries left. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-18 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS] Esperanto: Elektu œô ©i tion por daœô¡­rigi en Esperanto Thank you. CVS is now updated. And thank you for all the others checking entries. Still some entries left. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-16 Thread cobaco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2003-10-15 13:05, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Hi Petter! You wrote: Please check the CVS version at URL:http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/tools/languagechooser/langua gelist.l10n?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup, and send

Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-15 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
The langauge/region choices used in the new installatino system display a translated language option. But some of these options are not translated properly. The text was copied from the Woody installer, and here the text contain a 'press enter' part which is taken out of the new installer

Re: Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-15 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Petter! You wrote: Please check the CVS version at URL:http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/tools/languagechooser/languagelist.l10n?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup, and send updates to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Dutch ones look OK, except for the final dot that probably

Re: Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-15 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please check the CVS version at URL:http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/tools/languagechooser/languagelist.l10n?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup, and send updates to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esperanto: Elektu i tion por darigi en

Re: Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-15 Thread George Papamichelakis
of the new installer to make it possible to use a graphical chooser without having to confuse the users. I know that the Hebrew and Icelandic texts are completely untranslated, and would also like to have the other texts checked as well. It seem to me that Catalan, Chinese (both Simplified

Re: Please check language/region choices for new installer

2003-10-15 Thread Christian Perrier
French OK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: new installer

2003-10-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 05:16:41PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:48:50PM +, simon raven wrote: Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:33:44 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:23:31AM +, simon raven wrote: Better participate and make sure that

Re: new installer

2003-10-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:19:07PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: quik-installer is moderatly complicated if you want to do it right, it needs to depend on yaboot since yaboot provides ofpath. I have no intention to do a quik-installer, since i don't have the hardware, so i guess that someone

Re: new installer

2003-10-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:09:07PM +, simon raven wrote: any kernel that lies in the startup System\ Folder/$some_sub_dir on the mockos classic partition; as long as it recognises it as a linux.bin (this name can be changed in the application resources) it'll boot. it doesn't need to

Re: new installer

2003-10-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:22:36PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:19:07PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: quik-installer is moderatly complicated if you want to do it right, it needs to depend on yaboot since yaboot provides ofpath. I have no intention to do a

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: Ah, and yes, Herbert has asked about that, and most probably, there will be no 2.2.x kernels in sarge, so if you have problems with 2.4.x on your subarch, please document it, try to provide fixes or anything, don't be silent about

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: also .coff kernels don't even work until 2.4.23 (maybe). ask ben herrenschmidt about that actually. seems that they do work. yup, nobody cares about doing installer

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:49:16 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: The most funny was the guy telling us to use yaboot2 and that d-i was just crap. who said? and if you're referring to me, that's not what i said. i said quik was, not d-i. and besides i have no personal experience with d-i, seems i

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:12:56AM +, simon raven wrote: Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: also .coff kernels don't even work until 2.4.23 (maybe). ask ben herrenschmidt about that actually.

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:23:31AM +, simon raven wrote: Le Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:49:16 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: The most funny was the guy telling us to use yaboot2 and that d-i was just crap. who said? and if you're referring to me, that's not what i said. i said quik was,

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:12:56AM +, simon raven wrote: Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: also .coff kernels don't even work until 2.4.23 (maybe). ask ben herrenschmidt about that actually.

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:29:43AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:12:56AM +, simon raven wrote: Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: also .coff kernels don't even work

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:07:57AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:29:43AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:12:56AM +, simon raven wrote: Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200,

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:07:57AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:29:43AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:12:56AM +, simon raven wrote: Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200,

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:20:07PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: check penguinppc.org/projects/quik/ Mmm, i don't really understand what quik is, from what i read at that page, it seems it is only a linux program to set the OF variables to load the kernel, or is it something more ? In

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:41:19PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: So what this boils too, is that for old-world pmac support, there is not much to be done : 1) Kernel : create one more kernel-image udeb, which contains a compressed vmlinux udeb for miboot. 2) boot-loader installer :

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:33:44 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:23:31AM +, simon raven wrote: Better participate and make sure that that it works, much more constructive that way. Also, i was refering about the person (maybe you, i don't remember) who was telling

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:29:43 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:12:56AM +, simon raven wrote: Le Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 23:52:58 -0800, Ethan Benson a écrit: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: also .coff kernels don't even work

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:48:50PM +, simon raven wrote: Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:33:44 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: No, the problem is that it is damn hard to test stuff if you don't have the hardware for it. Especially kernels and boot-loader stuff. well, not necessarily you

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:20:07 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: Ok, so for oldworld pmac d-i support, we really only need to fix the initial booting stuff, and the bootloader/kernel installation step. that's pretty much it. Friendly, Sven Luther --

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread simon raven
Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:12:49 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:09:22AM +, simon raven wrote: Le Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:20:29 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: So you volunteer to work on yaboot2, and have answered Ethan's call for help ? i have offered my

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 12:48:50PM +, simon raven wrote: Le Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:33:44 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit: On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:23:31AM +, simon raven wrote: Better participate and make sure that that it works, much more constructive that way. Also, i was

Re: new installer

2003-10-03 Thread Herbert Xu
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well d-i is a bunch of little piles of crufty sh, rather then a couple large piles of crufty C like boot-floppies. Which in turn was a rewrite of large pile of crufty sh :) -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 09:01:23AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 03:54:40PM +0200, Thorsten Sauter wrote: * simon raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-27 15:31]: | that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported directly in the new | installer. maybe you can tell us

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 07:45:37PM -0400, dan wrote: Ok I think I see the overall picture now. Basically 2.2 and the old bf24 are the only kernels small enough to fit on a floppy. Booting from cds is not an option because that requires a proprietary bootloader. Are the following situations

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Notice that when i asked about this on debian-powerpc, i was told that the 2.4 kernel could be made to fit on 1.44 floppy disks. In fact, if i look at the kernel-image-2.4.21 packages, i find that : -

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 11:52:58PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:16:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Notice that when i asked about this on debian-powerpc, i was told that the 2.4 kernel could be made to fit on 1.44 floppy disks. In fact, if i look at the

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:49:16AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:33:53AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:19:58AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: a .coff kernel won't autoboot, the user would have to manually get into OpenFirmware and boot it

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:40:11AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:49:16AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:33:53AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:19:58AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: a .coff kernel won't autoboot, the user

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:48:46AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: give up on the idea of a master kernel that works on more then one powerpc, its not gunna happen. Currently, the oldpamc, newpmac, chrp, chrp-rs6k, prep kernels are all built from the same source, and with the same configuration

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:47:51AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:48:46AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: give up on the idea of a master kernel that works on more then one powerpc, its not gunna happen. Currently, the oldpamc, newpmac, chrp, chrp-rs6k, prep kernels

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Dan Weber
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:25:12AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 07:45:37PM -0400, dan wrote: Ok I think I see the overall picture now. Basically 2.2 and the old bf24 are the only kernels small enough to fit on a floppy. Booting from cds is not an option because that

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Dan Weber] I think I need to review the steps on how he makes a bootfloppy like that. Since I want to be able to understand it externally before I reimplement in the DI-2.6. I suspect your approach in making d-i handle 2.6 kernels is not the best nor the most efficient way. Duplicating the

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:22:53AM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:25:12AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 07:45:37PM -0400, dan wrote: Ok I think I see the overall picture now. Basically 2.2 and the old bf24 are the only kernels small enough to fit on

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 12:54:14PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: i just state things as i see them in the most efficient means. i don't have time for sugar coating bullshit. if something is broken crap ill say its broken crap. But you have time for being crude. And calling someone retarded

Re: new installer

2003-10-02 Thread Dan Weber
To: Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new installer X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux 2.6.0-test5-bktree-2 X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 6.2 X-MailServer: Exim 4.22 On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:43:00PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Dan Weber] I think I need to review

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Eric Côté] that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported directly in the new installer. OK. I leave that decision to you. Thanks for letting us know, so we can avoid worrying about that architecture. If you change your mind, please send patches or get involved to fix the remaining

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread Dan Weber
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 10:37, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Eric Côté] that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported directly in the new installer. OK. I leave that decision to you. Thanks for letting us know, so we can avoid worrying about that architecture. If you change your mind

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread Dan Weber
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 19:26, Matt Kraai wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:06:03PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: I have begun to work on getting oldworld to boot. Basically the idea is to take two floppies, one with the kernel and the other with the initrd if we can fit and have the kernel be the

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread Matt Kraai
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:28:47PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: I am still maintainer of d-i 2.6 and I must do a duplicate of his design. I wonder what size he got his initrds down to any how. It's the bootfloppy type. Have fun. -- Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread Matt Kraai
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:06:03PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: I have begun to work on getting oldworld to boot. Basically the idea is to take two floppies, one with the kernel and the other with the initrd if we can fit and have the kernel be the one kickstarting the cd. in the following way the

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread Dan Weber
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 19:36, Matt Kraai wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:28:47PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: I am still maintainer of d-i 2.6 and I must do a duplicate of his design. I wonder what size he got his initrds down to any how. It's the bootfloppy type. Have fun. What do you mean

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread Dan Weber
I think this is the longest thread that debian-boot has ever had. On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 19:57, Matt Kraai wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:52:57PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 19:36, Matt Kraai wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:28:47PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: I am

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread Dan Weber
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 19:57, Matt Kraai wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:52:57PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 19:36, Matt Kraai wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:28:47PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: I am still maintainer of d-i 2.6 and I must do a duplicate of his

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread simon raven
Le Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 16:26:50 -0700, Matt Kraai a écrit: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:06:03PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: I have begun to work on getting oldworld to boot. Basically the idea is to take two floppies, one with the kernel and the other with the initrd if we can fit and have the

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread Dan Weber
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 20:17, simon raven wrote: Le Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 16:26:50 -0700, Matt Kraai a écrit: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 07:06:03PM -0400, Dan Weber wrote: I have begun to work on getting oldworld to boot. Basically the idea is to take two floppies, one with the kernel and the

Re: new installer

2003-09-29 Thread simon raven
Le Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 20:20:56 -0400, Dan Weber a écrit: Apparently its builtin into the debian-installer cvs. run make TYPE=bootfloppy initrd from the build dir and that should work. Im going to review it later tonight. simon k, i'll take a look at too, i have some free time. --

Re: new installer

2003-09-28 Thread Dan Weber
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 21:18, simon raven wrote: Le Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 21:12:48 -0400, Dan Weber a écrit: Well my intentions were to tell the bootloader to wait until it has all of it into memory. However this may cause a requirement of 8mb i see. so it'S be something like: load stuff

new installer

2003-09-27 Thread simon raven
LET IT BE KNOWN: that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported directly in the new installer. i think this sucks. 1) there are plenty of still functional oldworld machines out there 2) i think it shows an utter lack of consideration for recycling, re-use of older hardware and the environment

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread Chris Tillman
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 03:54:40PM +0200, Thorsten Sauter wrote: * simon raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-09-27 15:31]: | that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported directly in the new | installer. maybe you can tell us, what is needed to support oldworld machines instead of writing

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:31:27PM +, simon raven wrote: LET IT BE KNOWN: that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported directly in the new installer. i think this sucks. 1) there are plenty of still functional oldworld machines out there 2) i think it shows an utter lack

RE: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread dan
Message- From: Steve Langasek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 12:55 PM To: simon raven Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: new installer On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 01:31:27PM +, simon raven wrote: LET IT BE KNOWN: that OldWorld PPC sub-arch will not be supported

Re: new installer

2003-09-27 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 09:01:23AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: For systems which doesn't support devfs there is a devfs wrapper, which handle such archs. devfs is obsolete, its use should be removed from debian-installer. in all cases where i found lazy abuse of devfs as some sort of

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