Bug#381979: keymap not changed in g-i after selection in kbd-chooser

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Frans Pop wrote:

On Friday 22 September 2006 22:03, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:


Yes, i think the patch by davide should be applied: when we switch to
GTKDFB later, we'll have the chance to re-enable the check on the GDK
backend used, so that the GTK frontend works again with GTKX.



You did not read the patch I attached!


I was suggesting to simply run the

dfb_input_device_reload_keymap( dfb_input_device_at( DIDID_KEYBOARD ) );

as davide suggested, no matter the GTKDFB version is :)
I don't see any real need to split cases GTK = 2.10.0 and  2.10.0, as 
no one runs cdebconf with the GTK frontend on X server, but of course 
the GTK version check is harmless, so please proceed patching the GTK 
frontend with the patch (Davide's or yours) you prefer.


cheers

Attilio


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Re: Bug#381979: keymap not changed in g-i after selection in kbd-chooser

2006-09-23 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 GDK_WINDOWING_DIRECTFB is apparently not defined inside gtk.c
 the following patch works for me
 GDK_WINDOWING_[X11|DIRECTFB|...] is a macro defined at GTK configure 
 time and in GTK 2.10.4 i can find it defined in gdk/gdkconfig.h, while 
 sourcecode for package libgtk-directfb-2.0-0 doesn not contain it.
 The problem seems so bounded to GTK 2.8.x with backported DFB backend we 
 currently use, and should be fixed when we switch to GTK 2.10.x.
 Removing the GDK backend check is harmless unless someone wants to build 
 the GTK frontend against GTKX too, so i guess as a temporary solution it 
 can do.
 I never noticed this missing define because i usually perform all my 
 test using latest GTK from CVS, thanks to Davide who spotted this :)

 I've noticed this problem when I compared a full DFB build with a
 standard X11 build, this is why I've started shipping the gdkconfig.h
 of the directfb build in /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include/directfb/gdkconfig.h
 starting with 2.10.1-1.

 To use it, you should prepend -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include/directfb to
 your build flags.

 I have in my TODO to patch the DirectFB pkg-config files to achieve
 this, but I didn't have the time to do that yet.

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Re: [g-i] patch for the lines problem

2006-09-23 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 FYI, Mathias Classen said GTK+ 2.10.4 is going to be presumably released 
 at the end of this week.

 I'm preparing 2.10.4, and it has some bug fixes, but it doesn't seem to
 change anything related to DFB.

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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Sven Luther wrote:

On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 10:40:34PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:


On Friday 22 September 2006 21:32, Sven Luther wrote:


We did never implement the thingy which disables the acceleration in
the directfbrc, right ?


I've committed a patch now that always disables it for ppc.



Thanks,


I belive disabling hw acceleration on PPC machines is a good choice, as 
we're interested in stability, not performance, and i also belive 
performance drop won't be even detectable in the case of a simple DFB 
application like our GTK frontend.
By the way, i think disabling HW acceleration unconditionally for *every 
architecture* wouldn't be a bad idea, this could save us many a headache 
in the future.


Sven, looking at the PNG you posted it looks like the trashed banner 
colours issue we experienced at extremadura is gone, does also the 
cursor is displayed correctly (to grab both screen and pointer at DFB's 
level, you can press the PrtSc key in the case your PPC has one) ?


Any chanche to test if disabling HW acceleration also makes the g-i 
usable on machines equippped with ATI or NVIDIA graphic boards ( where 
atyfb and nvidiafb modules would be used in the case HW acceleration was 
not forced off ) ?


thanks

Attilio


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Re: Bladr GTK theme for g-i ready for packaging

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Denis Barbier wrote:

On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 04:10:09PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:


On Friday 22 September 2006 15:12, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:


I think we may want let icons PNGs in place because this would allow
me to replace the special PNGs used for the error (error_icon.png)
and warning (note_icon.png) questions with PNGs belonging to the
current theme in use (e.g.: stock_cancel.png and stock_apply.png ).
If denis could provide stock_apply.png, stock_cancel.png in
HignContrastLargeInverse too, also the accessibility theme could have
its own nice error and note icons.


I'm not objecting to anything that is used, but please do not include 
_anything_ that is not used. It can always be added in later when it is 
needed.



I concur, but for a slightly different reason.  The primary goal of an
accessibility theme is to be usable by disabled people which could not
use g-i otherwise.  This is not a cosmetic issue.
The HignContrastLargePrintInverse theme is usable without those icons,
so I hope that it can be enabled soon.  We could make it fancier later,
if we have some free space/memory, but honestly I much prefer having
a not appealing HignContrastLargePrintInverse theme than no theme at
all, this is a first step in the right direction.


ok, i agree not to add unnecesary PNGs to the accessibility GTK theme.
I 've just looked at theme PNGs in Bladr which are referred to by gtkrc

ls -l pixmaps | awk '{system(grep $8 gtkrc /dev/null; if [ $? -eq 0 
]; then echo $8 used_png; else echo $8 unused_png; fi)}'


and it turned out that below listed PNGs are *not* referred to by gtkrc.
Luca, are those PNGs really used ? in the case are not, can we remove 
them from the tarball to save up some space?


cheers

Attilio

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bladr/usr/share/themes/Bladr/gtk-2.0$ cat unused_png
arrow_down1.png
arrow_down2.png
arrow_left1.png
arrow_left2.png
arrow_right1.png
arrow_right2.png
arrow_up1.png
arrow_up2.png
blank.png
button1.png
button2.png
button3.png
button4.png
check1.png
check2.png
default.png
ext1.png
ext2.png
menu_background_4.png
menu-item.png
nautilus_back.png
notebook_top_flat_transparent.png
obutton1.png
obutton2.png
option1.png
option2.png
progressbar_3.png
radio1.png
radio2.png
scroll1.png
scroll2.png
scroll3.png
scroll4.png
SelectedTabTop_backup.png
shadow_out.png
spin1.png
spin2.png
spin3.png
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Re: [g-i] patch for the lines problem

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Loïc Minier wrote:

On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:

FYI, Mathias Classen said GTK+ 2.10.4 is going to be presumably released 
at the end of this week.



 I'm preparing 2.10.4, and it has some bug fixes, but it doesn't seem to
 change anything related to DFB.


No, nothing the end user will notice, but Mike Emmel did some code 
cleanup recently to remove long time hacks and now we should have what 
is going to be the definitive sourcecode base for the DFB backend.


Attilio


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 10:53:56AM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 Sven Luther wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 10:40:34PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 
 On Friday 22 September 2006 21:32, Sven Luther wrote:
 
 We did never implement the thingy which disables the acceleration in
 the directfbrc, right ?
 
 I've committed a patch now that always disables it for ppc.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 I belive disabling hw acceleration on PPC machines is a good choice, as 
 we're interested in stability, not performance, and i also belive 
 performance drop won't be even detectable in the case of a simple DFB 
 application like our GTK frontend.
 By the way, i think disabling HW acceleration unconditionally for *every 
 architecture* wouldn't be a bad idea, this could save us many a headache 
 in the future.

I would enable a 'secret' debconf switch to enable hw accel, be it only for
testing.

 Sven, looking at the PNG you posted it looks like the trashed banner 
 colours issue we experienced at extremadura is gone, does also the 
 cursor is displayed correctly (to grab both screen and pointer at DFB's 
 level, you can press the PrtSc key in the case your PPC has one) ?

The pegasos uses a normal PC keyboard, so i should have this key, but in any
case, indeed both these issues are gone, and the two new ones i mentioned are
there (the list selection dissapearance thingy). Do you see that on x86 also ?

Also, about the console font corruption with radeonfb, i would be interested
in feedback of if it is a powerpc only issue, or ppc stuff ? 

 Any chanche to test if disabling HW acceleration also makes the g-i 
 usable on machines equippped with ATI or NVIDIA graphic boards ( where 
 atyfb and nvidiafb modules would be used in the case HW acceleration was 
 not forced off ) ?

Nope, but as soon as the fixed rootskel-gtk is uploaded, we can issue a call
for testers on debian-powerpc, using the daily builds.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 12:07:45PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 Sven Luther wrote:
 
 snip/
 
 I belive disabling hw acceleration on PPC machines is a good choice, as 
 we're interested in stability, not performance, and i also belive 
 performance drop won't be even detectable in the case of a simple DFB 
 application like our GTK frontend.
 By the way, i think disabling HW acceleration unconditionally for *every 
 architecture* wouldn't be a bad idea, this could save us many a headache 
 in the future.
 
 
 I would enable a 'secret' debconf switch to enable hw accel, be it only for
 testing.
 
 That's a good idea.
 I also wonder if kernels shipped in d-i include or not modules for 
 hardware specific framebuffer devices, or generic drivers (like vesafb 
 on i386) only.

CONFIG_FB_CIRRUS=m
CONFIG_FB_OF=y
CONFIG_FB_CONTROL=y
CONFIG_FB_PLATINUM=y
CONFIG_FB_VALKYRIE=y
CONFIG_FB_CT65550=y
CONFIG_FB_IMSTT=y
CONFIG_FB_S1D13XXX=m
CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA=y
CONFIG_FB_MATROX=y
CONFIG_FB_MATROX_MILLENIUM=y
CONFIG_FB_MATROX_MYSTIQUE=y
CONFIG_FB_MATROX_G=y
CONFIG_FB_RADEON=y
CONFIG_FB_ATY128=y
CONFIG_FB_ATY=y
CONFIG_FB_SAVAGE=m
CONFIG_FB_SIS=y
CONFIG_FB_SIS_300=y
CONFIG_FB_SIS_315=y
CONFIG_FB_NEOMAGIC=m
CONFIG_FB_KYRO=m
CONFIG_FB_3DFX=y
CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT=m

So, on powerpc, we have : offb, controlfb, platinumfb, valkyriefb, imsttfb,
nvidiafb, matroxfb, radeonfb, aty128fb, atyfb, sisfb and 3dfxfb builtin.

cirrusfb, s1d13xxxfb (no idea what this one is), savagefb, neomagixfb, kyrofb
and tridentfb as modules.

 Sven, looking at the PNG you posted it looks like the trashed banner 
 colours issue we experienced at extremadura is gone, does also the 
 cursor is displayed correctly (to grab both screen and pointer at DFB's 
 level, you can press the PrtSc key in the case your PPC has one) ?
 
 
 The pegasos uses a normal PC keyboard, so i should have this key, but in 
 any
 case, indeed both these issues are gone, and the two new ones i mentioned 
 are
 there (the list selection dissapearance thingy). Do you see that on x86 
 also ?
 
 Yes, i saw the vanished lines in your screenshots and i belive this may 
 be #385026, which  is GTKDFB 2.8.x related and affects all HW platforms.
 As Frans said, this is a quite annoying bug and i'll try to see if i can 
 fix it in GTKDFB 2.8.20 with a small patch (but i'm not sure it's going 
 to be an easy fix).

Is it fixed in 2.10.x ? 

 Also, about the console font corruption with radeonfb, i would be 
 interested
 in feedback of if it is a powerpc only issue, or ppc stuff ? 
 
 No idea, i on no radeon boards :(

Someone else ? 

 Any chanche to test if disabling HW acceleration also makes the g-i 
 usable on machines equippped with ATI or NVIDIA graphic boards ( where 
 atyfb and nvidiafb modules would be used in the case HW acceleration was 
 not forced off ) ?
 
 
 Nope, but as soon as the fixed rootskel-gtk is uploaded, we can issue a 
 call
 for testers on debian-powerpc, using the daily builds.
 
 A round of PPC tests would be useful, especially it happens to find 
 owners of ATI or NVIDIA boards.

ati being mach64 (rage) and aty (rage 128) here.

Not sure if we ever had a success with g-i on oldworld, so it is less
important, and my prep box has a sis and a matrox, but g-i is too big to boot
on it. I do have a spare matox millenium i could plug in the pegasos, and just
got a xgi volari v3xt. Will test with them. nvidia is evil and should be
boycotted anyway :)

Friendly,

Sven Luther
 
 cheers
 
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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Sven Luther wrote:

snip/

I belive disabling hw acceleration on PPC machines is a good choice, as 
we're interested in stability, not performance, and i also belive 
performance drop won't be even detectable in the case of a simple DFB 
application like our GTK frontend.
By the way, i think disabling HW acceleration unconditionally for *every 
architecture* wouldn't be a bad idea, this could save us many a headache 
in the future.



I would enable a 'secret' debconf switch to enable hw accel, be it only for
testing.


That's a good idea.
I also wonder if kernels shipped in d-i include or not modules for 
hardware specific framebuffer devices, or generic drivers (like vesafb 
on i386) only.


Sven, looking at the PNG you posted it looks like the trashed banner 
colours issue we experienced at extremadura is gone, does also the 
cursor is displayed correctly (to grab both screen and pointer at DFB's 
level, you can press the PrtSc key in the case your PPC has one) ?



The pegasos uses a normal PC keyboard, so i should have this key, but in any
case, indeed both these issues are gone, and the two new ones i mentioned are
there (the list selection dissapearance thingy). Do you see that on x86 also ?


Yes, i saw the vanished lines in your screenshots and i belive this may 
be #385026, which  is GTKDFB 2.8.x related and affects all HW platforms.
As Frans said, this is a quite annoying bug and i'll try to see if i can 
fix it in GTKDFB 2.8.20 with a small patch (but i'm not sure it's going 
to be an easy fix).



Also, about the console font corruption with radeonfb, i would be interested
in feedback of if it is a powerpc only issue, or ppc stuff ? 


No idea, i on no radeon boards :(

Any chanche to test if disabling HW acceleration also makes the g-i 
usable on machines equippped with ATI or NVIDIA graphic boards ( where 
atyfb and nvidiafb modules would be used in the case HW acceleration was 
not forced off ) ?



Nope, but as soon as the fixed rootskel-gtk is uploaded, we can issue a call
for testers on debian-powerpc, using the daily builds.


A round of PPC tests would be useful, especially it happens to find 
owners of ATI or NVIDIA boards.


cheers

Attilio


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Re: Gtk 2.10 availability

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Frans Pop wrote:

On Wednesday 20 September 2006 11:00, Loïc Minier wrote:


Gtk 2.10.1-1 was uploaded yesterday to experimental (and 2.10.3-1
after dinstall).  This new upstream release is not compatible with
modules built with prior Gtk versions.  Some longstanding issues have
been addressed in this release as well.



I have tested g-i with the libs currently in experimental:
- libgtk* 2.10.3-3
- libcairo udeb 1.2.4-2

Unfortunately this results in the following screenshot.
http://people.debian.org/~fjp/d-i/g-i_boom.png

Although it is a very nice feature to be able to Etch-a-sketch with the 
installer (and very appropriate too), it does make installations 
impossible.


What happens is that on the first screen, I can use cursor keys and the 
mouse to select items, but as soon as I press enter or click the Continue 
button with the mouse, the installer freezes and I can Etch-a-sketch with 
the mouse.


Hey, now i remember i ran into a similar issue [1] some times ago.
I wasn't able to fix it, but i eventually concluded it was due to a 
memory corruption issue that affects GTK (or GLib or something else), no 
matter what GDK backend was used, and not the DFB backend (see gdb 
traces in the below thread).
Such a bug causes crashes with the DFB backend and on some test machines 
only, but never causes crashes with the X backend, even if memory 
corruption could be detected with gdb.
I never filed a bug into GNOME's bugzilla because no one ever was able 
to reproduce this bug, but if someone can manage to achieve this (Loic? 
:) we could file a proper bugreport to have ot fixed in next GTK release.


Attilio

[1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2006-July/msg00157.html


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Re: Gtk 2.10 availability

2006-09-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 23 September 2006 12:54, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 I never filed a bug into GNOME's bugzilla because no one ever was able
 to reproduce this bug, but if someone can manage to achieve this (Loic?

Well, I see it completely reliably with the image I built for 2.10 in 
vmware. Possibly the fact that it is vmware also makes it reproducible 
for others.


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Sven Luther wrote:

/snip


That's a good idea.
I also wonder if kernels shipped in d-i include or not modules for 
hardware specific framebuffer devices, or generic drivers (like vesafb 
on i386) only.



CONFIG_FB_CIRRUS=m
CONFIG_FB_OF=y
CONFIG_FB_CONTROL=y
CONFIG_FB_PLATINUM=y
CONFIG_FB_VALKYRIE=y
CONFIG_FB_CT65550=y
CONFIG_FB_IMSTT=y
CONFIG_FB_S1D13XXX=m
CONFIG_FB_NVIDIA=y
CONFIG_FB_MATROX=y
CONFIG_FB_MATROX_MILLENIUM=y
CONFIG_FB_MATROX_MYSTIQUE=y
CONFIG_FB_MATROX_G=y
CONFIG_FB_RADEON=y
CONFIG_FB_ATY128=y
CONFIG_FB_ATY=y
CONFIG_FB_SAVAGE=m
CONFIG_FB_SIS=y
CONFIG_FB_SIS_300=y
CONFIG_FB_SIS_315=y
CONFIG_FB_NEOMAGIC=m
CONFIG_FB_KYRO=m
CONFIG_FB_3DFX=y
CONFIG_FB_TRIDENT=m

So, on powerpc, we have : offb, controlfb, platinumfb, valkyriefb, imsttfb,
nvidiafb, matroxfb, radeonfb, aty128fb, atyfb, sisfb and 3dfxfb builtin.

cirrusfb, s1d13xxxfb (no idea what this one is), savagefb, neomagixfb, kyrofb
and tridentfb as modules.


looking at DFB's supported-hardware page

http://www.directfb.org/index.php?path=Main%2FSupport%2FGraphics

i can see some of those fb modules may allow DFB to run in hw 
accelerated mode, but for many of them no functionality tests on PPC 
hardware were ever peformed, so i guess disabling HW acceleration tout 
court for PPC was indeed the right choice for safeness.
Speaking generically, i don't know how much is safe having DFB running 
in accelerated mode using fb module X on architecture Y.
An extensive set of tests to detect bad X,Y couples looks dificlut to be 
performed, so to be sure the end-user never runs in a bad X,Y situation, 
a safe choice would be disabling hw acceleration by defalut, for all 
architectures.


Sven, looking at the PNG you posted it looks like the trashed banner 
colours issue we experienced at extremadura is gone, does also the 
cursor is displayed correctly (to grab both screen and pointer at DFB's 
level, you can press the PrtSc key in the case your PPC has one) ?



The pegasos uses a normal PC keyboard, so i should have this key, but in 
any
case, indeed both these issues are gone, and the two new ones i mentioned 
are
there (the list selection dissapearance thingy). Do you see that on x86 
also ?


Yes, i saw the vanished lines in your screenshots and i belive this may 
be #385026, which  is GTKDFB 2.8.x related and affects all HW platforms.
As Frans said, this is a quite annoying bug and i'll try to see if i can 
fix it in GTKDFB 2.8.20 with a small patch (but i'm not sure it's going 
to be an easy fix).



Is it fixed in 2.10.x ? 


Basing on my past tests with different GTK+ 2.10 versions, it is.

Also, about the console font corruption with radeonfb, i would be 
interested
in feedback of if it is a powerpc only issue, or ppc stuff ? 


No idea, i on no radeon boards :(



Someone else ? 



Any chanche to test if disabling HW acceleration also makes the g-i 
usable on machines equippped with ATI or NVIDIA graphic boards ( where 
atyfb and nvidiafb modules would be used in the case HW acceleration was 
not forced off ) ?



Nope, but as soon as the fixed rootskel-gtk is uploaded, we can issue a 
call

for testers on debian-powerpc, using the daily builds.


A round of PPC tests would be useful, especially it happens to find 
owners of ATI or NVIDIA boards.



ati being mach64 (rage) and aty (rage 128) here.

Not sure if we ever had a success with g-i on oldworld, so it is less
important, and my prep box has a sis and a matrox, but g-i is too big to boot
on it. I do have a spare matox millenium i could plug in the pegasos, and just
got a xgi volari v3xt. Will test with them. nvidia is evil and should be
boycotted anyway :)


On my PReP 7043/140 box i experienced success in running unaccelerated 
DFB applications with a Matrox card some times ago, but i never managed 
to test GTKDFB applications.


cheers

Attilio


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Re: Gtk 2.10 availability

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Frans Pop wrote:

On Saturday 23 September 2006 12:54, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:


I never filed a bug into GNOME's bugzilla because no one ever was able
to reproduce this bug, but if someone can manage to achieve this (Loic?



Well, I see it completely reliably with the image I built for 2.10 in 
vmware. Possibly the fact that it is vmware also makes it reproducible 
for others.


if we could build a 2.10.x ISO with debugging symbols for GTK+, and 
processes run within vmware could be debugged remotlely using gdb (like 
qemu allows to do), this could be a a good proof for the bug.

Meanwhile, let's see if can reproduced with GTKX 2.10.4.

Attilio


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Sven Luther wrote:

snip/

Yes, i saw the vanished lines in your screenshots and i belive this may 
be #385026, which  is GTKDFB 2.8.x related and affects all HW platforms.
As Frans said, this is a quite annoying bug and i'll try to see if i can 
fix it in GTKDFB 2.8.20 with a small patch (but i'm not sure it's going 
to be an easy fix).



Is it fixed in 2.10.x ? 


Basing on my past tests with different GTK+ 2.10 versions, it is.



This would be a reason to go with gtk 2.10.x, those packages are built and
uploaded to experimental, right ? So we could do a second build using the 2.10
stuff ? 


Yes, GDKDFB backend found in 2.10.4 is more stable and clean than one 
found in 2.8.20, which is an old backported DFB backend some months old.
If we can fix this issue[1] before GTK 2.10.5 is out, we may prefer 
switching to GTK 2.10.5 later, otherwise we may need to backport current 
GDKDFB backend from 2.10.4 to 2.8.20 for immediate use.
2.10.x, compared to 2.8.x, offers nothing we really need, but of course 
avoiding dirty backports wouldn't be bad!


[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/09/msg00995.html

cheers

Attilio


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 12:45:10PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 looking at DFB's supported-hardware page
 
 http://www.directfb.org/index.php?path=Main%2FSupport%2FGraphics
 
 i can see some of those fb modules may allow DFB to run in hw 
 accelerated mode, but for many of them no functionality tests on PPC 
 hardware were ever peformed, so i guess disabling HW acceleration tout 
 court for PPC was indeed the right choice for safeness.
 Speaking generically, i don't know how much is safe having DFB running 
 in accelerated mode using fb module X on architecture Y.
 An extensive set of tests to detect bad X,Y couples looks dificlut to be 
 performed, so to be sure the end-user never runs in a bad X,Y situation, 
 a safe choice would be disabling hw acceleration by defalut, for all 
 architectures.

Understood.

 Sven, looking at the PNG you posted it looks like the trashed banner 
 colours issue we experienced at extremadura is gone, does also the 
 cursor is displayed correctly (to grab both screen and pointer at DFB's 
 level, you can press the PrtSc key in the case your PPC has one) ?
 
 
 The pegasos uses a normal PC keyboard, so i should have this key, but in 
 any
 case, indeed both these issues are gone, and the two new ones i 
 mentioned are
 there (the list selection dissapearance thingy). Do you see that on x86 
 also ?
 
 Yes, i saw the vanished lines in your screenshots and i belive this may 
 be #385026, which  is GTKDFB 2.8.x related and affects all HW platforms.
 As Frans said, this is a quite annoying bug and i'll try to see if i can 
 fix it in GTKDFB 2.8.20 with a small patch (but i'm not sure it's going 
 to be an easy fix).
 
 
 Is it fixed in 2.10.x ? 
 
 Basing on my past tests with different GTK+ 2.10 versions, it is.

This would be a reason to go with gtk 2.10.x, those packages are built and
uploaded to experimental, right ? So we could do a second build using the 2.10
stuff ? 

 Not sure if we ever had a success with g-i on oldworld, so it is less
 important, and my prep box has a sis and a matrox, but g-i is too big to 
 boot
 on it. I do have a spare matox millenium i could plug in the pegasos, and 
 just
 got a xgi volari v3xt. Will test with them. nvidia is evil and should be
 boycotted anyway :)
 
 On my PReP 7043/140 box i experienced success in running unaccelerated 
 DFB applications with a Matrox card some times ago, but i never managed 
 to test GTKDFB applications.

The problem on PReP is getting it to load the huge g-i initrd, not really
running apps afterward, altough this would indicate there is a serious problem
with matroxfb maybe.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 01:56:40PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 Sven Luther wrote:
 
 snip/
 
 Yes, i saw the vanished lines in your screenshots and i belive this may 
 be #385026, which  is GTKDFB 2.8.x related and affects all HW platforms.
 As Frans said, this is a quite annoying bug and i'll try to see if i 
 can fix it in GTKDFB 2.8.20 with a small patch (but i'm not sure it's 
 going to be an easy fix).
 
 
 Is it fixed in 2.10.x ? 
 
 Basing on my past tests with different GTK+ 2.10 versions, it is.
 
 
 This would be a reason to go with gtk 2.10.x, those packages are built and
 uploaded to experimental, right ? So we could do a second build using the 
 2.10
 stuff ? 
 
 Yes, GDKDFB backend found in 2.10.4 is more stable and clean than one 
 found in 2.8.20, which is an old backported DFB backend some months old.
 If we can fix this issue[1] before GTK 2.10.5 is out, we may prefer 
 switching to GTK 2.10.5 later, otherwise we may need to backport current 
 GDKDFB backend from 2.10.4 to 2.8.20 for immediate use.
 2.10.x, compared to 2.8.x, offers nothing we really need, but of course 
 avoiding dirty backports wouldn't be bad!
 
 [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/09/msg00995.html

That would be the BOOM issue, right, in my experience, from my X hacking days,
is that stuff like this happens when the refresh is no more happening, and
when one is using a software cursor, which is still working or something.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: [D-I] mass kernel udeb update and preparations for RC1

2006-09-23 Thread maximilian attems
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 02:31:43PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
  * 2.4 support now officially dropped
Starting with RC1 d-i will no longer support 2.4 based installations.
All arches have been switched now and some cleanup has been started;
more cleanup is expected and this may cause unexpected breakage.
:)

  * powerpc: oldworld boot problems with recent kernels

benh made a patch that still needs confirmation,
patch is included in latest 2.6.18

regards

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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
Mmm,

nogo on the xgi card, since 2.6.16/17 have the sisfb framebuffer device not
builtin, but modular.

Is there some place where we can do some kind of framebuffer device detection,
and loading of the appropriate modules ? Where is it done for vesafb, which if
i am not wrong, is modular on x86 ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 23 September 2006 16:17, Sven Luther wrote:
 Is there some place where we can do some kind of framebuffer device
 detection, and loading of the appropriate modules ? Where is it done
 for vesafb, which if i am not wrong, is modular on x86 ?

That should also be an issue for the newt frontend then...

See:
rootskel/src/lib/debian-installer-startup.d/S40framebuffer-module-linux-*


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 23 September 2006 12:45, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 Speaking generically, i don't know how much is safe having DFB running
 in accelerated mode using fb module X on architecture Y.
 An extensive set of tests to detect bad X,Y couples looks dificlut to
 be performed, so to be sure the end-user never runs in a bad X,Y
 situation, a safe choice would be disabling hw acceleration by defalut,
 for all architectures.

On the other hand, that does not really help directfb development...

But I've now changed rootskel-gtk so that no-hardware is set by default 
but hardware acceleration can be enabled with directfb/hw-accel=true.


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Re: [D-I] mass kernel udeb update and preparations for RC1

2006-09-23 Thread Grant Grundler
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 02:31:43PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 (Reply-to set to debian-boot; please only add relevant port if needed.)
 [ offlist ]

 /me wonders why there have been almost no reactions to this mail
 The first part is mostly information (though a cool or thanks would be 
 appreciated),

Thanks! :)

I don't respond to every mail just because it feels like noise
to get back a ton a short emails. But I do appreciate the effort
you've put into it and am very impressed that mass uploads
are even possible.

  but the second part has some issues that need attention.

I didn't see anything for parisc (HPPA).
I don't know of any problems with initramfs on parisc.
but I don't expect any surprises from the kernel on that.


 Have D-I porters actually read the mail?

Yes - I did.

 Is it useful that I send such mails at all?

Yes.

kudos and thanks!
grant


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pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6/ppp-modules-2.6.17-2-486-di_1.37_i386.udeb
qnx4-modules-2.6.17-2-486-di_1.37_i386.udeb
  to 
pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6/qnx4-modules-2.6.17-2-486-di_1.37_i386.udeb
reiserfs-modules-2.6.17-2-486-di_1.37_i386.udeb
  to 
pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6/reiserfs-modules-2.6.17-2-486-di_1.37_i386.udeb
sata-modules-2.6.17-2-486-di_1.37_i386.udeb
  to 
pool/main/l/linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6/sata-modules-2.6.17-2-486-di_1.37_i386.udeb
scsi-common-modules-2.6.17-2-486-di_1.37_i386.udeb
  to 

rootskel-gtk_0.11_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2006-09-23 Thread Debian Installer

Accepted:
rootskel-gtk_0.11.dsc
  to pool/main/r/rootskel-gtk/rootskel-gtk_0.11.dsc
rootskel-gtk_0.11.tar.gz
  to pool/main/r/rootskel-gtk/rootskel-gtk_0.11.tar.gz
rootskel-gtk_0.11_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/r/rootskel-gtk/rootskel-gtk_0.11_i386.udeb


Override entries for your package:
rootskel-gtk_0.11.dsc - source debian-installer
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Re: [D-I] mass kernel udeb update and preparations for RC1

2006-09-23 Thread Jeff Sadowski
I like knowing what is going on thanks for the updates ;-)There is an old UNIX addage. No news is good news.But then again there are some of us that like hearing about the good stuff.
On 9/22/06, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Reply-to set to debian-boot; please only add relevant port if needed.)/me wonders why there have been almost no reactions to this mailThe first part is mostly information (though a cool or thanks would be
appreciated), but the second part has some issues that need attention.Have D-I porters actually read the mail?Is it useful that I send such mails at all?On Sunday 17 September 2006 14:28, Frans Pop wrote:
 Dear (d-i) porters, First mass upload of kernel udebs = Today I have uploaded kernel udeb updates to 2.6.17-9 _for all arches_. This is the first time using the 'massbuild' [1] script I wrote
 recently. Effectively this means that d-i porters won't really have to worry anymore about updating kernel udebs after uploads by the kernel team. Only if the kernel major/minor changes will I request porters to do the
 upload themselves. For stable releases (including ABI changes) I intend to do these mass builds and do the uploads myself. Hopefully this will help the speed with which kernel udebs are updated
 and allow you all to spend more time testing d-i ;-) Of course porters are still responsible for maintaining which modules will be included for each arch/flavor. If you have changes between
 kernel major/minor releases you can either commit them and upload, or commit them as UNRELEASED and they will be automatically included in the next mass build. The massbuild script can be used for single-arch builds too. Its main
 advantage is that kernel images don't need to be installed and the certainty that the correct kernel version will be used. Feel free to contact me to help you get started. Some comments on today's upload:
 - I have used the last released version of kernel-wedge and will normally do that in the future too - I have not really checked or tested the udebs [2], so there could be some surprises; please be alert for them
 - m68k: I had to update the dependencies from kernel-image to linux-image The road to RC1 === We are slowly moving towards RC1. I plan to post an initial planning
 later this week. As we get closer to Etch, testing the installer for all arches gets to be more important. Any time you can spend on that is very much appreciated. There are some issues that need attention:
 * type of initrd used Some arches have already switched to using initramfs for d-i initrds, other arches are still using cramfs or ext2. Please check if a change could/should be made for your architecture.
 * 2.4 support now officially dropped Starting with RC1 d-i will no longer support 2.4 based installations. All arches have been switched now and some cleanup has been started; more cleanup is expected and this may cause unexpected breakage.
 * support for non-devfs device names Colin Watson has committed a series of changes to make d-i support non-devfs device names. We will be slowly moving away from using devfs names, but the most intrusive work will be postponed until
 after Etch. Please check for unexpected breakage though. * partman-auto using LVM and crypto partman-auto-lvm now has been available for some time, but is still not available for all arches. LVM support is a prerequisite for
 partman-auto-crypto support which will be uploaded soon. Note: swap on LVM should be possible now and is even required for partman-auto-crypto. If you would like to add support for it, please see [3]. Feel free
 to contact me or David Härdeman (Alphix) for help. * mips: keyboard issues We've had a report about a dead keyboard on installation (#382983). This needs to be investigated.
 * powerpc: oldworld boot problems with recent kernels If there are other architecture specific issues that we should be aware of, please let me know. Cheers, FJP
 [1] http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/d-i/people/fjp/massbuild?op=filerev=0sc=0 [2] The script does have a number of sanity checks though.
 [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg01054.html


Re: Gtk 2.10 availability

2006-09-23 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 I never filed a bug into GNOME's bugzilla because no one ever was able 
 to reproduce this bug, but if someone can manage to achieve this (Loic? 
 :) we could file a proper bugreport to have ot fixed in next GTK release.

 I would be happy to be a test puppet, but one of the reason I requested
 testing of Gtk 2.10 + DirectFB was that I don't know how to test it.  I
 know it sounds a bit irresponsible, so I did my best to verify that I
 didn't break anything incrementally (but I still missed some stuff).

 I don't want you to lose too much time explaining me with details how
 your test environment is built, but if you could give some high level
 hints on the process you follow to test, what you test, and how you
 debug, that would be really nice.  If such a documentation already
 exist, that would be nice!

 The most effective way for me would be to be able to test binaries from
 my laptop, perhaps from a different VT.  I understand I might need to
 boot some d-i builds via the network or a CD in some cases.  I also
 have a Xen setup, it it can help in any tests, and even a VMWare
 Workstation license (didn't update the kernel modules to 2.6.17
 though).

 Thanks in advance for your help!  Please don't feel obliged to document
 this in great length, I don't want to waste *your* time.

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Re: Gtk 2.10 availability

2006-09-23 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 if we could build a 2.10.x ISO with debugging symbols for GTK+, and 
 processes run within vmware could be debugged remotlely using gdb (like 
 qemu allows to do), this could be a a good proof for the bug.
 Meanwhile, let's see if can reproduced with GTKX 2.10.4.

 What would be the best way to have debug symbols?  libgtk2.0-0-dbg has
 the debug symbols of both flavors of Gtk, for example it has:
/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgdk-directfb-2.0.so.0.1000.3
/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgtk-directfb-2.0.so.0.1000.3

 Some objects are built with both flavors, I'm not sure whether the
 debug symbols are for both or only one particular flavor.

 Perhaps you simply want a build with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip noopt
 of the udeb?

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Re: [D-I] mass kernel udeb update and preparations for RC1

2006-09-23 Thread Alan Ianson
On Fri September 22 2006 05:31, Frans Pop wrote:

 /me wonders why there have been almost no reactions to this mail
 The first part is mostly information (though a cool or thanks would be
 appreciated), but the second part has some issues that need attention.

I'll give this post a cool and a thanks! :)

I can't add much to it but I do like to see etch (and the kernel) moving along 
to the stable release.

I say thanks to everyone who has had a hand in making this happen.


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Re: Gtk 2.10 availability

2006-09-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 23 September 2006 19:22, Loïc Minier wrote:
  What would be the best way to have debug symbols?  libgtk2.0-0-dbg has
  the debug symbols of both flavors of Gtk, for example it has:
 /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgdk-directfb-2.0.so.0.1000.3
 /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgtk-directfb-2.0.so.0.1000.3

  Some objects are built with both flavors, I'm not sure whether the
  debug symbols are for both or only one particular flavor.

  Perhaps you simply want a build with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip noopt
  of the udeb?

I don't think we want a debug udeb in the archive. If someone needs 
debugging symbols, he can (I suppose) quite easily do a local build with 
debugging enabled and use that when bulding d-i images.

Thanks for the offer though.


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 05:09:15PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Saturday 23 September 2006 16:17, Sven Luther wrote:
  Is there some place where we can do some kind of framebuffer device
  detection, and loading of the appropriate modules ? Where is it done
  for vesafb, which if i am not wrong, is modular on x86 ?
 
 That should also be an issue for the newt frontend then...

Indeed. Also, given the way initramfs is initialized very early, i have had
some thoughts of moving all the builtin framebuffer devices into the
initramfs, and then have some kind of kernel fbdev hook or something which
will load it. Need to find time to investigate this.

 See:
 rootskel/src/lib/debian-installer-startup.d/S40framebuffer-module-linux-*

Cool,

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Frans Pop wrote:

On Saturday 23 September 2006 12:45, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:


Speaking generically, i don't know how much is safe having DFB running
in accelerated mode using fb module X on architecture Y.
An extensive set of tests to detect bad X,Y couples looks dificlut to
be performed, so to be sure the end-user never runs in a bad X,Y
situation, a safe choice would be disabling hw acceleration by defalut,
for all architectures.



On the other hand, that does not really help directfb development...

But I've now changed rootskel-gtk so that no-hardware is set by default 
but hardware acceleration can be enabled with directfb/hw-accel=true.


IMHO i still think this was a wise move, since it solves a wide range of 
potential problems and the boot time option you introduced still allows 
people who want to debug DFB's hw acceleration to do it.
The d-i ISO itself could become a useful tool for directfb developers to 
test DFB's HW accelerated functionalities on a wide range of different 
HW configurations.


cheers

Attilio


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Bug#389074: kernel-wedge: 2.6.18 kernel has raid456 instead of raid5 module.

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
Package: kernel-wedge
Version: 1.20
Severity: normal


As subject says, please find attached patch.

Friendly,

Sven Luther

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-1-powerpc
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Index: linux-kernel-di-powerpc-2.6/kernel-versions
===
--- linux-kernel-di-powerpc-2.6/kernel-versions (revision 40861)
+++ linux-kernel-di-powerpc-2.6/kernel-versions (working copy)
@@ -1,4 +1,5 @@
 # arch   version  flavour  installedname   suffix  
build-depends
-powerpc  2.6.17-2 powerpc  2.6.17-2-powerpc-   
linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc
-powerpc  2.6.17-2 powerpc642.6.17-2-powerpc64  -   
linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc64
-powerpc  2.6.17-2 powerpc-miboot   2.6.17-2-powerpc-miboot -   
linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc-miboot
+powerpc  2.6.18-1 powerpc  2.6.18-1-powerpc-   
linux-image-2.6.18-1-powerpc
+#powerpc  2.6.18-1 powerpc64   2.6.18-1-powerpc64  -   
linux-image-2.6.18-1-powerpc64
+#powerpc  2.6.18-1 powerpc-miboot  2.6.18-1-powerpc-miboot -   
linux-image-2.6.18-1-powerpc-miboot
+#powerpc  2.6.18-1 prep2.6.18-1-prep   -   
linux-image-2.6.18-1-prep
Index: kernel-wedge/debian/changelog
===
--- kernel-wedge/debian/changelog   (revision 40836)
+++ kernel-wedge/debian/changelog   (working copy)
@@ -1,9 +1,14 @@
 kernel-wedge (2.27) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
 
+  [ Joey Hess ]
   * Fix exclusion of optional modules to work.
 
- -- Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:04:32 -0400
+  [ Sven Luther ]
+  * Optionalized raid5 and added optional raid456, since 2.6.18 kernels
+renamed the raid module (and added support for raid4 and raid6).
 
+ -- Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:51:54 +0200
+
 kernel-wedge (2.26) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * mark scsi modules optional that aren't available for ia64:
Index: kernel-wedge/modules/md-modules
===
--- kernel-wedge/modules/md-modules (revision 40836)
+++ kernel-wedge/modules/md-modules (working copy)
@@ -7,7 +7,8 @@
 multipath
 raid0
 raid1
-raid5
+raid5 ?
+raid456 ?
 xor
 dm-mirror ?
 dm-snapshot ?


Bug#389079: partman-md: 2.6.18 kernel renamed raid5 module to raid456.

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
Package: partman-md
Severity: normal


FYI, so partman-md doesn't break once 2.6.18 is uploaded to unstable and
migrated to testing, especially important since 2.6.18 is the etch target
release kernel.

Friendly,

Sven Luther

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Re: Gtk 2.10 availability

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Loïc Minier wrote:

On Sat, Sep 23, 2006, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:

I never filed a bug into GNOME's bugzilla because no one ever was able 
to reproduce this bug, but if someone can manage to achieve this (Loic? 
:) we could file a proper bugreport to have ot fixed in next GTK release.



 I would be happy to be a test puppet, but one of the reason I requested
 testing of Gtk 2.10 + DirectFB was that I don't know how to test it.  I
 know it sounds a bit irresponsible, so I did my best to verify that I
 didn't break anything incrementally (but I still missed some stuff).

 I don't want you to lose too much time explaining me with details how
 your test environment is built, but if you could give some high level
 hints on the process you follow to test, what you test, and how you
 debug, that would be really nice.  If such a documentation already
 exist, that would be nice!

 The most effective way for me would be to be able to test binaries from
 my laptop, perhaps from a different VT.  I understand I might need to
 boot some d-i builds via the network or a CD in some cases.  I also
 have a Xen setup, it it can help in any tests, and even a VMWare
 Workstation license (didn't update the kernel modules to 2.6.17
 though).

 Thanks in advance for your help!  Please don't feel obliged to document
 this in great length, I don't want to waste *your* time.


First, the bad news: GTK 2.10.4 has a broken DFB backend, as an old 
bugfix [1] by Mike Emmel icluded in CVS was not relesed, so to get a 
working GTKDFB library you'll have to use sources form CVS HEAD.
In addition to this, the bug i posted about in July still affects GTK 
CVS HEAD, so i think this is enough to try re-backporting from scratch 
the HEAD GDKDFB to 2.8.20 (current DFB backend in debian unstable is 
dated around May 2006).
Your help in testing and debugging GTKDFB would be really useful and 
appreciated: what i usually do to is compiling GTKDFB with debugging 
symbols, and then running a GTK application like gtk-demo or the GIMP 
within gdb.
I have no special methods to test the d-i but runing it into a chroot 
cage and attaching gdb at it.
I know davide viti used to attach gdb to the debconf process running in 
qemu, but i've never done this by myself.


cheers

Attilio

[1] http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gtk%2B/gtk/Makefile.am?r1=1.315r2=1.316


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Bug#389088: Segfault when taking a screenshot after disk partitioning

2006-09-23 Thread Christoph Haas
Package: cdebconf-gtk-udeb

I just tried todays Etch beta netinstall install CD with the graphical 
install (installgui). When the partitioning step is done and the computer 
starts to actually do something in the background (probably writing the 
partition table or mkfs) it seems to be unwise to click on 
the Screenshot button. I got thrown to the text console and saw a 
segfault. Then the partitioning manager was started again and at least I 
could start from scratch.

 Christoph


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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 12:45:10PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 looking at DFB's supported-hardware page
 
 http://www.directfb.org/index.php?path=Main%2FSupport%2FGraphics

Well, ...

I did some try with my xgi card, and even though i disabled hardware
acceleration, this is a nogo. I ended up in a messed up text terminal (with
black blocks and â chars for the box borders and shadow).

So, it is clear that directfb needs not only the per-card drivers for
acceleration, but also for normal usage.

That said, i couldn't find any kind of directfb log or something, so maybe the
above guess was bad, and something else funny happened, since that was with a
2.6.18 kernel.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Eddy Petrişor

On 23/09/06, Attilio Fiandrotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Also, about the console font corruption with radeonfb, i would be interested
 in feedback of if it is a powerpc only issue, or ppc stuff ?

No idea, i on no radeon boards :(


$ lspci  | grep ATI
:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350
[Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]


Any chanche to test if disabling HW acceleration also makes the g-i
usable on machines equippped with ATI or NVIDIA graphic boards ( where
atyfb and nvidiafb modules would be used in the case HW acceleration was
not forced off ) ?


 Nope, but as soon as the fixed rootskel-gtk is uploaded, we can issue a call
 for testers on debian-powerpc, using the daily builds.

A round of PPC tests would be useful, especially it happens to find
owners of ATI or NVIDIA boards.


Got one.

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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 10:13:10PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 12:45:10PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
  looking at DFB's supported-hardware page
  
  http://www.directfb.org/index.php?path=Main%2FSupport%2FGraphics
 
 Well, ...
 
 I did some try with my xgi card, and even though i disabled hardware
 acceleration, this is a nogo. I ended up in a messed up text terminal (with
 black blocks and â chars for the box borders and shadow).
 
 So, it is clear that directfb needs not only the per-card drivers for
 acceleration, but also for normal usage.
 
 That said, i couldn't find any kind of directfb log or something, so maybe the
 above guess was bad, and something else funny happened, since that was with a
 2.6.18 kernel.

DirectFB only supports :

  FB_ACCEL_SIS_GLAMOUR_2
  FB_ACCEL_SIS_XABRE

While my card is :

FB_ACCEL_XGI_VOLARI_V

But that is only for accel. I didn't find where the pci ids are checked, but
maybe this is related to the sis-xgi vendor id change.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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2006-09-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 11:35:28PM +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
 On 23/09/06, Attilio Fiandrotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Also, about the console font corruption with radeonfb, i would be 
 interested
  in feedback of if it is a powerpc only issue, or ppc stuff ?
 
 No idea, i on no radeon boards :(
 
 $ lspci  | grep ATI
 :00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350
 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

So, do you see the garbage in the console too ? 

Ah, but i suppose you don't use radeonfb, but vesafb, right ? 

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Sven Luther wrote:

On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 10:13:10PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:


On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 12:45:10PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:


looking at DFB's supported-hardware page

http://www.directfb.org/index.php?path=Main%2FSupport%2FGraphics


Well, ...

I did some try with my xgi card, and even though i disabled hardware
acceleration, this is a nogo. I ended up in a messed up text terminal (with
black blocks and â chars for the box borders and shadow).

So, it is clear that directfb needs not only the per-card drivers for
acceleration, but also for normal usage.

That said, i couldn't find any kind of directfb log or something, so maybe the
above guess was bad, and something else funny happened, since that was with a
2.6.18 kernel.



DirectFB only supports :

  FB_ACCEL_SIS_GLAMOUR_2
  FB_ACCEL_SIS_XABRE

While my card is :

FB_ACCEL_XGI_VOLARI_V

But that is only for accel. I didn't find where the pci ids are checked, but
maybe this is related to the sis-xgi vendor id change.


IIUC, you loaded the per-card (SiS) fb device, but DFB ran unaccelerated 
because it didn't recognize the board and furthermore acceleration was 
forced off, right?
In this case i wonder where the bug is, in the framebuffer device or in 
DFB card-indipendent code?

Should we start x-posting on directfb-devel to get an expert help?

Attilio



Bug#389092: etch-beta-installer: can't install KDE from graphical installer

2006-09-23 Thread Christoph Haas
Package: tasksel
Version: etch-beta-installer
Severity: minor

I just tried today's Etch beta netinst install CD. Since I was curious I
tried the graphical installer (installgui installation mode). When the
'tasksel' step was reached I wished I could have installed KDE. But
there was only a Desktop task that installed a Gnome system. How can a
user install KDE directly during the installation phase from the
graphical installer?

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Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-2-686
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.4.3-1terminal-based apt frontend
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.4  Debian configuration management sy
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.05-1 Using libc functions for internati
ii  tasksel-data  2.54   Official tasks used for installati

tasksel recommends no packages.

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Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Sven Luther wrote:

On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 12:45:10PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:


looking at DFB's supported-hardware page

http://www.directfb.org/index.php?path=Main%2FSupport%2FGraphics



Well, ...

I did some try with my xgi card, and even though i disabled hardware
acceleration, this is a nogo. I ended up in a messed up text terminal (with
black blocks and â chars for the box borders and shadow).

So, it is clear that directfb needs not only the per-card drivers for
acceleration, but also for normal usage.


You're talking about per-card framebuffer devices, not per-card DFB 
gfxdrivers, right?
On i386 the vesafb device can be used in place of card-specific fb 
devices and DFB will run unaccelerated on top of it.

Does a device driver equivalent to vesafb exists for PPCs?


That said, i couldn't find any kind of directfb log or something, so maybe the
above guess was bad, and something else funny happened, since that was with a
2.6.18 kernel.


Usually DFB produces some debug output on VT1, can you get any info there?

Attilio



Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Attilio Fiandrotti

Eddy Petrişor wrote:

snip/


A round of PPC tests would be useful, especially it happens to find
owners of ATI or NVIDIA boards.



Got one.


Eddy, do you have the chance to test if forcing off DFB's HW 
acceleration makes g-i run on your Mac?




Bug#389079: partman-md: 2.6.18 kernel renamed raid5 module to raid456.

2006-09-23 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 389079 mdcfg
tags 389079 + pending
thanks

On Saturday 23 September 2006 21:05, Sven Luther wrote:
 FYI, so partman-md doesn't break once 2.6.18 is uploaded to unstable
 and migrated to testing, especially important since 2.6.18 is the etch
 target release kernel.

Module loading updated in:
- mdcfg
- partman-auto-raid
- rescue

For now both new and old modules are tried.


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Re: Gtk 2.10 availability

2006-09-23 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 First, the bad news: GTK 2.10.4 has a broken DFB backend, as an old 
 bugfix [1] by Mike Emmel icluded in CVS was not relesed, so to get a 
 working GTKDFB library you'll have to use sources form CVS HEAD.

 The link you're giving seems like the solution of the bug I've searched
 the last hour or so.  If it's only that, it should be easy to include
 in the Debian packages, thanks for the pointer.

 In addition to this, the bug i posted about in July still affects GTK 
 CVS HEAD, so i think this is enough to try re-backporting from scratch 
 the HEAD GDKDFB to 2.8.20 (current DFB backend in debian unstable is 
 dated around May 2006).

 I checked with Joss, and he said you did the backporting.  Would you
 provide a similar patch or explain the process you followed to make it?

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Bug#389096: installation-reports

2006-09-23 Thread Ralf Cremer
Package: installation-reports

Boot method:  CD
Image version: From sources.list: deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - 
Official Snapshot amd64 Binary-1 (20060810)]
Date: 2006-08-30

Machine: Selfmade: MSI K8N-SLI, 3x250GB SATA as RAID with LVM
Processor:AMD64 3000+
Memory: # free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   33515123306688  44824  0 2366242181348
-/+ buffers/cache: 8887162462796
Swap:  97672883169766972

Partitions: df -Tl will do; the raw partition table is preferred
# df -Tl
Dateisystem   Typ1K-Blöcke   Benutzt Verfügbar Ben% Eingehängt auf
/dev/mapper/RAID-root
  ext310321208484008   9312912   5% /
tmpfstmpfs 167575612   1675744   1% /dev/shm
/dev/md1  ext3   90195 12223 73160  15% /boot
/dev/mapper/RAID-home
  ext382569904  67374696  11000904  86% /home
/dev/mapper/RAID-mmedia
  ext3   247709760 199405572  35721276  85% /mmedia
/dev/mapper/RAID-srv
  ext361927420  34753148  24028544  60% /srv
/dev/mapper/RAID-tmp
  ext2 4128448   156   3918580   1% /tmp
/dev/mapper/RAID-usr
  ext3 5160576   4463008435424  92% /usr
/dev/mapper/RAID-var
  ext3 4128448651452   3267284  17% /var
tmpfstmpfs   10240   116 10124   2% /dev

Output of lspci and lspci -n:
lspci
00:00.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a4)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a4)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a4)
00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio 
Controller (rev a2)
00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev f3)
00:07.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3)
00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3)
00:09.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3)
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3)
00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3)
00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM 
Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
01:06.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] 
(rev 08)
01:07.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7892A U160/m (rev 02)
01:09.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7861 (rev 01)
01:0c.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller 
(rev 80)
05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 LE] 
(rev a1)


lspci -n
00:00.0 0580: 10de:005e (rev a4)
00:01.0 0601: 10de:0050 (rev a4)
00:01.1 0c05: 10de:0052 (rev a2)
00:02.0 0c03: 10de:005a (rev a2)
00:02.1 0c03: 10de:005b (rev a4)
00:04.0 0401: 10de:0059 (rev a2)
00:06.0 0101: 10de:0053 (rev f3)
00:07.0 0101: 10de:0054 (rev f3)
00:08.0 0101: 10de:0055 (rev f3)
00:09.0 0604: 10de:005c (rev a2)
00:0a.0 0680: 10de:0057 (rev a3)
00:0b.0 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3)
00:0c.0 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3)
00:0d.0 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3)
00:0e.0 0604: 10de:005d (rev a3)
00:18.0 0600: 1022:1100
00:18.1 0600: 1022:1101
00:18.2 0600: 1022:1102
00:18.3 0600: 1022:1103
01:06.0 0200: 8086:1229 (rev 08)
01:07.0 0100: 9005:0080 (rev 02)
01:09.0 0100: 9004:6178 (rev 01)
01:0c.0 0c00: 1106:3044 (rev 80)
05:00.0 0300: 10de:0163 (rev a1)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[o ]
Configure network HW:   [E ]
Config network: [o ]
Detect CD:  [o ]
Load installer modules: [o ]
Detect hard drives: [o ]
Partition hard drives:  [o ]
Create file systems:[o ]
Mount partitions:   [o ]
Install base system:[o ]
Install boot loader:[o ]
Reboot: [o ]

Comments/Problems:

I used the grafical Installer the first time.
The network interface is detected as NVIDIA but i can't get an Internet 
connection. Thats the reason for the e100 Interface.

I use a RAID1 of three partitions at three disks for /boot and a RAID5 of 
three partitions at three disks for LVM with grub. During the bootloader 
installation is there a way to install it on every MBR of the disks? I did it 
after installation manualy.

After installation i 

Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 10:50:37PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 IIUC, you loaded the per-card (SiS) fb device, but DFB ran unaccelerated 
 because it didn't recognize the board and furthermore acceleration was 
 forced off, right?

No, i didn't even get into gtk-di, i ended up in a somewhat messed up text di,
i don't know why. Let me retry this image with the radeon.

 In this case i wonder where the bug is, in the framebuffer device or in 
 DFB card-indipendent code?
 Should we start x-posting on directfb-devel to get an expert help?

Yes, this would be nice. Maybe you can introduce the problem, and i give a
full summary of what i have experienced thus far ? 

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#388572: marked as done (debian-installer won't let me select a local apt-proxy mirror)

2006-09-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 24 Sep 2006 00:00:07 +0200
with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and subject line my apologies
has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done.

This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith.

(NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am
talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration
somewhere.  Please contact me immediately.)

Debian bug tracking system administrator
(administrator, Debian Bugs database)

---BeginMessage---
Package: debian-installer
Version: no idea. Netinstall image was DL'ed on 20-Sep-2006

The way you're expected to enter a server and path differs from how
sources are defined in every other place; it's not apparent how they are
translated into a sources.list entry.

After trying several combinations of server and path statements to
no avail, I resigned and switched to the second console in an attempt to
edit the sources.list manually. In vain, though, as the installer would
immediately uncomment my changes in an attempt to make a clean start.
Good intentions notwithstanding, I found this to be annoying.

Please bring back the option to edit the sources.list file; while it may
look scary to a beginner, even a half-experienced user who has no idea
how sources work (like me) could still add a valid entry simply by
copying it verbatim from another source.

regards,
Schnobs


---End Message---
---BeginMessage---

The actual problem was an old (and long since closed) apt-proxy bug:
#374405: Incompatible with full URL HTTP requests from recent apt
versions
An update of the apt-proxy machine would be overdue, it seems.


I still find it interesting that while installing the base system,
outdated apt-proxy served well -- apparently the old way (no full URLs)
is still being used during that step.

However, the actual issue of the installer not getting along with my
apt-proxy was in no way a bug in apt-setup, but my own damn fault. I'm
sorry for wasting your time.

regards,
Schnobs

---End Message---


Bug#342053: DirectFrameBuffer crashes on PPC systems if HW accelerated drivers are used

2006-09-23 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 10:46:05PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 Sven Luther wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 12:45:10PM +0200, Attilio Fiandrotti wrote:
 
 looking at DFB's supported-hardware page
 
 http://www.directfb.org/index.php?path=Main%2FSupport%2FGraphics
 
 
 Well, ...
 
 I did some try with my xgi card, and even though i disabled hardware
 acceleration, this is a nogo. I ended up in a messed up text terminal (with
 black blocks and â chars for the box borders and shadow).
 
 So, it is clear that directfb needs not only the per-card drivers for
 acceleration, but also for normal usage.
 
 You're talking about per-card framebuffer devices, not per-card DFB 
 gfxdrivers, right?
 On i386 the vesafb device can be used in place of card-specific fb 
 devices and DFB will run unaccelerated on top of it.
 Does a device driver equivalent to vesafb exists for PPCs?

Forget it, there is something clearly wrong in my 2.6.18 based gtk-di build,
even the radeon has problems, so i probably did some error in the build. Will
investigate tomorrow.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



Bug#152152: Reg. Quote for maryann blicharz

2006-09-23 Thread Merle
Hello,

Denis  has rec eiieved your filled app.

Damien  shall  then   Re-confirm   yo ur  info.

http://0F2780.ssr.be

For maryann blicharz  

and your past   Track  Record is not an iss ue.

All re  Financetypes have been aproved  for you  maryann
blicharz

Res pects,

Merle




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Bug#152152: maryann blicharz Approved

2006-09-23 Thread George
Hi,

Annie  has re ceieevi ed your  fill ed app lication.

Lillian  shall  then   Re-confirm   yo ur infom ation.

http://BEA1D1.n0.be

For maryann blicharz  

and your Cr.  R ating is not  a factor.

All Re  financetypes have been  approoved  for you  maryann
blicharz

Thanks,

George




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rootskel_1.38_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2006-09-23 Thread Debian Installer

Accepted:
rootskel-bootfloppy_1.38_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel-bootfloppy_1.38_i386.udeb
rootskel_1.38.dsc
  to pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel_1.38.dsc
rootskel_1.38.tar.gz
  to pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel_1.38.tar.gz
rootskel_1.38_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel_1.38_i386.udeb


Override entries for your package:
rootskel-bootfloppy_1.38_i386.udeb - extra debian-installer
rootskel_1.38.dsc - source debian-installer
rootskel_1.38_i386.udeb - standard debian-installer

Announcing to debian-devel-changes@lists.debian.org


Thank you for your contribution to Debian.


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Bug#137991: To learn more

2006-09-23 Thread Mauro Crandall
Sorry for taking so long to reply.

We are sorry to inform you that our product is still not in stores.
Currently we are only offering it on our product website and plan on having it 
in stores come November 2006.

As mentioned Dr. Lang is still recommending a 4 month supply for best results.
If you have anymore health concerns then feel free to send me an email.
Below I have posted our site for further info.

Company Website:
http://097.mugtool.com

Eloise Golden





Bug#212881: Please consider

2006-09-23 Thread Walton, Sara
Sorry for taking so long to reply.

We are sorry to inform you that our product is still not in stores.
Currently we are only offering it on our product website and plan on having it 
in stores come November 2006.

As mentioned Dr. Weiss is still recommending a 4 month supply for best results.
If you have anymore health concerns then feel free to send me an email.
Below I have posted our site for further info.

Company Website:
http://097.muggadget.com

Terrell Means





Bug#150779: Thank you for your inquiry

2006-09-23 Thread Marylou Chambers
Sorry for taking so long to reply.

We are sorry to inform you that our product is still not in stores.
Currently we are only offering it on our product website and plan on having it 
in stores come November 2006.

As mentioned Dr. English is still recommending a 4 month supply for best 
results.
If you have anymore health concerns then feel free to send me an email.
Below I have posted our site for further info.

Company Website:
http://097.mugfork.com

Mary Ayers



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Bug#195955: Please consider

2006-09-23 Thread Joyce Hinton
Sorry for taking so long to reply.

We are sorry to inform you that our product is still not in stores.
Currently we are only offering it on our product website and plan on having it 
in stores come November 2006.

As mentioned Dr. Winslow is still recommending a 4 month supply for best 
results.
If you have anymore health concerns then feel free to send me an email.
Below I have posted our site for further info.

Company Website:
http://097.mugutensil.com

Nelda Mason





Bug#150791: After evaluating

2006-09-23 Thread Paige, Refugio
Sorry for taking so long to reply.

We are sorry to inform you that our product is still not in stores.
Currently we are only offering it on our product website and plan on having it 
in stores come November 2006.

As mentioned Dr. Banks is still recommending a 4 month supply for best results.
If you have anymore health concerns then feel free to send me an email.
Below I have posted our site for further info.

Company Website:
http://097.muggadget.com

Sterling Koch




Re: [D-I] mass kernel udeb update and preparations for RC1

2006-09-23 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón

On 9/22/06, Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(Reply-to set to debian-boot; please only add relevant port if needed.)

/me wonders why there have been almost no reactions to this mail
The first part is mostly information (though a cool or thanks would be
appreciated), but the second part has some issues that need attention.

Have D-I porters actually read the mail?
Is it useful that I send such mails at all?


I read the mail, sorry, I'm not a porter, Of course I must say
THANKS I'm a 64 bit user.

THANKS.



On Sunday 17 September 2006 14:28, Frans Pop wrote:
 Dear (d-i) porters,

 First mass upload of kernel udebs
 =
 Today I have uploaded kernel udeb updates to 2.6.17-9 _for all arches_.
 This is the first time using the 'massbuild' [1] script I wrote
 recently.

 Effectively this means that d-i porters won't really have to worry
 anymore about updating kernel udebs after uploads by the kernel team.
 Only if the kernel major/minor changes will I request porters to do the
 upload themselves. For stable releases (including ABI changes) I intend
 to do these mass builds and do the uploads myself.

 Hopefully this will help the speed with which kernel udebs are updated
 and allow you all to spend more time testing d-i ;-)

 Of course porters are still responsible for maintaining which modules
 will be included for each arch/flavor. If you have changes between
 kernel major/minor releases you can either commit them and upload, or
 commit them as UNRELEASED and they will be automatically included in
 the next mass build.

 The massbuild script can be used for single-arch builds too. Its main
 advantage is that kernel images don't need to be installed and the
 certainty that the correct kernel version will be used. Feel free to
 contact me to help you get started.

 Some comments on today's upload:
 - I have used the last released version of kernel-wedge and will
 normally do that in the future too
 - I have not really checked or tested the udebs [2], so there could be
   some surprises; please be alert for them
 - m68k: I had to update the dependencies from kernel-image to
 linux-image


 The road to RC1
 ===
 We are slowly moving towards RC1. I plan to post an initial planning
 later this week.
 As we get closer to Etch, testing the installer for all arches gets to
 be more important. Any time you can spend on that is very much
 appreciated.

 There are some issues that need attention:
 * type of initrd used
   Some arches have already switched to using initramfs for d-i initrds,
   other arches are still using cramfs or ext2. Please check if a change
   could/should be made for your architecture.
 * 2.4 support now officially dropped
   Starting with RC1 d-i will no longer support 2.4 based installations.
   All arches have been switched now and some cleanup has been started;
   more cleanup is expected and this may cause unexpected breakage.
 * support for non-devfs device names
   Colin Watson has committed a series of changes to make d-i support
   non-devfs device names. We will be slowly moving away from using
   devfs names, but the most intrusive work will be postponed until
   after Etch. Please check for unexpected breakage though.
 * partman-auto using LVM and crypto
   partman-auto-lvm now has been available for some time, but is still
   not available for all arches. LVM support is a prerequisite for
   partman-auto-crypto support which will be uploaded soon.
   Note: swap on LVM should be possible now and is even required for
   partman-auto-crypto.
   If you would like to add support for it, please see [3]. Feel free
   to contact me or David Härdeman (Alphix) for help.

 * mips: keyboard issues
   We've had a report about a dead keyboard on installation (#382983).
   This needs to be investigated.
 * powerpc: oldworld boot problems with recent kernels

 If there are other architecture specific issues that we should be aware
 of, please let me know.

 Cheers,
 FJP

 [1]
 http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/d-i/people/fjp/massbuild?op=filerev=0sc=0
 [2] The script does have a number of sanity checks though.
 [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg01054.html






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