Re: Bug#221907: no need to always install pcmcia-cs for d-i

2003-12-21 Thread Anthony Towns
afraid I misunderstood your request) Yes, that is the answer I want. How about pcmcia-cs? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. Linux.conf.au 2004 -- Because we can

Re: Bug#221907: no need to always install pcmcia-cs for d-i

2003-12-22 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 12:30:24PM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Am Mon, den 22.12.2003 schrieb Joey Hess um 07:59: Anthony Towns wrote: Yes, that is the answer I want. How about pcmcia-cs? Same story, hw-detect apt-installs it if it sees that the machine has a pcmcia bus, and later

Re: fixing the base-installer progress bars

2003-12-31 Thread Anthony Towns
tokens in the string to form the warning message. Note that the formats are just there for convenience; d-i is expected not to end up using any of them, afaik. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail

Re: beta 2 plans

2004-01-01 Thread Anthony Towns
. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. Linux.conf.au 2004 -- Because we can. http://conf.linux.org.au/ -- Jan 12-17, 2004 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: beta 2 plans

2004-01-02 Thread Anthony Towns
-arm - ../../../sid/main/debian-installer/binary-arm That's quite plausible, but I can't imagine it being done with symlinks. It's easy to update (u)debs in testing to unstable on a per-arch basis. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak

potato boot-floppies

2000-06-20 Thread Anthony Towns
the arch dependent bf stuff. If you're not ready to go, you really really need to get that way in the next day or two. Feel free to reply to this list; I'm on it, I just don't follow it too carefully most of the time. Cheers, aj (acting release manager) -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Bug#65991: boot-floppies: module params STILL not passed correctly; can't install ne or adlib_card

2000-06-21 Thread Anthony Towns
already. Cheers, aj (acting release manager) -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``We reject: kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in: rough consensus and working code

Re: disposition of 2.2.16

2000-06-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 09:43:23PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Note that there's a new sysvinit waiting to go into potato, and we might also end up with a new util-linux. These shouldn't affect boot-floppies too much, beyond a final build when

Release Notes!!!

2000-08-11 Thread Anthony Towns
I'd much rather have multiple up-to-date lots of release notes to choose from than none. If you want to coordinate stuff with other people, #debian-boot on irc.debian.org or so. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG s

[redferni@logica.com: Re: Release Notes!!!]

2000-08-11 Thread Anthony Towns
- Forwarded message from Ian Redfern [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:02:08 +0100 From: Ian Redfern [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Logica UK Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-GB, en To: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

Re: [debian-installer] microdpkg

2000-08-22 Thread Anthony Towns
though. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``We reject: kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in: rough consensus and working code.''

Re: [woody] udpkg progress

2000-08-26 Thread Anthony Towns
obably a good enough section in this case. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``We reject: kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in: rough consen

Re: [woody] udpkg progress

2000-08-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Aug 27, 2000 at 07:39:35AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: Is it possible to just make the installer stuff use separate directories and make it not conflict with regular .debs? (eg, /lib/busybox/bin, and have the installer just use an odd PATH) If so, you can upload

Re: Priorities

2000-10-09 Thread Anthony Towns
ve attached to their computer, in a fairly generic way. I don't see any *good* reason for task- packages to conflict, though, in the above, most task packages should be completely independent. So, going back to what I've said previously (which is probably completely out o

Re: woody, boot-floppies, and debian-installer projected readiness

2000-10-15 Thread Anthony Towns
hat it has to *work* on all architectures, not just work on i386 and have potential. Note also that two of those six months have already gone. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``We rej

Re: [very preliminary] C debconf conceptual code

2000-10-21 Thread Anthony Towns
at. A better TODO list might be helpful. Or is there nothing more to do (except maybe fix some bugs and add other frontends)? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``We reject: kings, pre

Re: busybox in main

2000-10-24 Thread Anthony Towns
possible, do people think, to have (eg) a release-notes.udeb from which a script on ftp-master automatically extracts the release notes and dumps them somewhere useful? Ditto vmlinuz, and the boot-floppies themselves? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.a

Re: common udpkg and uapt-get functionality

2000-11-28 Thread Anthony Towns
dpkg would have to be somewhat re-entrant. I think the "do udebs have to be installed to be visible to the user" question is the key here though. Seems a really weird thing to say yes to, but I can't see any reasonable way to implement it if the answer is "no". Cheers, aj --

Re: common udpkg and uapt-get functionality

2000-11-28 Thread Anthony Towns
me Packages.gz files, and carefully unpack and configure the appropriate essential/required and base .debs, using just the tools that'll eventually be available as udebs. But udebs and base.tgz are addressing separate issues. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I do

Re: common udpkg and uapt-get functionality

2000-11-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 03:01:29PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: If all the udebs that you might ever want are already unpacked, you only need to write to the debconf database (the answers to any questions need to be stored for backtracking), the udpkg database (so you know

Re: cdebconf problems

2000-12-21 Thread Anthony Towns
me as hurd-only packages). Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``Thanks to all avid pokers out there'' -- linux.conf.au, 17-20 January 2001 PGP signature

Re: lilo udebization

2000-12-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Dec 25, 2000 at 01:03:25AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: We need lilo on a rescue disk, at least... Take another look at the system. I'm not even guarenteeing a *shell* on the install media. You'll note I didn't say the install media: I said "rescue disk"

Re: new demo system -- chrooted!

2000-12-27 Thread Anthony Towns
to fallback to auric if the connection to ftp.d.o failed (in get_debs.sh) since ftp.d.o seems not to have mirrored properly today... You probably want to get rid of that fallback before using it :) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save

Re: disposition of boot-floppies in woody

2001-01-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 01:48:00PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Anthony Towns claimed on debian-devel that it would take us "a few months" to prepare boot-floppies for woody. I think it can be done by Feb. Well, I have no complaints if you get things done earlier, of course :)

Re: new demo system -- chrooted!

2001-01-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 01:34:45AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 02:16:11PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: This demo system is a bit bigger than the previous ones, because it is a self-contained chrooted system! http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/debian-installer/demo3.tar.gz

Bug#81118: base: Wishlist: High security base system (or separate add-on package)

2001-01-04 Thread Anthony Towns
; environment, or something. That is, collections of packages focussed on how you want to do something, rather than what you want to do (which is what tasks are for). For users who're more experienced than newbies (who've got task packages), but who aren't expers (who've got dselect/con

Bug#81118: base: Wishlist: High security base system (or separate add-on package)

2001-01-04 Thread Anthony Towns
up. Oh, and for reference, portmap hasn't has a security update forever while I've been maintaining it. Heck, there don't seem to have been any changes to portmap since 1997. But hey, feel free to make the traditional baseless accusations of insecurity, whatever. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns

Bug#81118: base: Wishlist: High security base system (or separate add-on package)

2001-01-04 Thread Anthony Towns
standard') is to fat. That would be because standard isn't intended to be a minimal system at all. If you want minimal, just install the "important" packages. If you want _really_ minimal, just install the "required" packages. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:

Re: breaking up base-config

2001-01-09 Thread Anthony Towns
if necessary if you create base from debs, rather than a tarball... Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``Thanks to all avid pokers out there'' -- linux.conf.au, 17-20

Re: new demo system -- chrooted!

2001-01-09 Thread Anthony Towns
non-US if available. inetd asking if echo and discard and so on should be enabled, might be a better example, although it never asks in the first place. -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred.

Re: new demo system -- chrooted!

2001-01-10 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 12:07:51AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: The debconf frontend should really be passed through to the udeb frontend; the keymap should already have been determined. Right. How we do that with dpkg and random postinst scripts scribbling all over

Re: debian-installer: disk partitioner

2001-01-10 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 08:45:26AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: [...] So, large C projects tend to have their own portable C lib of data structures.. A good example is glib. debian-installer is meant to be exactly the opposite of a large project... Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL

Re: install non-core udebs to /usr/local

2001-01-10 Thread Anthony Towns
got enough room to include enough udebs already unpacked that you don't need to install anymore. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``Thanks to all avid pokers out

Re: new demo system -- chrooted!

2001-01-10 Thread Anthony Towns
that break the timestamps on some of the files the installer creates (/etc/fstab, eg) though? If, say, my hardware clock's set to localtime, and my TZ is +1000? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail

Re: install non-core udebs to /usr/local

2001-01-10 Thread Anthony Towns
and voila. But in the meantime, just require a 128MB dummy position that'll be later used for swap, or 64MB of RAM or something. Cheers, aj [0] (find -type f | xargs cat; find) | wc -c ; ignoring slack space due to block size, trying to take into account the extra space used for file names -- Ant

Re: d-i kernel and modules

2001-01-12 Thread Anthony Towns
be Depend'ed on anyway, which only leaves running depmod, I guess. So we can probably do without the dependencies. We might need to add a non-interactive postinst that runs depmod, and make sure anna/udpkg always executes non-interactive postinsts asap. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: new demo system -- chrooted!

2001-01-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 12:27:31AM -0700, Randolph Chung wrote: In reference to a message from Joey Hess, dated Jan 10: Anthony Towns wrote: The debconf frontend should really be passed through to the udeb frontend; the keymap should already have been determined. ok, pardon me for being

Re: dhclient or dhcpcd for debian-installer?

2001-01-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 11:28:41PM -0800, David Whedon wrote: pump(22k) - no one has said anything nice about it, and some have strongly recommended that it not be used. Personally, I find pump quite functional. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I

Re: debian-installer vs boot-floppies

2001-02-01 Thread Anthony Towns
about the plan for testing and freezing and releasing woody, unless a b-f's upload beats me to the punch. (d) debootstrap .debs (not .udebs yet) have made into into sid, fwiw. Cheers, aj [0] Relatively Soon Now -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't

Re: debian-installer vs boot-floppies

2001-02-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 06:03:01PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (c) I'll be posting to -d-a in the next week or two about the plan for testing and freezing and releasing woody, unless a b-f's upload beats me to the punch. Is your expectation

Re: Installing from scratch with debs

2001-03-11 Thread Anthony Towns
this from happening. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't care about, is too

Re: Woody Freeze Plans

2001-03-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 08:21:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: So, a theoretical (and overly optimistic) timeline: 2001.02.15 - 2001.02.28 i386 boot-floppies updated for woody (and any other architectures) mips, hppa, ia64 get

Re: design problem when installing base system

2001-04-09 Thread Anthony Towns
(they just need to unpack base.tgz and then use apt-get). So I'm pretty sure it's not a debootstrap bug, anyway. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty

Re: cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap by dwhedon

2001-04-10 Thread Anthony Towns
ion too. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't car

Re: patch to fix debootstrap invocation on local archive

2001-04-11 Thread Anthony Towns
g stdio? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't car

Re: Bug#93612: Support for new archive structure

2001-04-11 Thread Anthony Towns
the Release file to work out what Packages files and such to download (and was going to use the md5sums in it to ensure the Packages file wasn't corrupt, too :-/) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail

Re: patch to fix debootstrap invocation on local archive

2001-04-12 Thread Anthony Towns
ebootstrap at mirror-area If you're willing to be a bit cleverer, you can probably munge the names before creating the floppy images, and then unpack them directly into /target/var/cache/apt/archives. So that would need some hacking on dbootstrap, but wouldn't need interactivi

Re: patch to fix debootstrap invocation on local archive

2001-04-13 Thread Anthony Towns
a script that can be run on ftp-master to generate them might be more reasonable. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit

Re: patch to fix debootstrap invocation on local archive

2001-04-15 Thread Anthony Towns
pport. We can probably live without it for the minute, at least... Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not

Re: woody bf gunzip bugs

2001-04-18 Thread Anthony Towns
(in_file) + ((size_t)fgetc(in_fi le) 8), SEEK_CUR); +* -- you can't seek on stdin, and the order of function calls +* in the above isn't guaranteed */ } Dicking around with gzip code is just asking for obscure bugs to bite in you in the bum, though... Ch

Re: debootstrap [fw: [PATCH] using non-standard call to 'head' breaks with busybox]

2001-04-22 Thread Anthony Towns
to add: just put a case 'i': before the case 'I':. Normal sed supports both s///i and s///I, so I've switched debootsrap to use the capital I. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_

Bug#95921: superformat isn't on root.bin or installed by debootstrap

2001-05-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 03:14:17AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: Anyway, debootstrap 0.1.7 is in incoming now, fixing this and a handful of other bugs. It kind-of works with sid (assuming you have a mirror that's not half out of date like ftp.d.o

Re: Integrating the debian-installer into the archive

2003-10-03 Thread Anthony Towns
doubt it's possible to use the regular autobuilders personally (I expect you'll require root privleges to mount filesystems for instance). If it is possible, that's cool. Either way, you'll need to work out how to automate the builds yourselves, and tell everyone else. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns

Re: Integrating the debian-installer into the archive

2003-10-04 Thread Anthony Towns
. (If you're already at that point, just start talking specifics) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. Australian DMCA (the Digital Agenda Amendments) Under Review! -- http

Re: Integrating the debian-installer into the archive

2003-10-06 Thread Anthony Towns
, btw - the language barrier and all. Please include examples of what you're talking about, and consider attaching or linking to the scripts you're talking about. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail

Re: Integrating the debian-installer into the archive

2003-10-06 Thread Anthony Towns
stuff is that its source isn't self contained so the .dsc and .debs can get updated, without the disk images being updated too, which can be bad in various ways. Moving that problem outside of the archive proper can give you some better ways of dealing with it) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL

Re: use of release names in d-i

2003-12-01 Thread Anthony Towns
/debian/dists/testing/Release | ] grep -i Codename: ] Codename: sarge ] $ lynx -dump http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release | ] grep -i Suite: ] Suite: testing If the CDs don't already have those fields, it should be trivial to add them, afaics. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL

Re: use of release names in d-i

2003-12-02 Thread Anthony Towns
installing) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. Linux.conf.au 2004 -- Because we can. http://conf.linux.org.au/ -- Jan 12-17, 2004 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: use of release names in d-i

2003-12-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 12:19:03PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:08:24AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: It seems to me that since debootstrap already knows how to download dists/$SUITE/Release, and in fact does so, it would be best to make it download

Re: use of release names in d-i

2003-12-04 Thread Anthony Towns
, or URL for you in the same way debootstrap does. But again, I don't want to go increasing debootstrap's API without being sure it actually is a good idea. And I do think there are other wins in having d-i access the Release files itself. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Tasks policy

2001-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
it if they'd be willing to put in the effort to write a better proposal. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do

Re: Full install from cd achieved (RFC)

2001-05-06 Thread Anthony Towns
/locale.gen $TARGET/etc/locale.gen.tmp + mv $TARGET/etc/locale.gen.tmp $TARGET/etc/locale.gen + in_target locale-gen fi I take it this is necessary to get localised messages from dpkg for the remainder of the install? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I

Re: Tasks policy

2001-05-07 Thread Anthony Towns
than just politely including one less package. This was discussed in a fair degree of depth shortly after potato was released, btw. Have a look at the thread on -devel which included: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0008/msg00706.html Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Tasks policy

2001-05-07 Thread Anthony Towns
. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't care about, is too much

Re: Tasks policy

2001-05-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 09:55:48AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: Anthony == Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony Remember: the point of tasks is to make the initial Anthony install simpler, so that people can get started on Debian Anthony without having to wade through

Re: Tasks policy

2001-05-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:19:20PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: Anthony == Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anthony You Anthony check the code out from CVS, or do an apt-get source, you Anthony write the code, and you send it to Randolph. It doesn't Anthony need

Re: Tasks policy

2001-05-08 Thread Anthony Towns
after potato's release, new installs that used tasksel did not get emacs or tex, or anything else in standard, (Note that everyone who wanted TeX probably chose task-tex anyway) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself

Re: Tasks policy

2001-05-08 Thread Anthony Towns
, getting fed up with trying to help -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't care about

Re: Tasks policy

2001-05-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 11:04:34PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: Or moving them into the task package themselves, but not in the control record? Or shall we just forget I suggested that originally. Well, I had. Well, it's possible I wasn't explicit enough. What I said

Re: tasks: counterproposal (and implimentation)

2001-05-11 Thread Anthony Towns
-- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't care about, is too much

Re: Full install from cd achieved (RFC)

2001-05-11 Thread Anthony Towns
thing) into dbootstrap? If that really is too hard, I'll add them in anyway... Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do

Re: work needed for woody release: rationally looking at task pkgs

2001-05-12 Thread Anthony Towns
-gnome' and 'task-desktop-kde' ? There's a task-desktop (including both Gnome and KDE --- you get to choose what you want from gdm), at deb http://people.debian.org/~ajt/ task-desktop/ fwiw. (Ideally, I'd rather someone other than me maintain it) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: tasks: counterproposal (and implimentation)

2001-05-12 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 01:39:43PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: Also, this is one of the reasons I think we should give people the opportunity to drop into dselect/something better after broadly outlining their tasks to they can tweak the result if necessary. I think we

Bug#95921: superformat isn't on root.bin or installed by debootstrap

2001-05-13 Thread Anthony Towns
tag 97356 fixed merge 97356 96151 thanks On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 04:42:08PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, fdutils has an interactive install, so you'll need to hit enter (assuming you can) to use debootstrap now. :( Someone should

Re: reiserfs+woody

2001-05-14 Thread Anthony Towns
effort than it's worth, but it'd be cool if achieved.) For reference, 2.4.x will probably not be considered really stable (not as stable as 2.2.x is anyway) by the time boot-floppies get frozen. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone

Re: tasks: counterproposal (and implimentation)

2001-05-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:02:53PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: For comparison, using task- packages, if I remove the core packages from a task from woody, I can just also remove the task- from woody. In a sense, doing it programmatically is cleaner and less work

Re: base-config cruft cleanup

2001-05-14 Thread Anthony Towns
. Oh, is that the form debootstrap uses? Not particularly good on my end, but I can parse it if necessary, I suppose. FWIW, debootstrap dumps the settings it used to $TARGET/etc/apt/sources.list, too. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak

Re: base-config cruft cleanup

2001-05-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:27:11AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: Oh, is that the form debootstrap uses? Not particularly good on my end, but I can parse it if necessary, I suppose. FWIW, debootstrap dumps the settings it used to $TARGET/etc/apt/sources.list, too. Oh

Re: debootstrap for ppc

2001-05-15 Thread Anthony Towns
is a bit too i386-centric. It's entirely i386-centric. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand

Re: base-config cruft cleanup

2001-05-15 Thread Anthony Towns
in debootstrap? What do you think it will be outputting in this case? It'll output something like deb file:/path/to/debian woody main contrib non-free but that'll be relative to the b-f's /, and it might be meant to be a cdrom:// url instead. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Bug#97755: [PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-17 Thread Anthony Towns
been discussed on the `debian-devel' mailing list and + a consensus about doing that has been reached. + /p Actually, I'm assuming the overrides mechanism will just ignore any Task: fields that might be in a package... Cheers, a consensus by any means necessary j -- Anthony

Re: Bug#97755: PROPOSAL] eliminating task packages; new task system

2001-05-17 Thread Anthony Towns
woody. But it doesn't much matter at the moment. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot

Re: woody release task needs help: package priorities

2001-05-17 Thread Anthony Towns
these sorts of things back using a 'unix-servers' task or similar. Since there's a 'tetex' task, I've also dropped tetex from standard to optional: people who want TeX will need to choose the task now. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak

Re: patch to fix debootstrap invocation on local archive

2001-05-25 Thread Anthony Towns
other things later though. If d-i is ready for it, someone can feel free to send me a patch to make it a udeb :) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface

Re: sound card detection in base

2001-05-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 08:14:12PM +0200, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:57:44PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: Is there a package that helps configure your sound card in Debian yet? Are any of sndconfig, alsaconf, or libdetect usable? AFAIU, 'base system' is composed

Re: i386 debian woody network installation problem

2001-05-26 Thread Anthony Towns
been fixed in unstable since. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't care

Re: powerpc-utils and DEBIAN_FRONTEND

2001-05-28 Thread Anthony Towns
(debootstrap author/maintainer) -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't care about, is too much

Re: Bug#99229: spurious warning during install

2001-05-30 Thread Anthony Towns
informative messages, or something similar? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive

Re: where are uptodate boot disk images for woody

2001-06-01 Thread Anthony Towns
the boot-floppies (or base-config, or debootstrap, or whatever package) please. I haven't see any real success or failure reports from these... Are we at the point where occassional lucky people can actually do woody installs yet? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Where is the base tarball?

2001-06-02 Thread Anthony Towns
in the meantime. Panic over. Please get someone with a Hurd system to work out what packages need to be in Hurd required/base; and what special casing has to happen. Most of that can probably be determined from your existing b-f's, I'd guess. Send a patch :) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL

Re: critical problems in 2.3.5 prevent release

2001-06-10 Thread Anthony Towns
that, [...] nothing very vital in gcc-3.0-base. libstc++3.0 and gcc-3.0 depend on it though, for some reason. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty

Re: Base Installation (aph 2.3.5 6/7)

2001-06-12 Thread Anthony Towns
1.2.1-1.2.1-1 is not in woody yet. this step will fail until it is. (This should happen in 30 hours or a little more, depending on your mirror site, btw) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail

Re: PATCH: hppa support in boot-floppies

2001-06-13 Thread Anthony Towns
, this was an official maybe, and an unofficial probably. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive

Re: successful installation with 2.3.5 boot-floppies

2001-06-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 12:19:47AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: (An additional problem is that the auric's recent problems (not master's, this is a whole new set from the last 24 hours or so) have screwed up both testing and the pool in general to an unknown degree. Depending on the state

new debootstrap in incoming

2001-06-15 Thread Anthony Towns
Hi guys, There's a new debootstrap in incoming which includes groff-base and some other changes. Probably worth a rebuild of b-f's, as with current/old debootstrap's, groff (in base) dies because it depends on groff-base. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: successful installation with 2.3.5 boot-floppies

2001-06-13 Thread Anthony Towns
) -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't care about, is too much

Re: new debootstrap in incoming

2001-06-16 Thread Anthony Towns
didn't tell you to when you posted to -boot or wherever, sorry) Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do

Re: boot-floppies 2.3.5 ready for testing (i386 and powerpc so far)

2001-06-16 Thread Anthony Towns
-- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit you do not understand, cannot perceive, or don't care about, is too much.'' -- John

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-17 Thread Anthony Towns
/basedebs.tgz and woody/disks-i386/current/basefile.tgz) available only when we actually release (and at point releases). That ought to be relatively do-able. Updating both tarballs should essentially just require a run of debootstrap on each arch. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-17 Thread Anthony Towns
of the stupid /usr/lib/debootstrap/arch file, and (b) for --print-debs' benefit. Nothing more. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``_Any_ increase in interface difficulty, in exchange for a benefit

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