Bug#226051: successful install on i386 with jan 02 image

2004-01-03 Thread Philip Blundell
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Jan 02 image from ~joeyh/d-i/installer-i386 uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.22-1-k7 #5 Sat Oct 4 14:11:12 EST 2003 i686 GNU/Linux Date: Jan 03 15:00 Method: network install with netboot-initrd, using serial console Machine:

Re: ARM library reduction issue

2003-12-30 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 21:09, Joey Hess wrote: jared_rhin1 Command failed with status 1 : readelf --all -W ./tmp/netboot/tree/lib/libdiscover.so jared_rhin1 With output: readelf: Error: Cannot stat input file ./tmp/netboot/tree/lib/libdiscover.so. I put an updated mklibs in

Re: ARM library reduction issue

2003-12-29 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2003-12-29 at 13:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having explained all that I need help, I have a workround of simply removing the symlinks from the libdiscover udeb (this works for ARM) but is taht correct and if so do I file a bug against discover? or is this a mklibs error as it

Re: Always use UTF-8 when running base-config?

2003-09-14 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2003-09-14 at 15:34, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Is [bogl-bterm] equally slow when not using VMWare? I've never tested it on real HW. It's a little sluggish, but I think generally acceptable for the installer. The exception is if the screen needs to be scrolled, in which case

Bug#209279: base-config: looking ugly after a d-i install

2003-09-10 Thread Philip Blundell
On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 20:55, Denis Barbier wrote: The locales/default_environment_locale question asks whether a locale should be the default for the whole system. If answer is None, /etc/environment is untouched, otherwise LANG=$locale is added into this file. Are there suggestions to make

Bug#206531: #206531: Problems building d-i after upgrading Sid chroot

2003-08-28 Thread Philip Blundell
It appears that the problem here is caused by dso_handle.os being omitted from the reduced libc. This leaves __dso_handle as an undefined weak reference. Unfortunately, for a shared build, glibc assumes that this symbol will always be available and elides the check for its existence in

Bug#206531: no longer critical

2003-08-28 Thread Philip Blundell
severity 206531 important thanks With version 0.1.12, this issue should no longer hold up development of d-i. Accordingly, I'm downgrading the bug from critical to important. Please feel free to raise the priority again if it is found still to be obstructing progress on the installer. --

Re: debian installer on ppc/pegasos

2003-08-28 Thread Philip Blundell
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 15:53, Sven Luther wrote: You mean [mklibs 0.1.12] will be available this evening or tomorrow, don't you ? The code is in CVS, and the package is in queue/accepted. It will be in the archive in a couple of hours. p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: debian installer on ppc/pegasos

2003-08-28 Thread Philip Blundell
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 18:16, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:03:33PM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 15:53, Sven Luther wrote: You mean [mklibs 0.1.12] will be available this evening or tomorrow, don't you ? The code is in CVS, and the package

Bug#206056: boot-floppies: [patch] Iyonix support and ARM fixes

2003-08-20 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 13:31, Peter Naulls wrote: mips/*|arm/*) - cp $extractdir/boot/vmlinux-* linux$subarch.bin + cp $extractdir/boot/vmlinu*-* linux$subarch.bin I don't like this change very much. Can you coordinate with Othmar and figure out what the right answer is? Maybe it

Re: Should all udeb binaries use UTF8 libraries?

2003-02-04 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 14:39, Jim Mintha wrote: I would love to get rid of the two versions of the libraries. The last time I believe there were problems with some packages not working well with the UTF8 version. I have to look at it again to remember exactly what. This is the time to fix

Bug#178557: mklibs: Error out if a _pic.a does not contain an expected symbol

2003-01-27 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 04:04, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: I managed to mis-generate a _pic.a file as an empty archive, which managed to send mklibs into an infinite loop. It'd be nice if mklibs detected when a shared libaries _pic.a did not contain a symbol it was supposed to and errored out.

Bug#178511: mklibs: Misses some symbols?

2003-01-27 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 19:39, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: # /usr/lib/cgi-bin/login.cgi /usr/lib/cgi-bin/login.cgi: relocation error: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/login.cgi: symbol _ZTIPKc, version GLIBCPP_3.2 not defined in file libstdc++.so.5 with link time reference This looks like the familiar problem

Re: Should all udeb binaries use UTF8 libraries?

2003-01-27 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 09:47, Junichi Uekawa wrote: I've noticed some udebs require on libslang.so.1, while the cdebconf slang frontend require libslang.so.1-UTF8. Should all udeb programs and libraries link with UTF8 versions of libraries, or should we leave it to the package

Bug#178511: mklibs: Misses some symbols?

2003-01-27 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 13:11, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 07:10, Philip Blundell wrote: This looks like the familiar problem with mklibs not handling references to data symbols. I'll try to find some time to look at that again this afternoon. The reason (well

Bug#178511: mklibs: Misses some symbols?

2003-01-27 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 13:11, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: The reason (well, the glaring one!) is that the symbol doesn't have UND or whatever it takes to match the symbol-finding regexp; however, I don't understand mklibs anywhere near enough yet to know if changing that is safe, of it it'll lead

Re: Should all udeb binaries use UTF8 libraries?

2003-01-25 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 10:51, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I've noticed some udebs require on libslang.so.1, while the cdebconf slang frontend require libslang.so.1-UTF8. Should all udeb programs and libraries link with UTF8 versions of libraries, or should we leave it to the package

Bug#178002: mklibs: Fail to handle .so files

2003-01-23 Thread Philip Blundell
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 10:06, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Still need: sys_siglist 1 symbols, 1 unresolved I: library reduction pass 2 This is not related to the input being a .so file, but rather to mklibs' inability to handle references to global data symbols. Someone else reported a

Re: Status of boot-floppies for Debian 3.0r2

2003-01-21 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 18:24, Eduard Bloch wrote: - arm port gets a new installation flavor (riscstation), please help Othmar Pasteka [EMAIL PROTECTED] with testing of the new kernel if you own a such system Another ARM issue is that RiscPC support apparently did not work in 3.0r0; see

Re: Differences between mklibs.py and mklibs.sh

2002-11-05 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 17:20, Clément Moreau wrote: Does anybody have experience on mklibs.py and plug-in shared objects ? I don't have direct experience, but I think it ought to work. Just ensure that you list all the plugins on the mklibs command line, alongside normal binaries. The plugin

Re: The problem - building a 2.4.19 installer

2002-10-15 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 10:31, David Murphy wrote: I've already downloaded the 2.4.19 from kernel.org source and menuconfiged it to suit my needs - however, I can't figure how to get boot-floppies to look at my downloaded source file (and painstakingly edited .config file) when it goes about

Re: Localized default values (was Re: [d-i] Problems with variousdebconf templates)

2002-09-13 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-09-08 at 23:28, Denis Barbier wrote: Seriously my feeling is that users are getting bored when they choose a language and provided default values do not take this information into accout (when choosing keyboard layout, mirrors, default system language, etc.). From what I

Re: I18N roadmap [was: i18n requires setlocale]

2002-09-10 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 02:03, Chris Tillman wrote: On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 03:36:58PM +0200, Marcin Owsiany wrote: On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 11:52:42AM +0200, Martin Sj?gren wrote: 2. Is this possible on all architectures? I mean: do all architectures use framebuffer? Some m68k's could

Bug#160223: 7500 board boot discs

2002-09-09 Thread Philip Blundell
reassign 160223 boot-floppies thanks On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 17:35, Vincent Sanders wrote: Hi ben added another issue to the debian bug track db earlier... Oh, I guess you mean 160223. Ben, in future you might want to file bugs against the boot-floppies package; it's more likely that people

Bug#157327: unhandled page fault in dbootstrap

2002-08-20 Thread Philip Blundell
reassign 157327 boot-floppies retitle 157327 [arm/riscstation] segmentation fault in dbootstrap thanks On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 23:29, Ben Dooks wrote: dbootstrap: unhandled page fault at pc=0x4008fd94, lr=0x00014b44 (bad address=0x, code 0) At what point did this occur? Are you saying

Bug#157327: unhandled page fault in dbootstrap

2002-08-20 Thread Philip Blundell
(Please keep the BTS in the cc field) On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 10:48, Ben Dooks wrote: nope, when trying to install operating system kernel it faulted and tried to restart. OK, thanks. acorn-fdisk does not work, producing a segmentation fault, with the following: Likewise here. Can

Bug#156882: boot-floppies: debootstrap; partition list; presentation order is inaccurate

2002-08-16 Thread Philip Blundell
On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 08:36, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: The problem is that debootstrap, when asked to print out the partition table, will reorder the output in geometry or on disk order, rather than in partition table offset order. That is, it's sorting by where the partitions begin on disk,

Re: cvs commit to mklibs/debian by blade

2002-07-27 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 10:11, Debian Boot CVS Master wrote: Repository: mklibs/debian who:blade time: Sat Jul 27 02:11:41 PDT 2002 Log Message: Added libc6-pic too, does not make much sense without it I think this should just be a recommends. You can legitimately use mklibs

Bug#154169: mklibs: bug re-introduces (symlinks)

2002-07-25 Thread Philip Blundell
On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 09:24, Thomas Poindessous wrote: On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 20:28, Matt Kraai wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 07:42:24PM +0200, Thomas Poindessous wrote: Hi, I tried to rebuild d-i and I looked that symlinks of /lib/ld-2.2.5 to /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (and others) was missing.

Bug#154169: mklibs: bug re-introduces (symlinks)

2002-07-25 Thread Philip Blundell
On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 10:21, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Philip Blundell | On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 09:24, Thomas Poindessous wrote: | On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 20:28, Matt Kraai wrote: | On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 07:42:24PM +0200, Thomas Poindessous wrote: |Hi, I tried to rebuild d-i and I

Bug#150791: boot-floppies: A wrong inittab file is created on StrongARM systems without VT support.

2002-07-22 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 12:39, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 02:51:33PM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote: On Sun, 2002-06-23 at 22:04, Peter De Schrijver wrote: On StrongARM systems without VT support, an inittab file is created which doesn't list any existing tty

Re: woody install: NFS hangs

2002-07-18 Thread Philip Blundell
On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 18:41, Andrea Mennucc wrote: Actually, I would propose to NOT USE vga for the rescue disk: this is the 3rd woody install I tried, and all had problems with vga Well, this problem is mentioned in the documentation. If you have concrete suggestions as to what we could do

Re: [d-i] debconf, partitioning widget?

2002-07-17 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 21:17, Richard Hirst wrote: Current status is that it can handle msdos and gpt table creation, and partition creation and deletion. Tested only on ia64. Not touched it since March, but I can certainly make the code available. That would be cool, please do. I see there

Bug#153282: mklibs: Don't impose constraints on what my cross tools are called

2002-07-17 Thread Philip Blundell
On Wed, 2002-07-17 at 15:40, David Kimdon wrote: At present when using mklibs in a cross build setup my tools need to be called something like /path/to/tool/bin/prefix-gcc. Sometimes the tools I want to use are /path/to/tool/bin/gcc. mklibs shouldn't force me to have a '-' in the tool name.

Re: [d-i] debconf, partitioning widget?

2002-07-16 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 05:49, Timshel Knoll wrote: The bigger issue is that parted is very strict about the partition tables it reads, so parted will not work well with inconsistent / dodgy partition tables which may have been caused by other programs. The ability to resize filesystems in the

Re: [d-i] debconf, partitioning widget?

2002-07-16 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 15:05, Chris Tillman wrote: Wouldn't it be possible to write an API to fdisk so we could fall back to it underneath without affecting the presentation? Sure, it would be possible, but it's gonna be a chunk of extra work. I would much rather put the effort into making

Bug#148785: Bug #148785: not installable on sun4c

2002-07-16 Thread Philip Blundell
Well, I can confirm that this happens for me too with the current woody tftpboot.img. But I'm fairly sure I've been able to install potato at some point in the past, unlike the original poster by the looks of things. It seems that this has to be either a problem either with silo or the tftp

Re: [d-i] debconf, partitioning widget?

2002-07-16 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 00:58, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: in order to get debian-installer into working shape, it is obvious that the user has some way to partition the hard drive. An auto-partitioner will probably only need debconf as it's UI. However, manual partitioning using debconf will be

Re: [d-i] debconf, partitioning widget?

2002-07-16 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 21:14, Eduard Bloch wrote: Philip Blundell wrote on Tue Jul 16, 2002 um 09:03:29PM: Ah, I just noticed that there is already a newt-based parted frontend (nparted), which will do for dialog mode. The standard parted should suffice for readline mode; I think it should

Re: [d-i] debconf, partitioning widget?

2002-07-15 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 00:58, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: in order to get debian-installer into working shape, it is obvious that the user has some way to partition the hard drive. An auto-partitioner will probably only need debconf as it's UI. However, manual partitioning using debconf will be

Re: Running translated install system from harddisk?

2002-07-14 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 12:08, Peter Karlsson wrote: However... Running the ftp site stuff with the cd in the drives gives me Swedish as an option, but it gives me a lot of blanks in the menus, which makes it impossible to use. I would guess the font on the image you're using has some

Re: Running translated install system from harddisk?

2002-07-14 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 13:24, Peter Karlsson wrote: Philip Blundell: I would guess the font on the image you're using has some characters missing. I don't think so, I get gaps for most text strings, not only for the non-ASCII characters. Besides, those characters looks correct from

Bug#152235: no manual page

2002-07-14 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-07-08 at 08:52, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Matt Kraai | There is no manual page for mklibs. I stumbled across one at | DebConf2, however, and have appended it below. Thanks -- fixed version uploading now. Would you care to check the changes you made to mklibs into CVS?

Re: Running translated install system from harddisk?

2002-07-14 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 18:57, Peter Karlsson wrote: Philip Blundell: Ah, okay. Can you give an example of a string that goes wrong? Well, for instance the help text that's supposed to be displayed isn't. Also, only one or two of the options were shown in the menu, the rest were blank

Re: Running translated install system from harddisk?

2002-07-14 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 18:45, Chris Tillman wrote: Does the xlp work on other architectures? No xlp.tgz shows up in disks-powerpc, for example. There's no reason why it shouldn't work. You just need to add the appropriate line to the PPC section of release.sh: [ -f xlp.tgz ] cp xlp.tgz

Bug#152235: no manual page

2002-07-14 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 16:50, Falk Hueffner wrote: Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Philip Blundell | Would you care to check the changes you made to mklibs into CVS? | cvs.debian.org:/cvs/debian-boot, module mklibs. sure, I wasn't aware that mklibs was in CVS

Bug#152804: boot-floppies: framebuffer causes Mobile Radeons to lock

2002-07-13 Thread Philip Blundell
reassign 152804 install-doc thanks On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 02:07, Jim Crilly wrote: I was trying to install Debian on my Dell Inspiron 4100 with a Mobile Radeon in it and it would freeze during install randomly, anywhere between 2 and 10 minutes after bootup. I tracked it down to the vga16

Bug#150791: boot-floppies: A wrong inittab file is created on StrongARM systems without VT support.

2002-07-13 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-06-23 at 22:04, Peter De Schrijver wrote: On StrongARM systems without VT support, an inittab file is created which doesn't list any existing tty device. The on chip serial ports on StrongARM systems are NOT called /dev/ttySx but /dev/ttySAx because they use another serial

Re: Running translated install system from harddisk?

2002-07-13 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 23:07, Peter Karlsson wrote: I downloaded the disks-i386 part of the ftp site and copied it to the hard disk. I notice that there is a tar file which shas all the language files in it, can I use that to let the install system find my Swedish files? I don't think the

Bug#152804: boot-floppies: framebuffer causes Mobile Radeons to lock

2002-07-13 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 17:21, Chris Tillman wrote: It was already documented by Richard. But, I added some more details about what the problems look like and what machines have reported problems. Okay, cool. I wonder if's worth explaining the distinction between problems caused by framebuffer

Re: Running translated install system from harddisk?

2002-07-10 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 01:39, Peter Karlsson wrote: Is it just me, or is it impossible to activate the translation when running an install directly from the harddisk? (i386, boot-floppies current of ten minutes ago) It shouldn't make any real difference where you run from. You might need to

Bug#150333: crash after configuring network gateway

2002-06-18 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 14:41, Jelle van Kempen wrote: Today I tried to install debian on one of my computers. Some IBM 100mhz pentium system. I planned to install the base system trough the network. Everything (including the networkdriver) went fine till I entered the gateway adresses, after

Re: Translating Installer(s?) to Swedish

2002-06-15 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 12:05, Martin Sjögren wrote: I'm interested in translating the Debian installer (or is it installers?) to Swedish. There already seems to be a Swedish translation. It looks like Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the maintainer, so I guess you should liaise with him.

Re: BiDi and RTL

2002-06-11 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 08:17, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: d-i will use UTF8 as the one and only supported encoding. Having talked with dancer and moshez on IRC, this seems safe enough to do. Okay, cool. What will d-i do about non-UTF8-capable screens and serial lines, force the use of English? p.

Re: BiDi and RTL

2002-06-11 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 14:46, Chris Tillman wrote: We spend so much energy keeping the installer within a floppy's size. I move to abandon that silly goal for d-i, and simply refer folks to boot-floppies for floppy installations. It's not like it's dead and buried, and it's a good match

Re: BiDi and RTL

2002-06-10 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 02:01, Arash Zeini wrote: a while back I had asked question regarding Bidi and RTL support for the boot procedur ein Debian. Has anything changed with the new release of Debian (and maybe slang?!?!)? Bidi and RTL support may still need to be implemented but is UTF-8

Re: BiDi and RTL

2002-06-10 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 22:59, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: We want to support UTF-8. Help is needed in implementing it; there is no point in us going into the same traps twice. I can't think of any real traps that boot-floppies fell into. Most of the problems we had were either due to poor /

Re: during boot, penguin's colors go wacko

2002-06-08 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sat, 2002-06-08 at 07:46, Dan Jacobson wrote: Well, if it's a known issue, fix it fast because customers are getting the I knew it, Linux is broken message within 30 seconds of encountering linux. File a bug, someone will look at it in due course. There is nothing that we on debian-boot

Re: during boot, penguin's colors go wacko

2002-06-07 Thread Philip Blundell
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 20:35, Dan Jacobson wrote: Booting woody, after the computer boots a bitmapped penguin appears above the dmesg messages. But halfway through those messages the penguin's colors go wacko. Maybe this is on purpose, an art effect. Do others see this? Yes, it's a known

Bug#148962: boot-floppies: Inaccurately calculates/reports amount of RAM on target machine

2002-06-04 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 02:17, Jonathan Hall wrote: On my target system with 12mb of physical RAM, the boot floppies set complains that I only have 9mb, and should have 12mb to run woody. Incidentally, 9mb is what 'free' reports. Since this, IIRC, does not include kernel memory, it is

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-28 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 12:39, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Junichi Uekawa | Last time I looked, there is no charset signifier in | debconf templates, how does one know if the template is in | utf-8 or euc-jp? You don't need to do that if we decide that everything is utf8. And since d-i won't

Re: [Fwd: Re: Mac SE/30 install problem]

2002-04-30 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 10:15, Michael Schmitz wrote: Packed pixel format is in use for lots of other hardware so I'd assume it is supported in some way? Nope, I don't think bogl supports packed pixels at all. Christian and I discussed this before if I remember right.

Re: [Fwd: Re: Mac SE/30 install problem]

2002-04-29 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 13:07, Michael Schmitz wrote: Packed pixel format is in use for lots of other hardware so I'd assume it is supported in some way? Nope, I don't think bogl supports packed pixels at all. Christian and I discussed this before if I remember right. p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Mac SE/30 install problem]

2002-04-29 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 18:11, Christian T. Steigies wrote: On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 07:06:03PM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote: On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 13:07, Michael Schmitz wrote: Packed pixel format is in use for lots of other hardware so I'd assume it is supported in some way? Nope, I

Re: volunteer

2002-04-22 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 13:56, Shengyuan Chen wrote: Glad to translate install manual into Chinese. Thanks for the offer. Please get in touch with [EMAIL PROTECTED], who maintains the Chinese translation, so your efforts can be coordinated. p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 3.0.23 for mips/i386 Was: boot-floppies manual

2002-04-19 Thread Philip Blundell
On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 01:36, Florian Lohoff wrote: BTW: Do we get 3.0.23 for mips with the linux.bi fix in - Otherwise we'll have to live with the errata written down somewhere for at least a year (or 2 until the next major release) ? This is incorrect, you would only have to wait until

Bug#142305: i386 - borders gone on vanilla flavor

2002-04-15 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 15:05, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Maybe setting the lang is the right way to do, but we'd have to do it just for this i386/vanilla flavor? That seems rather nasty... I don't think there is anything useful we can set the LANG to, in any case. We don't ship an 8-bit locale on

Bug#142305: i386 - borders gone on vanilla flavor

2002-04-15 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-04-15 at 16:01, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Is having borders in vanilla flavor a release-critical thing ? (why didn't anyone notice it for ... more than a month?) People have been gently grumbling about this for ages, probably ever since LC was first switched on. Nobody has done

Re: language keymap selection

2002-04-14 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-04-14 at 17:28, Josip Rodin wrote: Will anything bad happen if an ix86 user selects the second choice and gets the sparc keymap? Not particularly, because LC doesn't directly control keymaps any more. The sparc entry in croatian.src should be removed. The new meaning for

Bug#141763: boot-floppies: Nano breaks lines when editing sources.list by hand.

2002-04-08 Thread Philip Blundell
reassign 141763 nano merge 141763 127634 thanks Please see #127634, etc. p. On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 14:12, Jesus Climent wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 01:54:55PM +0200, Emmanuel Lacour wrote: Package: boot-floppies Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-08 Severity: normal When

Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??

2002-04-05 Thread Philip Blundell
On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 19:45, Jim Westveer wrote: Before you lam-bast me with a nastygram, please grab or create a copy of the woody CD's, and try an installation with CD#1 as the disk you innitially boot from, then try the CD#3 with the bf24 kernel. The first thing you will notice is

Re: Needs feedback and testing

2002-03-31 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 13:45, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Le Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 12:47:55PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen crivait: Checking my freshly built CD, I see the following 21 language codes in .lp/: ca cs da de en eo es fi fr gl hr hu it ja ko pl pt ru sk sv tr The install menu

Re: 3.0.21 bf2.4 report

2002-03-25 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 22:38, Andreas Wüst wrote: From a design perspective, the main effect of the region chooser is to provide a complete locale string, eg de_AT rather than just de. However, this doesn't make any difference during the first stage install because the message catalogs

Re: 3.0.21 bf2.4 report

2002-03-25 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-03-25 at 23:02, Andreas Wüst wrote: Ok, I think I could do this! Is it ok when I am gonna post something on, lets say, thursday night? Would that be ok? Or is there a very close deadline for the manual to be frozen? No, that would be fine. Freezing the manual is not important,

Re: 3.0.21 bf2.4 report

2002-03-24 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 18:09, Andreas Wüst wrote: Maybe it should be better documented which effects the choice of the region will have on further installation. At the moment the effects are so trivial that I don't think it's all that important to document them. But if you would like to

Re: 3.0.21 bf2.4 report

2002-03-24 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 22:18, Andreas Wüst wrote: Well, but that's exactly the problem: I DON'T know what the effects are, and therefore I just can't estimate which language/region option would be best for me!! From a design perspective, the main effect of the region chooser is to provide a

Re: 3.0.21 bf2.4 report

2002-03-23 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 17:56, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: Why do I select a region (e.g. Deutsch (Schweiz)) here? Is it used for later settings? Right now, it just affects the defaults you are offered for the keymap and ftp mirror (if you choose to install from the network). Some programs might

Re: Problem in checking for UTF locale

2002-03-22 Thread Philip Blundell
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 15:26, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: I made some more test and I think that the correct way to test if a locale is installed is to use LC_ALL=en_IN locale charmap instead of LANG=en_IN locale charmap I guess so, yeah. LC_ALL trumps LANG, so if you have a pre-existing

Re: boot-floppies kernel version

2002-03-22 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 02:38, David Kimdon wrote: Note that there is only one of 4 boot-floppy versions using kernel 2.4, the others use 2.2.20. Does 2.2.20 have working plip? It does. I used a PLIP connection (with the idepci flavour) to install on my old laptop this morning, and didn't

Re: Problem in checking for UTF locale

2002-03-22 Thread Philip Blundell
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 17:17, Mikhail Sobolev wrote: IMHO, LC_CTYPE=en_IN locale charmap would be the most appropriate. This would still lose if the user has defined LC_ALL in the environment. p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Bug#139043: ARM] Please mention conflict with noinitrd boot option

2002-03-21 Thread Philip Blundell
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 14:21, Rod Stewart wrote: You must use eth0 (10-baseT) ne2k(piece of crap) for the tftpboot. Yes, it is possible to boot off eth1, but the Debian kernels do not support it, and you have to pass lots of parameters with cmdappend, it is ugly. Eh? The kernel

Bug#139043: ARM] Please mention conflict with noinitrd boot option

2002-03-21 Thread Philip Blundell
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 14:42, Rod Stewart wrote: I thought you built the tulip as a module? Which would make it at least fun if not impossible to boot off of, wouldn't it? Oh, wait, I was thinking about also booting with and NFS root. Yes, you are right for the Debian install it 'should'

Bug#139043: ARM] Please mention conflict with noinitrd boot option

2002-03-21 Thread Philip Blundell
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 13:26, Adam C Powell IV wrote: command to review your environment settings. Finally, if your cmdappend NeTTrom variable has the noinitrd option (which is necessary to boot 2.4 kernels), Is this actually still necessary with the latest 2.4 kernels? I thought it was

Re: boot-floppies Chinese translation is in bad shape

2002-03-18 Thread Philip Blundell
On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 03:47, sunhui wrote: I am a Chinese and a new guy on Linux, but I would like to be involved in Open Source community. I found your message on web and am interested in it. I hope you can give me more detail information about it. So I can figure out what I can do for that.

Re: patch for zh_CN.po

2002-03-18 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 14:56, malix wrote: hello phil, I have made a patch for zh_CN.po. it is 11% finished. Would you like to patch it into cvs? Thanks, I checked it in. p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#138468: locale warnings while extracting base

2002-03-18 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 16:02, Matt Kraai wrote: When I test these settings on my installed system, it appears that Perl is unhappy with the `@utf-8' part of LC_CTYPE. Is this a valid locale, or are the boot-floppies blowing smoke? It is a valid locale, but only while you are running in the

Bug#138468: locale warnings while extracting base

2002-03-18 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 16:28, Matt Kraai wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 04:14:01PM +, Philip Blundell wrote: On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 16:02, Matt Kraai wrote: When I test these settings on my installed system, it appears that Perl is unhappy with the `@utf-8' part of LC_CTYPE

Bug#138468: locale warnings while extracting base

2002-03-18 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 16:43, Matt Kraai wrote: According to the LI18NUX2000 SPEC, with Amendament 3 [sic], UTF-8 coded character set should be usable under the `C' locale. Wow. If we remove the `@utf-8', does something actually break? Right now? Yes, dbootstrap selects LC based on the

Bug#138468: locale warnings while extracting base

2002-03-18 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 16:43, Matt Kraai wrote: According to the LI18NUX2000 SPEC, with Amendament 3 [sic], UTF-8 coded character set should be usable under the `C' locale. I looked at the document and I think you are misreading it. My interpretation is that it requires implementations to

Bug#138468: locale warnings while extracting base

2002-03-18 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 18:08, Matt Kraai wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 04:52:08PM +, Philip Blundell wrote: On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 16:43, Matt Kraai wrote: If we remove the `@utf-8', does something actually break? Right now? Yes, dbootstrap selects LC based on the presence

Re: zh_CN.po broken

2002-03-18 Thread Philip Blundell
On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 21:39, Claus Hindsgaul wrote: It is true that it can be annoying to have a make update-po happening in the CVS while you are working on a po-patch. I have done a make-po whenever I discovered that 10 or more messages were changed, so people don't waste their time

Re: verbose quiet

2002-03-17 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 02:11, Chris Tillman wrote: Here's a list of the effects verbose and quiet have on dbootstrap. verbose: For LiveCD, ask for the install media (should be livecd) Always ask which mountpoint to mount volumes to Warn that earlier kernels do not support newer filesystems

Bug#138653: boot-floppies: Language chooser '#' on right hand side looks funny

2002-03-17 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 11:37, Junichi Uekawa wrote: This should probably be conditional depending on the number of languages (can we determine it at compile-time?) Apparently, NEWT_FLAG_SCROLL forces having a scroll bar. You can put an upper bound on the number of languages at compile time,

Bug#138653: boot-floppies: Language chooser '#' on right hand side looks funny

2002-03-17 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 12:48, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Also, why does it seem to use graphical chars under uxterm, and not under b-f. It is terminfo related? Well, it works if you do something like this. (Obviously you need to arrange for unifont-reduced.bgf to include the 25xx characters too.)

Bug#138653: boot-floppies: Language chooser '#' on right hand side looks funny

2002-03-17 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 14:21, Philip Blundell wrote: Well, it works if you do something like this. (Obviously you need to arrange for unifont-reduced.bgf to include the 25xx characters too.) For anybody who wants to try this out, this patch should cause the appropriate stuff to be added

Re: Bug#134014: bterm causes split screen

2002-03-17 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 20:00, Chris Tillman wrote: The patch works! Thanks Dan! It also helps the appearance because it's sized properly now. Adam, we need a new bterm to come in for the next build to fix this. If we're going to have a new bterm anyway, I would be inclined to put the

Bug#138468: locale warnings while extracting base

2002-03-16 Thread Philip Blundell
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 09:37, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: (And I'm unable to find anything setting LC_CTYPE before debootstrap is called.) Udbootstrap sets it. p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: losetup on boot-floppies

2002-03-12 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 17:19, Eduard Bloch wrote: Missing arguments. Though it does not work, now it even fails on the first ioctl. Personally, I want to have losetup on BFs anyways. OK, yeah, let's do it. p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: upgrading makedev

2002-03-12 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 16:03, Matt Kraai wrote: How can I make this work, without upgrading my entire system to Sid? Do I need to add something to my sources.list? Yeah, you need to put an unstable entry in sources.list. For things like makedev and debootstrap, you probably also have to stick

Re: Problems running boot-floppies directly from harddisk(install.bat)

2002-03-12 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 18:39, peter karlsson wrote: I can't get the installer from the latest boot-floppies to run from the from-DOS installer, I get it to start loading, but when it tries to uncompress the kernel I get a Ran out of input data - system halted error. I have re-downloaded all

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