Re: release status update

2004-07-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 03:11:11PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 I've submitted what I hope will be the final debian-installer build to the
 autobuilders, but it seems that recent dependency breakage in newt will
 cause some of the builds to fail. I hope I can ask the autobuilders to
 retry, but this will likely delay things for a few days.
 
 At this point it's probably too late to get any changes into udebs in
 the initrds, and there are probably only a few days left to make changes
 to other udebs. Any changes will be synced to testing on a per-udeb
 basis again until we release, so you have to give me a very good reason
 to put in a change.

Please consider including the base-installer 1.01 and the nobootloader 0.17
.udebs i uploaded today. The 1.01 base-installer include a nicer way to handle
powerpc kernels with builtin initrd, and also makes sure that kernel upgraded
after the install will be functional.

The nobootloader change include giving exacter booting instructions for the
powerpc/chrp_pegasos (a thing which could be cloned for other arches without
boot loader but with known boot procedures), as well as add the logic for the
generic case. Ideally, a string change would be needed to tell the user about
the partition in which to find the kernel in the generic case, but this can
wait for after the beta5/rc1 release, but it would look nicer. The string
change is not a sever one though, just adding on partition ${BOOT} in the
boot instruction to know where the kernel is.

Friendly,

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discover on powerbook [was: Re: release status update]

2004-04-25 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il dom, 2004-04-25 alle 00:13, Petter Reinholdtsen ha scritto:
 [Giuseppe Sacco]
  A second problem I understand only now is that the powerpc discover
  we have in testing now is broken: every time I switch on my laptop
  (powerbook g4, 15, 867Mhz) it hangs when discover run and probe for
  parallel port devices. This means that I have to press the keyboard
  combination to reset the machine.
 
 I believe this is fixed in the version of discover1 that went into
 sarge last night.  Discover was instructed to not probe paralell and
 serial ports at boot time, but there was a bug making it ignore this
 instruction.  Please test if this is fixed or not, and add info to bug
 #237603 (and possibly #214790).
 
  Now I am upgrading the machine and it is downloading the new
  discover 2.0.4-3 with discover-data 2.2004.04.09-1, so this might be
  changed. I will let you know.
 
 I do not know if this is fixed in version 2 of discover.  I suspect it
 is not.

the upgrade was from testing 2004-04-17 to 2004-04-24 and discover
changed from 1.5-2 to 2.0.4-3. The problem seems fixed, but I only tried
once. I will do some more tests and I'll update the bug reports.

Bye,
Giuseppe



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Re: release status update

2004-04-24 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Langasek wrote:
 - qlogicisp driver doesn't work right with many (most?) SCSI cards;
   bug #238593 et al.
 - both the de4x5 and the tulip drivers fail to work with many
   DECChip-based ethernet cards in the 2.4.2x series alpha kernels;
   bug #228654.

Both of these sound like reasonable candidates for errata if they're not
fixed, and not release blockers. Do you want them in the errata?

 It also seems fairly certain that the netboot images don't work on alpha
 (unless they were fixed while I wasn't looking).  I don't seem to have a
 way to test these anyway, as telling SRM to boot from ethernet generates
 no network traffic here.

Right, I see that's marked as being nonfunctonal on the ports status page.

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Re: release status update

2004-04-24 Thread elijah wright


  - both the de4x5 and the tulip drivers fail to work with many
DECChip-based ethernet cards in the 2.4.2x series alpha kernels;
bug #228654.

 Both of these sound like reasonable candidates for errata if they're not
 fixed, and not release blockers. Do you want them in the errata?

does this bug affect the onboard tulip ethernet that comes with most of
the alpha hardware?  if so, its a real bad bug.

elijah


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Re: release status update

2004-04-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 12:54:18PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 Steve Langasek wrote:
  - qlogicisp driver doesn't work right with many (most?) SCSI cards;
bug #238593 et al.
  - both the de4x5 and the tulip drivers fail to work with many
DECChip-based ethernet cards in the 2.4.2x series alpha kernels;
bug #228654.

 Both of these sound like reasonable candidates for errata if they're not
 fixed, and not release blockers. Do you want them in the errata?

Yes, please.

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Re: release status update

2004-04-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 12:16:44PM -0500, elijah wright wrote:
   - both the de4x5 and the tulip drivers fail to work with many
 DECChip-based ethernet cards in the 2.4.2x series alpha kernels;
 bug #228654.

  Both of these sound like reasonable candidates for errata if they're not
  fixed, and not release blockers. Do you want them in the errata?

 does this bug affect the onboard tulip ethernet that comes with most of
 the alpha hardware?  if so, its a real bad bug.

It affects many (I don't know if we can say most) onboard tulip chips
that came with alphas.  There are actually a wide range of chips covered
by the tulip and de4x5 drivers that were distributed by Digital; I don't
know yet if there's a clear pattern of which chips are affected, or if
the problem has more to do with the associated hardware (such as PCI
configuration and chipsets).

It is a very bad bug, but I don't know that it's feasible to do much
about it in the 2.4 kernel series in time for sarge.

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Re: release status update

2004-04-24 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il gio, 2004-04-22 alle 18:55, Joey Hess ha scritto:
[...]
 - powerpc: need list of working subarches (oldworld?)

I would like to have powerpc release only after having
kernel-image-2.4.25-powerpc-* version 2.4.25-8 in testing
because of #245012.

A second problem I understand only now is that the powerpc discover we
have in testing now is broken: every time I switch on my laptop
(powerbook g4, 15, 867Mhz) it hangs when discover run and probe for
parallel port devices. This means that I have to press the keyboard
combination to reset the machine.

The problem appear *only* when the machine is powered on, and it's not
appearing when I reboot it.

When it hangs, the keyboard isn't working and the led (the only one this
machine has) is on.

Now I am upgrading the machine and it is downloading the new discover
2.0.4-3 with discover-data 2.2004.04.09-1, so this might be changed. I
will let you know.

Bye,
Giuseppe


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Re: release status update

2004-04-24 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Giuseppe Sacco]
 A second problem I understand only now is that the powerpc discover
 we have in testing now is broken: every time I switch on my laptop
 (powerbook g4, 15, 867Mhz) it hangs when discover run and probe for
 parallel port devices. This means that I have to press the keyboard
 combination to reset the machine.

I believe this is fixed in the version of discover1 that went into
sarge last night.  Discover was instructed to not probe paralell and
serial ports at boot time, but there was a bug making it ignore this
instruction.  Please test if this is fixed or not, and add info to bug
#237603 (and possibly #214790).

 Now I am upgrading the machine and it is downloading the new
 discover 2.0.4-3 with discover-data 2.2004.04.09-1, so this might be
 changed. I will let you know.

I do not know if this is fixed in version 2 of discover.  I suspect it
is not.


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Re: release status update

2004-04-24 Thread Joey Hess
Giuseppe Sacco wrote:
 I would like to have powerpc release only after having
 kernel-image-2.4.25-powerpc-* version 2.4.25-8 in testing
 because of #245012.

If I'm expanding yuor wildcard correctly, they seem to go in
tonight/tomorrow. Anyway, you have several days to get them in, but this
does not feel like a release blocker to me if they do not make it.

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Re: release status update

2004-04-23 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-22 22:15]:
  was loaded since it has a different sub-architecture (however, iirc,
  delo-installer is also loaded on Cobalt, so I assume sub-arch handling
  is broken).
 
 Argh, not again. libdebian-installer 0.22 went into the archive today
 with some fixes for subarch handling, in particular #243692. Was that
 version on your image?

No, I had 0.21.1.  I'll test with 0.22 tonight; thanks for pointing
this out.
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Re: release status update

2004-04-23 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* tbm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-23 01:43]:
  - arm: ?
 
 arm/netwinder most definitely works.  It worked recently and there is

It works; the only problem I had was that the wrong kernel was
installed.  For some reason, debian-installer/kernel/subarchitecture
was not set.  Unfortunately, I cannot quite figure out why.  (I just
tried on mipsel and it definitely gets set there.)

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Re: release status update

2004-04-23 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 * tbm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-23 01:43]:
   - arm: ?
  
  arm/netwinder most definitely works.  It worked recently and there is
 
 It works; the only problem I had was that the wrong kernel was
 installed.  For some reason, debian-installer/kernel/subarchitecture
 was not set.  Unfortunately, I cannot quite figure out why.  (I just
 tried on mipsel and it definitely gets set there.)

Does archdetect show the correct output for netwinder?


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Re: release status update

2004-04-23 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-23 16:32]:
 Does archdetect show the correct output for netwinder?

Yes.

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Re: release status update

2004-04-23 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-22 22:15]:
 Argh, not again. libdebian-installer 0.22 went into the archive today
 with some fixes for subarch handling, in particular #243692. Was that
 version on your image?

I tried it with 0.22 now and still see the same... it's quite strange.
Just for reference: colo-installer is for mipsel/cobalt while
delo-installer is for mipsel/r3k-kn02 and mipsel/r4k-kn04.  On
mipsel/r3k-kn02, it installs colo-installer and delo-installer, but on
mipsel/cobalt it only installs colo-installer.  Looking at the logs, I
get this on mipsel/r3k-kn02 (egrep -n (colo|delo)-install syslog):

396:Apr 23 18:30:52 (none) user.debug anna[825]: DEBUG: install delo-installer, 
priority = standard 
452:Apr 23 18:30:53 (none) user.debug anna[825]: DEBUG: search for package resolving 
kernel-installer, dependency from delo-installer 
453:Apr 23 18:30:53 (none) user.debug anna[825]: DEBUG: install di-utils-mapdevfs, 
dependency from delo-installer 
482:Apr 23 18:30:53 (none) user.debug anna[825]: DEBUG: install colo-installer, 
dependency from prebaseconfig 
498:Apr 23 18:30:53 (none) user.debug anna[825]: DEBUG: search for package resolving 
kernel-installer, dependency from colo-installer 
499:Apr 23 18:30:53 (none) user.debug anna[825]: DEBUG: install di-utils-mapdevfs, 
dependency from colo-installer 
566:Apr 23 18:34:30 (none) user.debug main-menu[145]: DEBUG: search for package 
resolving kernel-installer, dependency from colo-installer 
569:Apr 23 18:34:30 (none) user.info main-menu[145]: INFO: Falling back to the package 
description for colo-installer 
...

On mipsel/cobalt, I get:

417:Jan  1 00:01:09 (none) user.debug anna[924]: DEBUG: install colo-installer, 
priority = standard 
487:Jan  1 00:01:09 (none) user.debug anna[924]: DEBUG: search for package resolving 
kernel-installer, dependency from colo-installer 
488:Jan  1 00:01:09 (none) user.debug anna[924]: DEBUG: install di-utils-mapdevfs, 
dependency from colo-installer 
531:Jan  1 00:01:09 (none) user.debug anna[924]: DEBUG: search for package resolving 
kernel-installer, dependency from colo-installer 
532:Jan  1 00:01:09 (none) user.debug anna[924]: DEBUG: install di-utils-mapdevfs, 
dependency from colo-installer 
596:Jan  1 00:02:26 (none) user.debug main-menu[143]: DEBUG: search for package 
resolving kernel-installer, dependency from colo-installer 
599:Jan  1 00:02:26 (none) user.info main-menu[143]: INFO: Falling back to the package 
description for colo-installer 
667:Jan  1 00:02:44 (none) user.debug main-menu[143]: DEBUG: search for package 
resolving kernel-installer, dependency from colo-installer 
...

AFAICT, the packages are done properly:

 Package: delo-installer
 Version: 0.003
 Section: debian-installer
 Priority: standard
 Architecture: mipsel
 Depends: cdebconf-udeb, kernel-installer, di-utils-mapdevfs
 Provides: bootable-system
 Installed-Size: 44
 Maintainer: Debian Install System Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Description: Install Delo on a hard disk
  This udeb will install Delo on the hard disk.
 installer-menu-item: 73
 subarchitecture: r3k-kn02 r4k-kn04

and:

 Package: colo-installer
 Version: 0.02
 Section: debian-installer
 Priority: standard
 Architecture: mipsel
 Depends: cdebconf-udeb, kernel-installer, di-utils-mapdevfs
 Provides: bootable-system
 Installed-Size: 24
 Maintainer: Debian Install System Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Description: Install the Cobalt boot loader on your disk
  This udeb will install the Cobalt loader colo on your hard disk.
 installer-menu-item: 73
 subarchitecture: cobalt

Any idea what's going on?
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Re: release status update

2004-04-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:55:06PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 I'm trying to track status of various architectures at the top of TODO,
 here is what I have so far.

 - ia64: There is a devpts/sysvinit/glibc file conflict of some
 sort that breaks debootstrap. Need a bug #. (Might be
 related to #230857)

This is bug #238963, which also affects alpha; it has been (hopefully)
fixed by the recent -12 upload of glibc, which is currently in unstable
but not in testing.

 - alpha: still SCSI cd problems?

I've just seen that this is fixed in version 2.4.25-3 of the
kernel-image-2.4.25-1-generic package.  I can do a rebuild of the d-i
kernel package this evening (~3hrs), or if anyone else is willing and
able to get this uploaded sooner, feel free.

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Re: release status update

2004-04-22 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:55:06PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
 - m68k: need list of working subarches

mac and amiga are fully supported.

I hope to have support for the rest in the next couple of weeks or so, 
but if they aren't ready for release, so be it.

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Re: release status update

2004-04-22 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-22 12:55]:
 - mipsel: looks good

I just did a successful installation on a DECstation 5000/133 via the
serial console.  Everything worked fine, apart from one thing: both
colo-installer and delo-installer got loaded, and colo-installer was
executed instead of delo-installer.  I have no idea why colo-installer
was loaded since it has a different sub-architecture (however, iirc,
delo-installer is also loaded on Cobalt, so I assume sub-arch handling
is broken).

p2 said that bogl crashes when he tries a DECstation install with a
video card, but it worked for Karsten recently.  I asked Karsten to
see if it works for him.

In any case, d-i definitely works on DECstation via the serial console
and is ready for beta4.  That is, mipsel/r3k-kn02 and mipsel/r4k-kn04
(DECstation with R3000 and R4000 CPUs).

mipsel/cobalt also works.  The only problem is that you (currently)
need an existing Linux installation in order to boot d-i.  This will
be fixed after beta4 (I'm waiting for the upstream author of colo to
implement net booting).  Apart from this, Cobalt installations work.
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Re: release status update

2004-04-22 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-22 12:55]:
 I'm trying to track status of various architectures at the top of TODO,
 here is what I have so far.
 
 - arm: ?

arm/netwinder most definitely works.  It worked recently and there is
afaict nothing that broke it in the meantime.  arm/bast and
arm/riscstation probably work as well.

I hope I can do a test on arm/netwinder tomorrow to confirm.
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Re: release status update

2004-04-22 Thread Joey Hess
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 I just did a successful installation on a DECstation 5000/133 via the
 serial console.  Everything worked fine, apart from one thing: both
 colo-installer and delo-installer got loaded, and colo-installer was
 executed instead of delo-installer.  I have no idea why colo-installer
 was loaded since it has a different sub-architecture (however, iirc,
 delo-installer is also loaded on Cobalt, so I assume sub-arch handling
 is broken).

Argh, not again. libdebian-installer 0.22 went into the archive today
with some fixes for subarch handling, in particular #243692. Was that
version on your image?

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Re: release status update

2004-03-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 10:29:28PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
   3. at least one successful installation report per boot method
 
 I have not had time to track installation reports. Could someone take
 a pass through the list of recent reports and post a summary to the list
 please? My vague impressions:
 
 - i386 is generally working ok
 - powerpc is working ok the subarches that worked last time
 - once again we are almost out of time on including any more powerpc
   subarches

No, this is not quite exact.

chrp, chrp-rs6k and prep will be working this time around, i think
everything is there, but i need to fiddle the build system for it still
to build the initrd images, but i do this already by hand, and
everything is in place for it. This would use the powerpc netboot
initrd. 

the cdrom initrd is too big though, i will not have time to fix the
kernel for this, so maybe building a new specialized initrd image with
all the apple stuff removed would do, not sure though.

The powerpc-small floppy target will probably not be on time. Jeremie is
working on the miboot upload, and once that reaches the archive, the
build system can be fixed.

power3 and power4/G5 kernels and initrd are not yet done, but i will
have a go at them this week, so hopefully that will be ok. Kernels for
G5 powerpmac have not been tested, despite my call for volunteer, but if
they don't work out, 2.6 kernels will be needed.

It needs linux-kernel-di support for the modules, which i hear is
problematic, and some volunteer to test them.

  Here is a short list of things that need to be done still before release:
 
 And an update, as if you can't read the top of TODO yourselves. :-)
 
  - partman
 - testing!
 - clean up lvmcfg UI issue
 - probably go for i386, powerpc; other arches unknown

I tested it on powerpc, altough couldn't do much tests. My disk has
vital information i cannot afford to loose. More to this in a separate
mail.

Friendly,

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Re: release status update

2004-03-09 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 10:29:28PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
[...]
 The string freeze has not quite started, since a few strings were
 changed today. Hopefully we've seen the last of that

I also just rewrote most of the strings for the cdebconf text frontend.
They should certainly be reviewed by a native English speaker though,
one only has to commit changes in cdebconf-text-udeb.templates as usual,
and I will patch source files accordingly.

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Re: release status update

2004-03-09 Thread Joey Hess
Sven Luther wrote:
 chrp, chrp-rs6k and prep will be working this time around, i think
 everything is there, but i need to fiddle the build system for it still
 to build the initrd images, but i do this already by hand, and
 everything is in place for it. This would use the powerpc netboot
 initrd. 
 
 the cdrom initrd is too big though, i will not have time to fix the
 kernel for this, so maybe building a new specialized initrd image with
 all the apple stuff removed would do, not sure though.
 
 The powerpc-small floppy target will probably not be on time. Jeremie is
 working on the miboot upload, and once that reaches the archive, the
 build system can be fixed.
 
 power3 and power4/G5 kernels and initrd are not yet done, but i will
 have a go at them this week, so hopefully that will be ok. Kernels for
 G5 powerpmac have not been tested, despite my call for volunteer, but if
 they don't work out, 2.6 kernels will be needed.
 
 It needs linux-kernel-di support for the modules, which i hear is
 problematic, and some volunteer to test them.

Unless I see patches in the archive in the next day or two for the
above, I can't imagine you'll make it.

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Re: release status update (grub notes)

2004-03-09 Thread Walter Tautz
  - lowmem package must enter archive
  - Check archive for udebs that need to be built on various arches;
make sure everything is up-to-date. Also, make sure that eg,
appropriate kernel debs have entered the archive on each
architecture.

one thing I noticed with a recent daily build (March 3 I believe is
that the GRUB installer does NOT seem to offer the option of putting
in other bootable entries, much like the lilo installer in woody would
offer the user




  - Write a release announcement.

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