Bug#391935: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2009-01-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Robert Millan writes (Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org): On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 07:45:07PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: The people responsible for these decisions in Ubuntu didn't worry about the non-freeness of the logo. Ubuntu would have been

Bug#391935: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2009-01-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Robert Millan writes (Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org): This leads me to believe that, if we had kept using the non-free logo, our set of Debian-specific changes to the package would have been a non-issue, or at least a minor one. I disagree

Bug#391935: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 07:45:07PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Robert Millan writes (Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org): This leads me to believe that, if we had kept using the non-free logo, our set of Debian-specific changes to the package

Bug#391935: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2009-01-14 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 08:24:54PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Robert Millan writes ([Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org): On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 02:15:29PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Actually, I think there were two problems with firefox

Bug#391935: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2009-01-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Robert Millan writes ([Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org): On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 02:15:29PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Actually, I think there were two problems with firefox: the logo issue (that was solved by changing the icon), and the use

Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2009-01-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 02:15:29PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: Actually, I think there were two problems with firefox: the logo issue (that was solved by changing the icon), and the use of the Firefox trademark, which required anyone who wanted to use the name firefox to use only official

Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2009-01-11 Thread Robert Millan
Hi Ben, On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 07:58:25PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: If the work will be modified in Debian, and if that would require a name change under the trademark license, presumably we have another “Firefox” → “Iceweasel” situation and would have to rename the work ourselves in

Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2009-01-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Robert! You wrote: If the work will be modified in Debian, and if that would require a name change under the trademark license, presumably we have another “Firefox” → “Iceweasel” situation and would have to rename the work ourselves in order to redistribute it in Debian. The

Bug#391935: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2008-10-09 Thread paddy
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 01:33:22PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: Any free/community use can do whatever it wants, quite literally. Any commercial distribution that wishes to call itself Xen must be compatible with other Xen branded commercial offerings, otherwise the commercial

Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2008-10-08 Thread Ben Finney
On 07-Oct-2008, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 07 octobre 2008 à 10:31 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : I’ll ask for clarifications about the rest. And here are the clarifications. Thanks very much for your efforts here. My understanding is the following: If someone wants to make an

Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2008-10-08 Thread Ben Finney
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:23:27 -0700 From: Simon Crosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: About the Xen trademark policy -Original Message- From: Josselin Mouette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:31 AM * Are we allowed to distribute commercially

Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2008-10-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 07 octobre 2008 à 12:48 +1100, Ben Finney a écrit : Yes, we do need more detail; we need to know that *any* recipient of Debian can redistribute the work to anyone else, modified or unmodified, commercially or otherwise. (Or to know that these actions are not allowed, so that we

Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2008-10-07 Thread Ben Finney
On 07-Oct-2008, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 07 octobre 2008 à 12:48 +1100, Ben Finney a écrit : Yes, we do need more detail; we need to know that *any* recipient of Debian can redistribute the work to anyone else, modified or unmodified, commercially or otherwise. (Or to know that

Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2008-10-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 07 octobre 2008 à 19:58 +1100, Ben Finney a écrit : As for the modified or unmodified, I think we have already considered it acceptable to require a name change for significant modifications made by third-party distributors. For example, though I’m not sure, I think this is

Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2008-10-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 07 octobre 2008 à 10:31 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit : I’ll ask for clarifications about the rest. And here are the clarifications. My understanding is the following: * We can call the distributed software Xen as long as it is compatible with upstream regarding to VM

Bug#391935: Bug #391935: Re: The answer from Citrix Xen.org

2008-10-06 Thread Ben Finney
On 03-Oct-2008, Josselin Mouette wrote: I simply asked to upstream for a clarification on the use of the Xen trademark, and received two unambiguous answers. Thank you for this work. From Citrix: Actually, for the community, you can do whatever you like. The FIT test