Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-05-13 Thread Matthias Dellweg
notfound 622309 168-1 notfound 622309 168-2 thanks You are right, I'm sorry. It looks more like #624469 now. I will present my findings there. Am Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2011 schrieb Marco d'Itri: So it obviously cannot be the same bug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-05-12 Thread Rens Houben
This bug still exists in the latest unstable version of udev on my system. At boot time, it gives the following output (transcribed from a photo taken with my cellphone camera): Starting the hotplug events dispatcher: udevdudevd[435]: error: directory '/run/udev/ not writable, for now falling

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-05-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 12, Rens Houben sha...@systemec.nl wrote: This bug still exists in the latest unstable version of udev on my system. No, it does not. This is about #624469: udevd[435]: bind failed: Address already in use error binding udev control socket udevd[435]: error binding control socket

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-05-11 Thread Matthias Dellweg
found 622309 168-1 found 622309 168-2 thanks I have the same problem again with both versions 168-1 and 168-2. And I double checked there is no /run. There must be yet another trigger. Downgrading to 167-3 from snapshot ensures a working computer again. Regards, Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-05-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 11, Matthias Dellweg 2...@gmx.de wrote: I have the same problem again with both versions 168-1 and 168-2. And I double checked there is no /run. So it obviously cannot be the same bug. There must be yet another trigger. Then find out what it is. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-29 Thread René Mérou
I have installed the 168-1 and it broke my X input. I did not have /run directory but it was still broken. I have downgrade to 161-1 following babilen i cthuluh guides this packages: libgudev-1.0-0_161-1_amd64.deb libudev0_161-1_amd64.deb udev_161-1_amd64.deb And that fixed the problem for

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-26 Thread rleigh
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 03:37:50PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 19, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: (eth0 is configured here after changing the config to force it to use dhcp). Since the interface is already up, maybe that's the reason the events aren't generated. So I guess the

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-20 Thread rleigh
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 03:37:50PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 19, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: (eth0 is configured here after changing the config to force it to use dhcp). Since the interface is already up, maybe that's the reason the events aren't generated. So I guess the

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 18, Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it wrote: As a result, I am still unconvinced that the udev logic is correct. You can test your theory by rebuilding udev without the use_run_tmpfs patch, I cannot reproduce your problem and apparently nobody else can. Are there any news? The current status

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-19 Thread rleigh
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:48:06PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 18, Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it wrote: As a result, I am still unconvinced that the udev logic is correct. You can test your theory by rebuilding udev without the use_run_tmpfs patch, I cannot reproduce your problem and

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-19 Thread rleigh
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 01:53:19PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:48:06PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 18, Marco d'Itri m...@linux.it wrote: As a result, I am still unconvinced that the udev logic is correct. You can test your theory by rebuilding udev

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 19, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: (eth0 is configured here after changing the config to force it to use dhcp). Since the interface is already up, maybe that's the reason the events aren't generated. So I guess the question now is, what's bringing up the interface before ifupdown

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-18 Thread rleigh
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 08:50:23PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 16, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Maybe your initramfs was not rebuilt to include the code which mounts /run? Why would that be required? /run is mounted by mountkernfs, before udevd is started.

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 18, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: (In the case of /dev/shm, we can make this happen at the point /run/shm is mounted unlike for the other filesystems; it looks like for dependency-based boot, this might be required. But on my system, this is /not/ the cause of the networking

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-17 Thread rleigh
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 01:37:27AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 16, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Whether or not /run is a tmpfs or not is *irrelevant* to whether or not udev should use it. The choice of filesystem is entirely up to the admin, and while the default is to use

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-17 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 17, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: The tradeoff here is that if /run is present, udev is broken. That It is not supposed to, and so far you are the only one who reported this. Are you sure that you do not have a /run/udev on the underlying root filesystem? But you can not use /run

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-17 Thread rleigh
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 01:16:49PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 17, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: The tradeoff here is that if /run is present, udev is broken. That It is not supposed to, and so far you are the only one who reported this. Are you sure that you do not have a

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-17 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 16, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Maybe your initramfs was not rebuilt to include the code which mounts /run? Why would that be required? /run is mounted by mountkernfs, before udevd is started. Because if /run in the initramfs does not exist or is not a tmpfs then

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-16 Thread rleigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:06:46AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 12, Krzysztof Krzyżaniak e...@wikia-inc.com wrote: - after boot there is /run folder, it's regular filesystem not tmpfs. Then rm -rf /run/udev/ and everything will work fine, this behaviour is expected. This is resulting

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 16, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Not sure why udev is broken; it's using both locations from the look of things. Maybe something it needs has been written to one and it's not present in the other or something? rm -rf /run/udev/ ffs! It will not be created again by -2 unless /run

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-16 Thread rleigh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 02:34:02PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 16, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Not sure why udev is broken; it's using both locations from the look of things. Maybe something it needs has been written to one and it's not present in the other or something? rm

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 16, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Not sure why udev is broken; it's using both locations from the look of things. Maybe something it needs has been written to Maybe your initramfs was not rebuilt to include the code which mounts /run? Either way, please fix udev to work with the

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-16 Thread rleigh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 03:15:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 16, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Not sure why udev is broken; it's using both locations from the look of things. Maybe something it needs has been written to Maybe your initramfs was not rebuilt to include the code

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 16, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Maybe your initramfs was not rebuilt to include the code which mounts /run? Why would that be required? /run is mounted by mountkernfs, before udevd is started. Because if /run in the initramfs does not exist or is not a tmpfs then /dev/.udev/

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-16 Thread rleigh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 06:01:20PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 16, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Maybe your initramfs was not rebuilt to include the code which mounts /run? Why would that be required? /run is mounted by mountkernfs, before udevd is started. Because if

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 16, rleigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Whether or not /run is a tmpfs or not is *irrelevant* to whether or not udev should use it. The choice of filesystem is entirely up to the admin, and while the default is to use tmpfs, it is not udev's business to alter its behaviour depending on

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-13 Thread Christian Ohm
On Tuesday, 12 April 2011 at 4:45, Marco d'Itri wrote: It makes a difference if you have a /run directory. Do you have one *now*? If you do, rm -rf /run/udev/ and reboot. Removing /run completely helped. I'm not sure why it was there, but since just by existing it breaks udev, maybe whatever

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-12 Thread Krzysztof Krzyżaniak
I can confirm bug and can give you more details if you tell me how to do this. So far: - ii udev 167-2 /dev/ and hotplug management daemon - after reboot on first phase of boot there is information that /etc/init.d/udev can't write into /run/ - after boot there is /run folder, it's

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-12 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 12, Krzysztof Krzyżaniak e...@wikia-inc.com wrote: - after boot there is /run folder, it's regular filesystem not tmpfs. Then rm -rf /run/udev/ and everything will work fine, this behaviour is expected. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-12 Thread Krzysztof Krzyżaniak
On 12.04.2011 11:06, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 12, Krzysztof Krzyżaniake...@wikia-inc.com wrote: - after boot there is /run folder, it's regular filesystem not tmpfs. Then rm -rf /run/udev/ and everything will work fine, this behaviour is expected. confirmed. eloy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-11 Thread Christian Ohm
Package: udev Version: 166-1 Severity: critical Justification: breaks unrelated software Hello, after updating my system to udev 167-2 and rebooting, things stopped working. Sound and network were completely dead, X input (ps2 keyboard and usb mouse) was dead until I dis- and reconnected the

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 12, Christian Ohm chr@gmx.net wrote: Possibly this is the same problem as in #621036, except that is marked as being fixed in 167-2, which didn't work here. Then looks like you will have to find out why, because so far it is working for everybody else. Do you have a run? Is it a

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-11 Thread Christian Ohm
On Tuesday, 12 April 2011 at 4:07, Marco d'Itri wrote: Then looks like you will have to find out why, because so far it is working for everybody else. Do you have a run? Is it a tmpfs? Does it contain anything? I have to admit that I am not very keen on experimenting much with my main system

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 12, Christian Ohm chr@gmx.net wrote: I have to admit that I am not very keen on experimenting much with my main system (and my second one is not working atm). Do you have anything specific to look for? And I have to admit that I have no time to waste with reticent bug reporters.

Bug#622309: udev: Network, sound and X input broken

2011-04-11 Thread Christian Ohm
On Tuesday, 12 April 2011 at 4:45, Marco d'Itri wrote: There was a /run on the harddisk after running 167-2, which had iirc five subdirectories. Reading the other bugreport I deleted it though. In case it makes a difference, I updated from 166-1 to 167-1 and without rebooting to 167-2.