Bug#403803: pine: Please switch to gettext-based debconf templates
severity 403803 important thanks Hi, Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20/12/2006): On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Thomas Huriaux wrote: I support pine only partially, so I have added debconf stuff to allow for unattented installs, but that's all. Do you allow me or any other people caring about i18n to do the job for you, either by NMUing the package or by providing full patches? Or should we just stay away from that package? You should stay away, really. In addition to being non-free, there are two additional reasons why I think this should not be done, as it would be a complete waste of time: a) It is likely that pine will eventually be replaced by alpine (once alpine is mature enough). b) There should be a mta-base package on which packages like this may depend, so that we do not duplicate the same debconf questions about /etc/mailname and /etc/news/server over and over again in every package managing those files. The i18n support in all debconf-using packages being a release goal for Lenny (http://release.debian.org/lenny-goals.txt), I'm raising the severity to important. In the case of pine, there are 3 different ways to fix the package, depending on what comes first: * Lenny is released: the switch must be done long enough before to give time to translators to translate the package. * A mta-base package is created: pine-tracker/note must be switched to po-debconf (or moved to a News.Debian file, as it is really close to a debconf abuse). The two other templates will then be removed. * alpine replaces pine: this bug will be closed together with other pine's bugs. Cheers, -- Thomas Huriaux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#403803: pine: Please switch to gettext-based debconf templates
Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20/12/2006): tags 403803 + wontfix thanks On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Thomas Huriaux wrote: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] (19/12/2006): On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Thomas Huriaux wrote: Please use gettext-based debconf templates to allow translations, as recommended by the developers-reference (section 6.5.2.2). See po-debconf(7). There is also a lintian warning: W: pine source: not-using-po-debconf If you need additional help to do this switch, do not hesitate to ask me or to ask on debian-i18n. Hmm, what if I consider that pine, being a non-free package, does not deserve the same level of support of the other packages in main? Does it deserve a lower level than the minimum expected? [ Do you like word games? ] Some people think non-free does not deserve any support at all. I support pine only partially, so I have added debconf stuff to allow for unattented installs, but that's all. Do you allow me or any other people caring about i18n to do the job for you, either by NMUing the package or by providing full patches? Or should we just stay away from that package? -- Thomas Huriaux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#403803: pine: Please switch to gettext-based debconf templates
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Thomas Huriaux wrote: I support pine only partially, so I have added debconf stuff to allow for unattented installs, but that's all. Do you allow me or any other people caring about i18n to do the job for you, either by NMUing the package or by providing full patches? Or should we just stay away from that package? You should stay away, really. In addition to being non-free, there are two additional reasons why I think this should not be done, as it would be a complete waste of time: a) It is likely that pine will eventually be replaced by alpine (once alpine is mature enough). b) There should be a mta-base package on which packages like this may depend, so that we do not duplicate the same debconf questions about /etc/mailname and /etc/news/server over and over again in every package managing those files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#403803: pine: Please switch to gettext-based debconf templates
Package: pine Version: 4.64-3 Severity: minor Tags: l10n User: debian-i18n@lists.debian.org Usertag: not-using-po-debconf Hi, Please use gettext-based debconf templates to allow translations, as recommended by the developers-reference (section 6.5.2.2). See po-debconf(7). There is also a lintian warning: W: pine source: not-using-po-debconf If you need additional help to do this switch, do not hesitate to ask me or to ask on debian-i18n. Cheers -- Thomas Huriaux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#403803: pine: Please switch to gettext-based debconf templates
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Thomas Huriaux wrote: Package: pine Version: 4.64-3 Severity: minor Tags: l10n User: debian-i18n@lists.debian.org Usertag: not-using-po-debconf Hi, Please use gettext-based debconf templates to allow translations, as recommended by the developers-reference (section 6.5.2.2). See po-debconf(7). There is also a lintian warning: W: pine source: not-using-po-debconf If you need additional help to do this switch, do not hesitate to ask me or to ask on debian-i18n. Hmm, what if I consider that pine, being a non-free package, does not deserve the same level of support of the other packages in main? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#403803: pine: Please switch to gettext-based debconf templates
Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] (19/12/2006): On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Thomas Huriaux wrote: Please use gettext-based debconf templates to allow translations, as recommended by the developers-reference (section 6.5.2.2). See po-debconf(7). There is also a lintian warning: W: pine source: not-using-po-debconf If you need additional help to do this switch, do not hesitate to ask me or to ask on debian-i18n. Hmm, what if I consider that pine, being a non-free package, does not deserve the same level of support of the other packages in main? Does it deserve a lower level than the minimum expected? -- Thomas Huriaux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#403803: pine: Please switch to gettext-based debconf templates
tags 403803 + wontfix thanks On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Thomas Huriaux wrote: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] (19/12/2006): On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Thomas Huriaux wrote: Please use gettext-based debconf templates to allow translations, as recommended by the developers-reference (section 6.5.2.2). See po-debconf(7). There is also a lintian warning: W: pine source: not-using-po-debconf If you need additional help to do this switch, do not hesitate to ask me or to ask on debian-i18n. Hmm, what if I consider that pine, being a non-free package, does not deserve the same level of support of the other packages in main? Does it deserve a lower level than the minimum expected? [ Do you like word games? ] Some people think non-free does not deserve any support at all. I support pine only partially, so I have added debconf stuff to allow for unattented installs, but that's all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
