Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-08-04 Thread Mark Hindley
Ansgar, On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 11:01:53AM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 09:27 +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 10:11:29AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > > > > No, that would be a bad idea since systemd already ships its own, > > > preferred

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-08-03 Thread Ansgar
On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 09:27 +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 10:11:29AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > > No, that would be a bad idea since systemd already ships its own, > > preferred implementation. > > Is there a difference between the built-in and standalone >

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-08-03 Thread Mark Hindley
Michael, Thanks. On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 10:11:29AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > I have an alternative approach that I would be grateful for your thoughts > > and > > opinion on: all packages (systemd included) use the > > systemd-standalone-tmpfiles > > implementation and that is the

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-08-03 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 03.08.22 um 10:06 schrieb Mark Hindley: Ansgar and Michael, On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 09:12:04AM +0200, Ansgar wrote: I assume this is the result of running debootstrap with --include systemd-standalone-tmpfiles? No, I changed the dependencies of one of the involved packages to the one

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-08-03 Thread Mark Hindley
Ansgar and Michael, On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 09:12:04AM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > > I assume this is the result of running debootstrap with --include > > systemd-standalone-tmpfiles? > > No, I changed the dependencies of one of the involved packages to the > one suggested. But it has the same effect

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-08-03 Thread Ansgar
On Wed, 2022-07-27 at 07:14 +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 09:02:09PM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:05:02 +0100 Mark Hindley wrote: > > > It has been suggested that changing the dependency to > > > > > >   systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles > >

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-27 Thread Mark Hindley
Control: close -1 Ansgar, On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 09:02:09PM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:05:02 +0100 Mark Hindley wrote: > > It has been suggested that changing the dependency to > > > >  systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles > > > > would help the packaging system

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-26 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Tue, 2022-07-26 at 10:49 +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: > Luca, > > [Sorry for the slow reply, your response was not sent to me.] > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > Indeed it would be wrong. Also the justification doesn't seem correct: > > simply installing the

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-26 Thread Mark Hindley
Luca, [Sorry for the slow reply, your response was not sent to me.] On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote: > Indeed it would be wrong. Also the justification doesn't seem correct: > simply installing the 'systemd' binary does NOT switch the init system, > so it's

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-25 Thread Ansgar
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 13:05:02 +0100 Mark Hindley wrote: > It has been suggested that changing the dependency to > >  systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles > > would help the packaging system usually find the correct solution and reduce > the > number of unexpected surprises users are

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-25 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 18:11:21 +0100 Mark Hindley wrote: > Michael, > > Thanks for this. > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 04:08:28PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 25.07.22 um 14:05 schrieb Mark Hindley: > > > > > It has been suggested that changing the dependency to > > > > > >  

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-25 Thread Mark Hindley
Michael, On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 04:14:26PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Fwiw, if there is no interest from the sysvinit camp to use the standalone > versions, I'll probably drop them again in one of the next uploads. Judging by the recent bugs on the issue, there is considerable interest

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-25 Thread Mark Hindley
Michael, Thanks for this. On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 04:08:28PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 25.07.22 um 14:05 schrieb Mark Hindley: > > > It has been suggested that changing the dependency to > > > > systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles > > > > would help the packaging system

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-25 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 16:08:28 +0200 Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 25.07.22 um 14:05 schrieb Mark Hindley: > > > It has been suggested that changing the dependency to > > > >   systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles > > > > would help the packaging system usually find the correct solution

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 25.07.22 um 16:08 schrieb Michael Biebl: Am 25.07.22 um 14:05 schrieb Mark Hindley: It has been suggested that changing the dependency to   systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles would help the packaging system usually find the correct solution and reduce the number of

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-25 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 25.07.22 um 14:05 schrieb Mark Hindley: It has been suggested that changing the dependency to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles would help the packaging system usually find the correct solution and reduce the number of unexpected surprises users are reporting. With this

Bug#1016021: debhelper: Please change generated tmpfiles misc:Depends to systemd-standalone-tmpfiles | systemd-tmpfiles

2022-07-25 Thread Mark Hindley
Package: debhelper Version: 13.8 Severity: normal Niels, Currently, debhelper generates systemd | systemd-tmpfiles as the misc:Depends when a tmpfiles implementation is required. However, that is causing significant problems for a number of users of non-systemd systems and in containers when