Bug#1035305: Re: Bug#1035305: Bugs on Debian 12 RC2

2023-05-01 Thread pham...@bluewin.ch 
Hello Cyril,
Apart from what I quoted to you, the installer works correctly.
However, there is another major bug (excluding installation) that I noticed, 
the command lines below do not work with this RC2, they generate a whole series 
of errors:
add-apt-repository "deb https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu 
lunar main" && apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 
0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 && apt update && apt install firefox -y
add-apt-repository "deb https://ppa.launchpad.net/vincent-vandevyvre/vvv/ubuntu 
lunar main" && apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 
7CAA00CD3DCA73E24812D646A5ADEEFF89F92A1A && apt update && apt install qarte -y
I would have been delighted if progress had been made on the other points I 
raised (WPA3 support and boot files installing on the /boot/efi partition of 
Windows and not Debian). But reading you I'm afraid it won't happen in Debian 
12, which I deeply regret ;-(
I am also very surprised that the Nvidia drivers have not been integrated into 
this RC2. This greatly limits the possibility of migrating to this RC2 to 
perform more in-depth tests with machines with only one Nvidia card available.
Best regards and good continuation to you.
This message has been translated from French to English via google translate.
Philippe
Message d'origine
De : k...@debian.org
Date : 30/04/2023 - 16:59 (E)
À : 1035...@bugs.debian.org
Cc : pham...@bluewin.ch
Objet : Re: Bug#1035305: Bugs on Debian 12 RC2
Control: retitle -1 Bugs on Debian 12 RC2
Control: submitter -1 pham...@bluewin.ch
Hi Philippe,
pham...@bluewin.ch 
 (2023-04-29):
> Configure network: [ X]
> 
> - WAP3 support from the installer is required. My Laptop (Dell XPS
> 9520) does not have an RJ-45 connection, it only has Wifi available
> like many machines today. My router is configured in WAP3 only... This
> complicates things a lot during installation.
To reiterate my answer from debian-boot@ earlier[1], we don't support
WPA3 in the installer yet (now tracked via #1035306[2]). Be it within the
installer or outside it, a custom workaround when native connectivity
isn't working (for whatever reason) is using an USB-to-Ethernet adapter.
  1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2023/04/msg00351.html
  2. https://bugs.debian.org/1035306
> - The problem to solve which is present in all intermediate versions
> of Debian is related to sources.list. It lacks the following
> information :
> 
> # Bookworm base repository
> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware
> deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware
> #
> # Bookworm-updates
> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware
> deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware
> # 
> # Security updates
> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main 
> non-free-firmware
> deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main 
> non-free-firmware
> #
> # Proposed-updates (versions intermédiaires)
> # deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-proposed-updates main contrib 
> non-free-firmware
> # deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-proposed-updates main 
> contrib non-free-firmware
I suspect this is a “just” a side-effect of having no network in the
installer (lack of WPA3 and no alternative connectivity); the problem I
was alluding to earlier was the absence of bookworm-updates specifically
(fixed in RC 2), and that's indeed a separate topic.
> - Under Cinnamon if I deactivate the Wifi network via the taskbar, at
> the next boot it is automatically reactivated (installation on an
> external hard drive for testing). After an installation on the
> internal ssd of my laptop, the problem no longer occurs !?
I'll let others comment here, this seems weird to me.
> Install boot loader: [ X]
Dual-/multi-booting isn't my area.
> Overall install: [X ]
> 
> - After testing RC2 on my workstation, I have problems installing
> Nvidia graphics drivers for my RTX 3080. Nvidia detect does not seem
> to be present and Nvidia-drivers refuses to install, it only shows the
> available version n c isn't the right one ??
> 
> - The 'reboot' command does not work in simple user, only in root ;-(
Those are definitely not installer-related topics; the former should
probably be a bug report against one of the nvidia package; the latter
isn't a bug.
Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

Bug#1035305: Bugs on Debian 12 RC2

2023-04-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois 
Control: retitle -1 Bugs on Debian 12 RC2
Control: submitter -1 pham...@bluewin.ch

Hi Philippe,

pham...@bluewin.ch  (2023-04-29):
> Configure network: [ X]
> 
> - WAP3 support from the installer is required. My Laptop (Dell XPS
> 9520) does not have an RJ-45 connection, it only has Wifi available
> like many machines today. My router is configured in WAP3 only... This
> complicates things a lot during installation.

To reiterate my answer from debian-boot@ earlier[1], we don't support
WPA3 in the installer yet (now tracked via #1035306[2]). Be it within the
installer or outside it, a custom workaround when native connectivity
isn't working (for whatever reason) is using an USB-to-Ethernet adapter.

  1. https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2023/04/msg00351.html
  2. https://bugs.debian.org/1035306

> - The problem to solve which is present in all intermediate versions
> of Debian is related to sources.list. It lacks the following
> information :
> 
> # Bookworm base repository
> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware
> deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware
> #
> # Bookworm-updates
> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware
> deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware
> # 
> # Security updates
> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main 
> non-free-firmware
> deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main 
> non-free-firmware
> #
> # Proposed-updates (versions intermédiaires)
> # deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-proposed-updates main contrib 
> non-free-firmware
> # deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-proposed-updates main 
> contrib non-free-firmware

I suspect this is a “just” a side-effect of having no network in the
installer (lack of WPA3 and no alternative connectivity); the problem I
was alluding to earlier was the absence of bookworm-updates specifically
(fixed in RC 2), and that's indeed a separate topic.

> - Under Cinnamon if I deactivate the Wifi network via the taskbar, at
> the next boot it is automatically reactivated (installation on an
> external hard drive for testing). After an installation on the
> internal ssd of my laptop, the problem no longer occurs !?

I'll let others comment here, this seems weird to me.

> Install boot loader: [ X]

Dual-/multi-booting isn't my area.

> Overall install: [X ]
> 
> - After testing RC2 on my workstation, I have problems installing
> Nvidia graphics drivers for my RTX 3080. Nvidia detect does not seem
> to be present and Nvidia-drivers refuses to install, it only shows the
> available version n c isn't the right one ??
> 
> - The 'reboot' command does not work in simple user, only in root ;-(

Those are definitely not installer-related topics; the former should
probably be a bug report against one of the nvidia package; the latter
isn't a bug.


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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Bug#1035305: Bugs on Debian 12 RC2 - Configure network: [ X] - Install boot loader: [ X] - Overall install: [X ]

2023-04-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois 
Package: debian-installer
X-Debbugs-Cc: pham...@bluewin.ch

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pham...@bluewin.ch  (2023-04-29):
> I speak French so it's more complicated for me to communicate in
> English...
> 
> Configure network: [ X]
> 
> - WAP3 support from the installer is required. My Laptop (Dell XPS
> 9520) does not have an RJ-45 connection, it only has Wifi available
> like many machines today. My router is configured in WAP3 only... This
> complicates things a lot during installation.
> 
> - The problem to solve which is present in all intermediate versions
> of Debian is related to sources.list. It lacks the following
> information :
> 
> # Bookworm base repository
> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware
> deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware
> #
> # Bookworm-updates
> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware
> deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main non-free-firmware
> # 
> # Security updates
> deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main 
> non-free-firmware
> deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main 
> non-free-firmware
> #
> # Proposed-updates (versions intermédiaires)
> # deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-proposed-updates main contrib 
> non-free-firmware
> # deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-proposed-updates main 
> contrib non-free-firmware
> 
> Lack of this configuration prevents updates from working as well as
> installing additional software except from the installation media ;-(
> 
> It is likely that some users will drop Debian directly for this sad
> reason, without trying to solve it by hand...
> 
> - Under Cinnamon if I deactivate the Wifi network via the taskbar, at
> the next boot it is automatically reactivated (installation on an
> external hard drive for testing). After an installation on the
> internal ssd of my laptop, the problem no longer occurs !?
> 
> 
> Install boot loader: [ X]
> 
> - In case of dual installation Debian 12 / Windows 11, the Debian
> bootloader does not install on its own hard disk but it squats the
> Windows /boot/efi partition. This does not allow the Debian system to
> boot if a Windows disk crashes or is deleted. Moreover, by default the
> partition /boot/efi of Windows is very small (100 Mo) this poses
> problems of remaining available space... In my case the Windows
> /boot/efi partition was almost full, I had another version of Linux
> installed (Ubuntu 22.10), plus Windows 11, my Laptop's bios update
> system and now Debian 12. As a result, it is no longer possible to
> install another OS without making room and the TRIM function of my SSD
> on this almost full partition is struggling to work...
> 
> Overall install: [X ]
> 
> - After testing RC2 on my workstation, I have problems installing
> Nvidia graphics drivers for my RTX 3080. Nvidia detect does not seem
> to be present and Nvidia-drivers refuses to install, it only shows the
> available version n c isn't the right one ??
> 
> - The 'reboot' command does not work in simple user, only in root ;-(


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org)
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant


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