Bug#499236: aspell-ru: does not recognise flexional word forms any longer
Martin-Éric Racine schrieb: Now that the fixed myspell-tools has been uploaded, we're re-building rus-ispell to produce fresh myspell-ru and aspell-ru packages. They should be available in unstable/sid sometimes during the next couple of days. Johannes, can you please let us know later during the weekend, after the update has been pushed to all Debian mirrors, if this improved the situation? I can do so, if I have it until Tuesday morning. After that, I'll embark on a two weeks business trip to places where I am unlikely to be able to connect my laptop to the internet. However, unless the affix files are empty again, I would be confident that it resolves this issue. BTW, there was another minor annoyance, before this bug occurred: Some time ago aspell started to insist on the use of the letter ё (yo), which is optional in Russian. E.g. it marks отчет (otchót, meaning report) as wrong and insists that I write отчёт. In written standard Russian the dots are usually omitted and used only in case of ambiguity. E.g. всё (pronounced fsyo, meaning all, singular, neuter, nominative) vs. все (pronounced fs'e, meaning all, plural, all genders, nominative). In almost all other cases, е is used instead of ё. Now, when I use an old affix file, of an older version of the .deb, from snapshot.debian.net (which I did, when I noticed that the affix files are empty), е is accepted. The latest functioning version of aspell-ru insists on ё, even though this is not in line with contemporary Russian orthography. Thanks, Johannes -- Johannes Rohr Russia Programme Coordinator IWGIA, Classensgade 11E, 2100 Copenhagen Tel: +45 35 27 05 01, Fax: +49 35 27 05 07 Skype: johannesrohr, http://www.iwgia.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#499236: aspell-ru: does not recognise flexional word forms any longer
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:31 PM, Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin-Éric Racine schrieb: Now that the fixed myspell-tools has been uploaded, we're re-building rus-ispell to produce fresh myspell-ru and aspell-ru packages. They should be available in unstable/sid sometimes during the next couple of days. Johannes, can you please let us know later during the weekend, after the update has been pushed to all Debian mirrors, if this improved the situation? I can do so, if I have it until Tuesday morning. After that, I'll embark on a two weeks business trip to places where I am unlikely to be able to connect my laptop to the internet. It should be available to test now already. BTW, the latest functioning version of aspell-ru insists on ё, even though this is not in line with contemporary Russian orthography. Actually, Ë comes and goes in cycles. During the 90's, there was a resurgence of systematically using it. Now, common practice seems to be reverting to the Soviet approach of completely omitting the umlauts again. Still, I'm curious why aspell would not offer both options, since the source wordlist offers both variants already. -- Martin-Éric Racine http://q-funk.iki.fi
Bug#499236: aspell-ru: does not recognise flexional word forms any longer
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Martin-Éric Racine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a test, could you check documents that you normally work on with Gedit using e.g. Nano or VI in a terminal with irussian? If proof reading works with irussian, then we'll know that the problem is with the tools used to generate myspell-ru (which would also affect aspell-ru). [...] So, something about the build process must be broken. Yes, myspell-tools was broken. A fixed version has been uploaded, but this now means that all packages who Build-Depend on myspell-tools must be rebuilt via bin-NMU. This is a process that requires the intervention of release managers. Now that the fixed myspell-tools has been uploaded, we're re-building rus-ispell to produce fresh myspell-ru and aspell-ru packages. They should be available in unstable/sid sometimes during the next couple of days. Johannes, can you please let us know later during the weekend, after the update has been pushed to all Debian mirrors, if this improved the situation? -- Martin-Éric Racine http://q-funk.iki.fi
Bug#499236: aspell-ru: does not recognise flexional word forms any longer
As a test, could you check documents that you normally work on with Gedit using e.g. Nano or VI in a terminal with irussian? If proof reading works with irussian, then we'll know that the problem is with the tools used to generate myspell-ru (which would also affect aspell-ru). Hi! I examined the contents of the myspell-ru and aspell-ru packages a bit and I found that the russian affix files are (almost) empty. /usr/lib/aspell/ru_affix.dat is empty, except for the lines SET KOI8-R 1 The same is true for /usr/share/myspell/ru_RU.aff, whereas /usr/lib/ispell/russian.aff is just fine. So, something about the build process must be broken. I would be very happy, if this were fixed before the Lenny release, hopefully it will not be that difficult... Thanks, Johannes -- http://www.infoe.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#499236: aspell-ru: does not recognise flexional word forms any longer
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a test, could you check documents that you normally work on with Gedit using e.g. Nano or VI in a terminal with irussian? If proof reading works with irussian, then we'll know that the problem is with the tools used to generate myspell-ru (which would also affect aspell-ru). [...] So, something about the build process must be broken. Yes, myspell-tools was broken. A fixed version has been uploaded, but this now means that all packages who Build-Depend on myspell-tools must be rebuilt via bin-NMU. This is a process that requires the intervention of release managers. -- Martin-Éric Racine http://q-funk.iki.fi
Bug#499236: aspell-ru: does not recognise flexional word forms any longer
Package: aspell-ru Version: 0.99g5-4 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable I'm sorry for submitting a bug of this severity, but it really makes a package unusable that I depend on a lot. Since the last upgrade, the Russian spell checker recognises only the base form of each word. All the flectioned forms are marked as wrong. Who knows Russian or any other Slavic language will quickly understand, that this makes the package unusable. For instance: земля (zemlia, earth) is recognised as correct, whereas земли, (zemli, the genitive case of the same work) is marked as error. I have tested this with gedit, icedove, evolution, openoffice. They are all affected in the same way. So clearly, there is an issue with the package. -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (101, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages aspell-ru depends on: ii aspell0.60.6-1 GNU Aspell spell-checker ii dictionaries-common 0.98.12Common utilities for spelling dict aspell-ru recommends no packages. aspell-ru suggests no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#499236: aspell-ru: does not recognise flexional word forms any longer
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Package: aspell-ru Version: 0.99g5-4 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable I'm sorry for submitting a bug of this severity, but it really makes a package unusable that I depend on a lot. That's a completely excessive severity level. Since the last upgrade, the Russian spell checker recognises only the base form of each word. All the flectioned forms are marked as wrong. Who knows Russian or any other Slavic language will quickly understand, that this makes the package unusable. For instance: земля (zemlia, earth) is recognised as correct, whereas земли, (zemli, the genitive case of the same work) is marked as error. There is no change in how the dictionaries are generated or packaged, so I have to guess that either upstream sources no longer include all declensions or that tools used to generate the myspell and aspell dictionaries from the ispell source have become broken in one way or another. -- Martin-Éric Racine http://q-funk.iki.fi
Bug#499236: aspell-ru: does not recognise flexional word forms any longer
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tested this with gedit, icedove, evolution, openoffice. They are all affected in the same way. So clearly, there is an issue with the package. Btw, icedove (and all Mozilla products) and openoffice use myspell-ru for proof reading. As a test, could you check documents that you normally work on with Gedit using e.g. Nano or VI in a terminal with irussian? If proof reading works with irussian, then we'll know that the problem is with the tools used to generate myspell-ru (which would also affect aspell-ru). -- Martin-Éric Racine http://q-funk.iki.fi
Bug#499236: aspell-ru: does not recognise flexional word forms any longer
Martin-Éric Racine schrieb: Btw, icedove (and all Mozilla products) and openoffice use myspell-ru for proof reading. Yes, but gnome-spell, used by evolution, uses aspell. As a test, could you check documents that you normally work on with Gedit using e.g. Nano or VI in a terminal with irussian? If proof reading works with irussian, then we'll know that the problem is with the tools used to generate myspell-ru (which would also affect aspell-ru). This is probably the case, as ispell -d russian works fine for a file encoded in koi8-ru. Thanks, Johannes -- Johannes Rohr Russia Programme Coordinator IWGIA, Classensgade 11E, 2100 Copenhagen Tel: +45 35 27 05 01, Fax: +49 35 27 05 07 Skype: johannesrohr, http://www.iwgia.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
