Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-03-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi Russ, Le jeudi 27 mars 2014 à 18:47 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : I note that some important aspect of the XDG specification are not included. While it is not necessarily a requirement for policy inclusion, it could be helpful to document the .menu files used by desktop environment

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-03-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert ballo...@debian.org writes: So in the spirit of going forward, I would suggest to restrict ourself to documenting the FreeDesktop files. I join a patch which is essentially Charles patch without the demotion of the Debian menu system. Separate from the question of how to

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-03-24 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 04:53:57PM +0100, Markus Koschany wrote: Hello Charles, On 02.02.2014 14:00, Charles Plessy wrote: [...] I think that the absence of a feature in the Debian Policy is not a good justification for refusing a patch that is not invasive and does not require further

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-03-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:31:59AM +0100, Bill Allombert a écrit : This is just one mail among other in favor of keeping the section about the Debian menu system in the policy document, which have been overlooked. Hello Bill, later in the discussion, in message #345, about the patch that was

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-02-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Feb 02, 2014 at 10:00:17PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: We should assume people's good faith on both sides. Because a counter-argument to yours would be that people will use the presence of the Debian menu in the Debian policy as a justification to file serious bugs on packages and

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-02-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 02:36:35PM +0100, Markus Koschany a écrit : Charles Plessy wrote: [...] I have read a lot of scepticism about the Debian menu in this thread, and no actual support for it. Perhaps I was trying to be too consensual and proposed an over-complicated solution while

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-02-02 Thread Markus Koschany
Hello Charles, On 02.02.2014 14:00, Charles Plessy wrote: [...] I think that the absence of a feature in the Debian Policy is not a good justification for refusing a patch that is not invasive and does not require further attention. We should assume people's good faith on both sides.

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems (was: Re: Bug#707851: Let's remove the Debian menu from the Debian Policy ?)

2014-01-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, there is an ongoing discussion about the documentation of menu systems on the debian-policy mailing list, which led to proposed changes and it was suggested to give them a better coverage. On part of the proposal is about the description of the FreeDesktop menu system and its

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-01-25 Thread Markus Koschany
Charles Plessy wrote: [...] I have read a lot of scepticism about the Debian menu in this thread, and no actual support for it. Perhaps I was trying to be too consensual and proposed an over-complicated solution while it is clear that the FreeDesktop system is superior. Hello Charles, I

Bug#707851: Proposed changes on menu systems

2014-01-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014, Markus Koschany wrote: I wanted to clarify that there are also efforts to support both menu systems and that the majority of games already integrate both. https://wiki.debian.org/Games/JessieReleaseGoal In my opinion the policy should at least mention the Debian menu