Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-04 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 04/09/13 at 12:13 +0900, Norbert Preining wrote: On Mi, 04 Sep 2013, Ben Hutchings wrote: How much do those packages weigh, Norbert? Are TeX transitional packages particularly heavy? In kg? In bit? In work time? I really don't know why you think TeX is exempt from the usual

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-04 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 04 Sep 2013, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: requirements to support clean upgrades between Debian releases. - texlive-lang-danish gets removed (as well as texlive-common and texlive-doc-base), but texlive-lang-european doesn't get installed. Yes, and? Was the dist-upgrade disturbed? We

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 4. September 2013, Norbert Preining wrote: Yes, and? Was the dist-upgrade disturbed? We are talking about normal systems, that is having telxive or texlive-full installed. Not pathological cases of only t-l-d installed. wheezy has: Package: texlive-lang Binary:

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-04 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 04 Sep 2013, Holger Levsen wrote: which other binary packages build by texlive-lang do you consider pathological to use? I considered the installation of one -lang package by itself without actual latex package pathological. Holger, who considers just to build-depend on

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-04 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 04/09/13 at 20:52 +0900, Norbert Preining wrote: On Mi, 04 Sep 2013, Holger Levsen wrote: which other binary packages build by texlive-lang do you consider pathological to use? I considered the installation of one -lang package by itself without actual latex package pathological. OK,

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
clone 709758 -1 reassign -1 src:texlive-lang retitle -1 Transitional packages for going-away texlive-lang-* thanks I'm cloning the original bug report to make a new report for this issue as described by Lucas: Lucas Nussbaum writes (Re: Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was:

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Norbert Preining] On Di, 03 Sep 2013, Peter Samuelson wrote: texlive-lang-european? It doesn't look like it to me (no Breaks or Conflicts), but I haven't actually tried it. conflicts there are, texlive-base conflicts with all the old packages. I misspoke. There is a Conflicts in

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 12:55:46PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Norbert Preining] On Di, 03 Sep 2013, Peter Samuelson wrote: texlive-lang-european? It doesn't look like it to me (no Breaks or Conflicts), but I haven't actually tried it. conflicts there are, texlive-base conflicts

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-04 Thread Norbert Preining
severity 721838 whishlist tags 721838 pending thanks Norbert PREINING, Norbert http://www.preining.info JAIST, Japan TeX Live Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-03 Thread David Prévot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi again, Le 03/09/2013 03:37, Norbert Preining a écrit : On Di, 03 Sep 2013, David Prévot wrote: if you’re in a hurry to see your package reach testing, feel free to provide back the binary packages you removed (via convenient dummy

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-03 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi David, On Di, 03 Sep 2013, David Prévot wrote: I was directly proposing that, instead of silently removing the texlive-lang-danish — and at least texlive-lang-norwegian — binary packages, they could be added back as dummy transitional packages I understood your proposal, of course. Still,

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Norbert Preining] I understood your proposal, of course. Still, since there are no rdepends besides very few (1?) build-depends on these two packages, I consider it a a waste of resources. Sounds like you are saying 'texlive-lang-danish' is only useful as a package dependency - in other

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-03 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 03 Sep 2013, Peter Samuelson wrote: Sounds like you are saying 'texlive-lang-danish' is only useful as a package dependency - in other words, users would never install it explicitly because they want its functionality. Is that correct? This I never said that. The functionality is now

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Samuelson
Sounds like you are saying 'texlive-lang-danish' is only useful as a package dependency - in other words, users would never install it explicitly because they want its functionality. Is that correct? This [Norbert Preining] I never said that. The functionality is now in

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-03 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 03 Sep 2013, Peter Samuelson wrote: texlive-lang-european? It doesn't look like it to me (no Breaks or Conflicts), but I haven't actually tried it. conflicts there are, texlive-base conflicts with all the old packages. TL2013 made big changes to the naming of packages. If I go down the

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 10:57 +0900, Norbert Preining wrote: On Di, 03 Sep 2013, Peter Samuelson wrote: texlive-lang-european? It doesn't look like it to me (no Breaks or Conflicts), but I haven't actually tried it. conflicts there are, texlive-base conflicts with all the old packages.

Bug#709758: Replacing a binary package by another one(was: Communication issue?)

2013-09-03 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mi, 04 Sep 2013, Ben Hutchings wrote: How much do those packages weigh, Norbert? Are TeX transitional packages particularly heavy? In kg? In bit? In work time? I really don't know why you think TeX is exempt from the usual requirements to support clean upgrades between Debian releases.