Bug#794466: Virtualbox backport for Stretch?
Hello, none for now, but there might be a backport-alike debian new repository without restrictions, I might give it a shot soon Il giovedì 26 settembre 2019, 13:36:09 CEST, Michael Prokop ha scritto: Hi! * Gianfranco Costamagna [Fri Aug 23, 2019 at 08:33:09AM +]: > I'm not sure backports team will be happy with this...and the lack of >upstream cooperation is still an issue. [...] I'm trying to understand the current state of this issue. :) * Gianfranco Costamagna [Wed Sep 04, 2019 at 10:20:03AM +]: [...] > I hope before next stable to solve this... Any news here? Do you have any plans how to provide Virtualbox for users of stable/buster? Thanks for your work on the Virtualbox packaging! regards -mika-
Bug#794466: Virtualbox backport for Stretch?
Hi! * Gianfranco Costamagna [Fri Aug 23, 2019 at 08:33:09AM +]: > I'm not sure backports team will be happy with this...and the lack of > upstream cooperation is still an issue. [...] I'm trying to understand the current state of this issue. :) * Gianfranco Costamagna [Wed Sep 04, 2019 at 10:20:03AM +]: [...] > I hope before next stable to solve this... Any news here? Do you have any plans how to provide Virtualbox for users of stable/buster? Thanks for your work on the Virtualbox packaging! regards -mika- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#794466: Virtualbox backport for Stretch?
Hello Roger, >Backports team won't complain if the package is in testing. >And I think release team won't complain now since it's not in freezing stage. > >Lack of upstream support usually means we won't have it in stable. >But if user decide to use backports by their own choice, they should >be able to do that. This looks like a good way of hiding the issue, the problem is that I can't just keep backports up-to-date oncestable is released, because it goes out of testing.I had some chat with ftpmasters and release team, and they both agree on the fact that if the package is not maintainable,letting it migrate is something we shouldn't do... I hope before next stable to solve this... (btw comaintainers are welcome :) ) Gianfranco
Bug#794466: Virtualbox backport for Stretch?
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:33 PM Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > > I'm not sure backports team will be happy with this... > and the lack of upstream cooperation is still an issue. Backports team won't complain if the package is in testing. And I think release team won't complain now since it's not in freezing stage. Lack of upstream support usually means we won't have it in stable. But if user decide to use backports by their own choice, they should be able to do that. Cheers, -- Roger Shimizu, GMT +9 Tokyo PGP/GPG: 4096R/6C6ACD6417B3ACB1
Bug#794466: Virtualbox backport for Stretch?
Il giovedì 22 agosto 2019, 19:56:46 CEST, Roger Shimizu ha scritto: > > Since buster is already released, let's let the package migrate to > testing and upload to backports as before. On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 08:33:09AM +, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > I'm not sure backports team will be happy with this...and the lack of > upstream cooperation is still an issue. Similarly, please remove 5.2.24 from stretch-backports as it wasn't released in buster for the same reason it wasn't released in stretch. Hopefully http://fasttrack.debian.net/ will be officially announced soon and VirtualBox can be uploaded there. -- Phil Morrell (emorrp1) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#794466: Virtualbox backport for Stretch?
I'm not sure backports team will be happy with this...and the lack of upstream cooperation is still an issue. Il giovedì 22 agosto 2019, 19:56:46 CEST, Roger Shimizu ha scritto: control: severity -1 normal Since buster is already released, let's let the package migrate to testing and upload to backports as before. Cheers, Roger
Bug#794466: Virtualbox backport for Stretch?
control: severity -1 normal Since buster is already released, let's let the package migrate to testing and upload to backports as before. Cheers, Roger
Bug#794466: Virtualbox backport for Stretch?
On Fri, 17 May 2019, Harald Dunkel wrote: > AFAIU #794466 seems to be a political issue. Debian wants to provide Nah, it’s an Oracle issue. They did the same with MySQL IIRC, which has nowadays been replaced by MariaDB as this is untenable with the reliability promises Debian gives. > and Oracle wants to support just the most recent versions, introducing That is worded in a way to make the sentence wrong. What they do is not publish security details, so others cannot even support older versions *themselves*, which is proactively harmful. AIUI you get a new release and either take it or not, with no separation of patches. But this is all irrelevant for backports (setting Reply-To appro‐ priately) as n-backports ship whatever is in (n+1) or, if n+1 is not yet released, testing, and n-backports-sloppy ship whatever is in (n+1)-backports, so if anything is “not suitable for a stable release” it is automatically not suitable for backports, either. There has been discussion of a “not-backports” thing that could be the scope for this (codenamed “volatile” although that codename was not well received), but that is also being discussed elsewhere. bye, //mirabilos -- tarent solutions GmbH Rochusstraße 2-4, D-53123 Bonn • http://www.tarent.de/ Tel: +49 228 54881-393 • Fax: +49 228 54881-235 HRB 5168 (AG Bonn) • USt-ID (VAT): DE122264941 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Stefan Barth, Kai Ebenrett, Boris Esser, Alexander Steeg ** Mit der tarent Academy bieten wir auch Trainings und Schulungen in den Bereichen Softwareentwicklung, Agiles Arbeiten und Zukunftstechnologien an. Besuchen Sie uns auf www.tarent.de/academy. Wir freuen uns auf Ihren Kontakt. **
