Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-13 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, 2021-03-09 at 15:22 +0100, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > Hi Osamu, > > On 2021-03-09 14:58, osamu.a...@gmail.com wrote: > > For Japanese, kkc is the only choice gnome-initial-setting offers. > > > > No anthy/no kkc/no skk/ ... > > > > So this is not an option for Japanese. > > So

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-09 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2021-03-09 15:55, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 11:36 PM Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: On 2021-03-09 14:58, osamu.a...@gmail.com wrote: For Japanese, kkc is the only choice gnome-initial-setting offers. No anthy/no kkc/no skk/ ... So this is not an option for Japanese. So

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-09 Thread Shengjing Zhu
Control: clone -1 -2 Control: reassign -2 gnome-initial-setup 3.38.4-1 Control: retitle -2 choice of Japanese input methods is not useful Control: severity -2 important Let's at least make gnome-initial-setup maintainer aware of this chaos. On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 10:56 PM YOSHINO Yoshihito

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-09 Thread YOSHINO Yoshihito
Hi, On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 1:19 AM Shengjing Zhu wrote: > Back to this issue only(ibus doesn't have a working default). I find > task-korean-gnome-desktop Recommends gnome-initial-setup, > And above the Recommends, it has a comment that says: > > > GNOME doesn't set the working Korean IM by

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-09 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Hi Osamu, On 2021-03-09 14:58, osamu.a...@gmail.com wrote: For Japanese, kkc is the only choice gnome-initial-setting offers. No anthy/no kkc/no skk/ ... So this is not an option for Japanese. So annoying. :( But maybe gnome-initial-setup can be patched to bypass whatever whitelist or

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-09 Thread osamu . aoki
Hi, For Japanese, kkc is the only choice gnome-initial-setting offers. No anthy/no kkc/no skk/ ... So this is not an option for Japanese. (Probably good for Korean) On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 18:41 +0100, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > On 2021-03-08 17:19, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-08 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2021-03-08 17:19, Shengjing Zhu wrote: Hi, On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 11:12 PM YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: Package: ibus-anthy Version: 1.5.11-2 Severity: important Tags: patch Dear Maintainer, On the GNOME desktop, manual set-up in GNOME Settings is required in order to make ibus-anthy to

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-08 Thread Shengjing Zhu
Hi, On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 11:12 PM YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: > > Package: ibus-anthy > Version: 1.5.11-2 > Severity: important > Tags: patch > > Dear Maintainer, > > On the GNOME desktop, manual set-up in GNOME Settings is required > in order to make ibus-anthy to work. > > I have prepared an

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-05 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2021-03-05 16:18, Osamu Aoki wrote: On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 11:43 +0100, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: GNOME favors IBus. That's hard to change. im-config also favors IBus. How about letting im-config fall back to IBus instead? I was a bit lost what exactly was discussed. As I re-read this bug

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 11:43 +0100, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > On 2021-03-04 04:54, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > What we need now is not the intrusive old fcitx approach but still > > a > > clean patch to GNOME to make default IM setting code configurable > > via Gsetting etc without hook scripts.

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-04 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2021-03-04 04:54, Osamu Aoki wrote: What we need now is not the intrusive old fcitx approach but still a clean patch to GNOME to make default IM setting code configurable via Gsetting etc without hook scripts. if uim or fcitx wants to be made usable robustly. Then im-config can access it to

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, Let me recall my memory On Tue, 2021-03-02 at 13:02 +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > > On 2021-03-01 15:25, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > > > I'm not a GNOME user. But reading this, I feel it's seriously > > > broken. > > > GNOME shouldn't take over the responsibility of tasksel to decide > > >

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-01 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2021-03-02 06:02, Shengjing Zhu wrote: It's totally fine that GNOME only works with IBus. And there's no blame for upstream for their choice. But in Debian, it's a system, not just GNOME. When GNOME packager changes its packaging relations, they should also work with other teams, like

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-01 Thread Shengjing Zhu
> On 2021-03-01 15:25, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > > I'm not a GNOME user. But reading this, I feel it's seriously broken. > > GNOME shouldn't take over the responsibility of tasksel to decide > > what the IM engine to use. > > Japanese GNOME desktop users should continue to use uim if it's > >

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-01 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2021-03-01 13:32, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: So once ibus is installed on the GNOME desktop for some reason, ibus is always preferred by default. On the GNOME desktop, "non-ibus IM framework is installed and used by default, switch to ibus if you want it" is no longer possible. I wrote "breaks"

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-01 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 1:15 PM YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 3:32 AM Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > > > > On 2021-02-28 16:05, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: > > > On the GNOME desktop, manual set-up in GNOME Settings is required > > > in order to make ibus-anthy to work. >

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-03-01 Thread YOSHINO Yoshihito
Hi, On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 5:56 PM Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > In you write: > > > This is caused by the change in the gnome-shell package (Bug#815050) > > to add "Recommends: ibus", which breaks any non-ibus input method > > framework (Bug#941624), What I am

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-02-28 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
But wait now... In you write: This is caused by the change in the gnome-shell package (Bug#815050) to add "Recommends: ibus", which breaks any non-ibus input method framework (Bug#941624), As far as I understand that is not correct, at least not any longer.

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-02-28 Thread YOSHINO Yoshihito
Hi, On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 3:32 AM Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > > On 2021-02-28 16:05, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: > > On the GNOME desktop, manual set-up in GNOME Settings is required > > in order to make ibus-anthy to work. > > Right. But does that differ in any way from other IBus input methods?

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-02-28 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
On 2021-02-28 16:05, YOSHINO Yoshihito wrote: On the GNOME desktop, manual set-up in GNOME Settings is required in order to make ibus-anthy to work. Right. But does that differ in any way from other IBus input methods? -- Rgds, Gunnar Hjalmarsson https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-02-28 Thread Boyuan Yang
在 2021-03-01星期一的 00:19 +0900,YOSHINO Yoshihito写道: > Package: ibus-anthy > Followup-For: Bug #983695 > > Dear Maintainer, > > I have created a merge request on salsa at > https://salsa.debian.org/input-method-team/ibus-anthy/-/merge_requests/2 > > Thanks in advance, This patch looks suboptimal

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-02-28 Thread YOSHINO Yoshihito
Package: ibus-anthy Followup-For: Bug #983695 Dear Maintainer, I have created a merge request on salsa at https://salsa.debian.org/input-method-team/ibus-anthy/-/merge_requests/2 Thanks in advance, -- YOSHINO Yoshihito

Bug#983695: ibus-anthy: does not work out of the box on the GNOME desktop

2021-02-28 Thread YOSHINO Yoshihito
Package: ibus-anthy Version: 1.5.11-2 Severity: important Tags: patch Dear Maintainer, On the GNOME desktop, manual set-up in GNOME Settings is required in order to make ibus-anthy to work. I have prepared an XDG Autostart .desktop file which should be installed to