Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2007-03-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hoi Andreas,

sorry for the late answer.

Am Mo den  2. Okt 2006 um 18:39 schrieb Andreas Tille:
 ln -sf /usr/share/games/fortunes-de/${j}.dat 
 /usr/share/games/fortunes/de/${j}.dat
[...]
 I have to admit that I fail to see the bug in fortunes-de.  If you
 install a local package with diversions so it is your job to care
 for all files and links to be diverted.  If the postinst installs
 the symlinks in the package you probably have to do the diversion
 of the symlinks.

True for the first but false for the second. It is impossible to divert
symlinks (or other stuff) which is hardcoded in the postinst. If the
symlink is in the package itself this is no problem.

 The package installs files and sets symlinks in the postinst.
 What do you think should I do differently to help you.
 bug.  If it *is* a bug, then I will fix it but *what* is the bug.

Put the symlinks into the package or test for diversions in postinst
before you make the concrete symlink.

 have shown you that you can simply delete a single file
 data/zitate/paul

Oh. Fine. ;-)

Gruß
   Klaus
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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2007-03-06 Thread Andreas Tille

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Klaus Ethgen wrote:


sorry for the late answer.


No problem.


True for the first but false for the second. It is impossible to divert
symlinks (or other stuff) which is hardcoded in the postinst. If the
symlink is in the package itself this is no problem.


Well, the symlink can not be in the package because it is decided via
debconf which symlink should be set and which not.


Put the symlinks into the package or test for diversions in postinst
before you make the concrete symlink.


Hmmm, checking for diversions in postinst??? I do not think that
this is the usual way to do.


have shown you that you can simply delete a single file
data/zitate/paul


Oh. Fine. ;-)


So I think your original problem should be solved when you read this
hint, right?

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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2007-03-06 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hi Andreas,

Am Di den  6. Mär 2007 um 15:54 schrieb Andreas Tille:
 Well, the symlink can not be in the package because it is decided via
 debconf which symlink should be set and which not.

I see.

 Hmmm, checking for diversions in postinst??? I do not think that
 this is the usual way to do.

Hmm. It would be a bad hack. But isn't there a other way?

 have shown you that you can simply delete a single file
 data/zitate/paul
 
 Oh. Fine. ;-)
 
 So I think your original problem should be solved when you read this
 hint, right?

I didn't test as I HAVE a diversion. :-)

There is just many Jean Paul messages inside of the zitate file. I
don't want to build a new package which I have to update every time there
is a update in the archive. I just know about that it IS necessary to
handle the link.

Gruß
   Klaus
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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2007-03-06 Thread Andreas Tille

On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Klaus Ethgen wrote:


Hmmm, checking for diversions in postinst??? I do not think that
this is the usual way to do.


Hmm. It would be a bad hack. But isn't there a other way?


Well, IMHO your diversion is not done the right way.  You have
not to divert the symlink but the real file.


There is just many Jean Paul messages inside of the zitate file. I
don't want to build a new package which I have to update every time there
is a update in the archive. I just know about that it IS necessary to
handle the link.


As I said divert the real file, not the symlink

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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2006-10-02 Thread Klaus Ethgen
Hi Andreas,

Am So den  1. Okt 2006 um 23:07 schrieb Andreas Tille:
 Can you please elaborate more on this diversion problem? I do not

~ dpkg-divert --list | grep fortunes
local diversion of /usr/share/games/fortunes/de/zitate to 
/usr/share/games/fortunes/de/zitate.distrib
local diversion of /usr/share/games/fortunes/de/zitate.dat to 
/usr/share/games/fortunes/de/zitate.dat.distrib

And in the postinst-file I find:
...
ln -sf /usr/share/games/fortunes-de/${j}.dat 
/usr/share/games/fortunes/de/${j}.dat
...

So the diversion for the text file work but the one for the dat file is
ignored.

 understand whether I should change something in fortunes-de, to
 circumvent this, reassign the bug to dpkg-divert or whether your local
 diversion is just broken (and we could close the bug).

See above. It is no dpkg-divert bug, its a (small) bug of the
fortunes-de package and doing a way around dpkg.

 BTW, to the Jean Paul quotes: Yes, you are right they are 50% rubish
 (at least) and I would definitely accept patches to the data files
 that remove this rubish or would you think it might make sense to

I put a small script in the attachment to remove them. ;-)

 handle the Jean Paul quotes with a separate debconf question (off by
 default)?  I'm very interested in your input.

Therefor I have to answer in German: Wäre eine gute Idee, falls
irgendjemand in den geistigen Ergüssen dieser Person interessiert sein
sollte. ;-)

Gruß
   Klaus
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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2006-10-02 Thread Andreas Tille

On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Klaus Ethgen wrote:


~ dpkg-divert --list | grep fortunes
local diversion of /usr/share/games/fortunes/de/zitate to 
/usr/share/games/fortunes/de/zitate.distrib
local diversion of /usr/share/games/fortunes/de/zitate.dat to 
/usr/share/games/fortunes/de/zitate.dat.distrib

And in the postinst-file I find:
...
ln -sf /usr/share/games/fortunes-de/${j}.dat 
/usr/share/games/fortunes/de/${j}.dat
...

So the diversion for the text file work but the one for the dat file is
ignored.


I have to admit that I fail to see the bug in fortunes-de.  If you
install a local package with diversions so it is your job to care
for all files and links to be diverted.  If the postinst installs
the symlinks in the package you probably have to do the diversion
of the symlinks.


understand whether I should change something in fortunes-de, to
circumvent this, reassign the bug to dpkg-divert or whether your local
diversion is just broken (and we could close the bug).


See above. It is no dpkg-divert bug, its a (small) bug of the
fortunes-de package and doing a way around dpkg.


Well, I do not want to evaluate whether it is a small or a big
bug.  If it *is* a bug, then I will fix it but *what* is the bug.
The package installs files and sets symlinks in the postinst.
What do you think should I do differently to help you.


BTW, to the Jean Paul quotes: Yes, you are right they are 50% rubish
(at least) and I would definitely accept patches to the data files
that remove this rubish or would you think it might make sense to


I put a small script in the attachment to remove them. ;-)


Thanks for this script but a quick view into the source would
have shown you that you can simply delete a single file
data/zitate/paul

Kind regards

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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2006-10-01 Thread Andreas Tille

On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Klaus Ethgen wrote:


I did. And it gave strange behavior:
Some fortunes with umlauts gets printed correct some not.
Sample:


This all sounds really strange.  I fail to see a system in this: :-(
I have to admit that I have one box where I can reproduce #316953
if I use xterm (no other Terminal emulator on the same box shows
this problem which is really strange and not reproducible on any
other box running the same package all out of testing) but the
problem you reported here is not reproducible at all.


If I use the version with -m ALL works.


Even more strange.  Bug #316953 is at least consistent to -m
option and does not print the Umlauts either.


Sure but I have no other etch-box. All other is sid or sarge.


Perhaps you could try it anyway and we might learn something new.


This machine does not seem to be a machine set up with Etch installer.


Well, no, it was allways upgraded from older machines. And yes, I do
never ever use the debian kernel as I do compile it by myself. And for
stable machines I need a stable kernel, no developement version 2.6.x!


Well, the kernel is definitely no issue in this problem - it's just
the reason I based my suspection on that it was a continuosely upgrade
machine (as well as my problematic machine.  The reason why I asked
is that we have to look for any locale upgrade probleme anywhere
between Sarge and Etch if we want tp track down this problem.


That might be possible. But then there is also a bug (maybe on another
place.)


My guess is that there is a bug *only* at another place.  There is no
reason why the problem you reported should happyn only on *one* machine.
The fortune database is that simple that there is hardly room for
producing these errors.  Ahh, BTW, could you please try the French
fortunes-fr again on this machine.  You reported that #316953 did not
showed up for fortunes-fr.  What happens now?


Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15)


Well, I live in swizerland and when I lifed in germany years ago there
was no [EMAIL PROTECTED]. ;-)

:)

Kind regards and thanks for your pateience

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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2006-10-01 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hoi Andreas,

I think I found the Bug. It seems that with symlinks, dpkg-divert will
not work properly.

I have local diverted zitate and zitate.dat to remove all the Jean
Paul-zitats. However for the zitate file the diversion works. For the
symlink it dont.

To the bug itself. -m seems to do a simple grep in the text file itself.
Without the index is used.

So the severity can be lowered to normal for me. A solution is just play
attent for the diversions.

Gruß
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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2006-10-01 Thread Andreas Tille

On Sun, 1 Oct 2006, Klaus Ethgen wrote:


I think I found the Bug. It seems that with symlinks, dpkg-divert will
not work properly.

I have local diverted zitate and zitate.dat to remove all the Jean
Paul-zitats. However for the zitate file the diversion works. For the
symlink it dont.


Can you please elaborate more on this diversion problem? I do not
understand whether I should change something in fortunes-de, to
circumvent this, reassign the bug to dpkg-divert or whether your local
diversion is just broken (and we could close the bug).

BTW, to the Jean Paul quotes: Yes, you are right they are 50% rubish
(at least) and I would definitely accept patches to the data files
that remove this rubish or would you think it might make sense to
handle the Jean Paul quotes with a separate debconf question (off by
default)?  I'm very interested in your input.


So the severity can be lowered to normal for me. A solution is just play
attent for the diversions.


IMHO the package is perfectly conform to policy and should work
with diversions nicely.

Kind regards

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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2006-09-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Hallo Andreas,

Am Fr den 29. Sep 2006 um 11:24 schrieb Andreas Tille:
 I have the strange feeling that this is the very same problem as
 you reported as #316953 but it shows up differently.  You reported
 that the French fortunes would print nicely (fortunes-fr) and
 thus my idea was to do the same things as the French people
 did (and took over the nice debconf selection which is a nice
 add in functionality).

Might be...

 I would like you to try some more fortunes until you find
 one without any Umlaut.  If I seek for you example

I did. And it gave strange behavior:
Some fortunes with umlauts gets printed correct some not.
Sample:

~ fortune de
Das wäre dann so eine Art Negativ-Steuer.
-- Thomas Uwe Grüttmüller
~ fortune de
lleicht muß man die Liebe gefühlt haben, um die Freundschaft
richtig zu erkennen.
-- Nicolas Sébastien de Chamfort
~ fortune 
Kommt der Gockel unter'n Trecker, gibt es morgens keinen Wecker.
~ fortune 
Wie kann man junge Pflanzen von Unkraut unterscheiden? Man reißt alles aus.
Was wiederkommt ist Unkraut.
~ fortune 
~ fortune 
hrige die
Siebzigjährige.
-- Oliver Hassencamp

If I use the version with -m ALL works.

 Definitely not.  The files that are seeked by fortune are in
 /usr/share/games/fortunes/de  that contains symlinks to the place
 you mentioned.  The symlinks are set according to the debconf selection.

Ah, ok.

 It is the same for you?  My guess is that this is a bug in reportbug
 and I will verify this by replacing any Umlaut in the DebConf template
 if you commit that you observed the same.

I'ts the same and I just add a note to the bugreport #386659.

 Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
 
 Is this shell known to show encoding problems? (Can you verify the
 problem with bash?)

The bug also happens with bash as /bin/sh.

 Kernel: Linux 2.4.32
 
 Could you test fortunes-de on a different box?

Sure but I have no other etch-box. All other is sid or sarge.

 This machine does not seem to be a machine set up with Etch installer.

Well, no, it was allways upgraded from older machines. And yes, I do
never ever use the debian kernel as I do compile it by myself. And for
stable machines I need a stable kernel, no developement version 2.6.x!

 Is it possible that over several updates something in the encoding
 settings became brocken.  I observed similar things when I used a box
 that was updated from Woody to Sarge and now to Etch.  It would
 be great if you could test this on a freshly installed machine.  My
 suspection is that not fortunes-de is brocken itself but some
 encoding settings.

That might be possible. But then there is also a bug (maybe on another
place.)

 Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15)

Well, I live in swizerland and when I lifed in germany years ago there
was no [EMAIL PROTECTED]. ;-)

Gruß
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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2006-09-29 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Package: fortunes-de
Version: 0.21-1
Severity: important

Since the last upgrade I get only uncomplete fortunes like:

 nde einer Schnapsidee.
-- Hans-Horst Skupy

If I look to /usr/share/games/fortunes-de I do not see the fortunes
anymore just only the .dat-Index-Files. Maybe that is the problem?

By the way, the debconfig-selection is making reportbug crash if I
include it in the bugreport.

- -- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (700, 'testing'), (600, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (60, 
'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Kernel: Linux 2.4.32
Locale: LANG=de_DE, LC_CTYPE=de_DE (charmap=ISO-8859-1) (ignored: LC_ALL set to 
de_DE)

Versions of packages fortunes-de depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.4  Debian configuration management sy
ii  fortune-mod   1:1.99.1-3 provides fortune cookies on demand

fortunes-de recommends no packages.

- -- debconf information excluded

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Bug#390108: With the actual version only uncomplete fortunes are printed

2006-09-29 Thread Andreas Tille

On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Klaus Ethgen wrote:


Package: fortunes-de
Version: 0.21-1
Severity: important

Since the last upgrade I get only uncomplete fortunes like:

nde einer Schnapsidee.
   -- Hans-Horst Skupy


I have the strange feeling that this is the very same problem as
you reported as #316953 but it shows up differently.  You reported
that the French fortunes would print nicely (fortunes-fr) and
thus my idea was to do the same things as the French people
did (and took over the nice debconf selection which is a nice
add in functionality).

I would like you to try some more fortunes until you find
one without any Umlaut.  If I seek for you example

$ fortune -m nde einer Schnapsidee.
(zitate)
%
Entwöhnungskur: Ende einer Schnapsidee.
-- Hans-Horst Skupy
%

I see that there is an Umlaut in this cookie.  I tried some time
(using the regeln script which potentially prints short cookies)
and found

$ fortune -m Liegt der Bauer in dem Miste, hat er einen in der Kiste.
(regeln)
%
Liegt der Bauer in dem Miste, hat er einen in der Kiste.
%

Please try a little bit more if we could sort out whether it is
connected to an encoding problem.


If I look to /usr/share/games/fortunes-de I do not see the fortunes
anymore just only the .dat-Index-Files. Maybe that is the problem?


Definitely not.  The files that are seeked by fortune are in
/usr/share/games/fortunes/de  that contains symlinks to the place
you mentioned.  The symlinks are set according to the debconf selection.


By the way, the debconfig-selection is making reportbug crash if I
include it in the bugreport.


I tried this myself and got:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/reportbug, line 1745, in ?
main()
  File /usr/bin/reportbug, line 778, in main
return iface.user_interface()
  File /usr/bin/reportbug, line 1643, in user_interface
klass, subject, tags, body, mode, pseudos)
  File /usr/share/reportbug/reportbug.py, line 724, in generate_blank_report
return %s%s%s
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xf6 in position 202: 
ordinal not in range(128)

It is the same for you?  My guess is that this is a bug in reportbug
and I will verify this by replacing any Umlaut in the DebConf template
if you commit that you observed the same.



Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash


Is this shell known to show encoding problems? (Can you verify the
problem with bash?)


Kernel: Linux 2.4.32


Could you test fortunes-de on a different box?
This machine does not seem to be a machine set up with Etch installer.
Is it possible that over several updates something in the encoding
settings became brocken.  I observed similar things when I used a box
that was updated from Woody to Sarge and now to Etch.  It would
be great if you could test this on a freshly installed machine.  My
suspection is that not fortunes-de is brocken itself but some
encoding settings.


Locale: LANG=de_DE, LC_CTYPE=de_DE (charmap=ISO-8859-1) (ignored: LC_ALL set to 
de_DE)


I have

Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15)

and it works perfectly.


Versions of packages fortunes-de depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.4  Debian configuration management sy
ii  fortune-mod   1:1.99.1-3 provides fortune cookies on demand


Same for me.

Thanks for your bug report.  It would be nice if you could provide
more info.

Kind regards

 Andreas.

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