Bug#418998: fontconfig-config: for korean font, Baekmuk is obsolete

2007-04-14 Thread Changwoo Ryu
2007-04-13 (금), 16:50 +0200, Christian Perrier 쓰시길:
 Quoting trand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  Package: fontconfig-config
  Version: 2.4.2-1.2
  Severity: wishlist
  Tags: l10n
  
  For korean font, ttf-baekmuk is almost dead.
  development is stop, people don't use it.

 Please note that I am not the fontconfig maintainer. I just happen to
 be subscribed to the package's PTS and saw your bug report.
 
 As you suggest this, it seems to me that D-I should probably stop
 installing ttf-baekmuk when the installation language is Korean.
 
 The korean-desktop task currently installs:
 
 Packages-list:
  imhangul
  nabi
  ttf-unfonts
  imhangul-status-applet
  iceweasel-l10n-ko
  xfonts-baekmuk
  ttf-baekmuk
  openoffice.org-help-ko
  openoffice.org-l10n-ko
  kde-i18n-ko
 
 
 So, ttf-unfonts are already installed and, if this is what you
 suggest, we could remove ttf-baekmuk.

 What about xfonts-baekmuk? Should they be dropped from there also?

It depends on what our default desktop looks like.

While ttf-unfonts is a much better choice in antialiased environment
(GNOME/KDE) or for printing, it's almost unusable in non-antialiased
environment (ie. traditional X apps). That's why baekmuk is used in
bf-utf-source, while ttf-unfonts is used for G-I. If we can just ignore
such traditional apps in the default desktop installation, it's ok to
drop ttf-baekmuk and xfonts-baekmuk.


-- 
Changwoo Ryu [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Bug#418998: fontconfig-config: for korean font, Baekmuk is obsolete

2007-04-14 Thread Christian Perrier

 It depends on what our default desktop looks like.
 
 While ttf-unfonts is a much better choice in antialiased environment
 (GNOME/KDE) or for printing, it's almost unusable in non-antialiased
 environment (ie. traditional X apps). That's why baekmuk is used in
 bf-utf-source, while ttf-unfonts is used for G-I. If we can just ignore
 such traditional apps in the default desktop installation, it's ok to
 drop ttf-baekmuk and xfonts-baekmuk.


I think it's clear, thanks for your answer.

Based on Changwoo's answer, I suggest we keep baekmuk in
korean-desktop. There are enough traditionnal X apps to make this
package still useful enough for Korean-speaking users.






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Bug#418998: fontconfig-config: for korean font, Baekmuk is obsolete

2007-04-13 Thread trand

Package: fontconfig-config
Version: 2.4.2-1.2
Severity: wishlist
Tags: l10n

For korean font, ttf-baekmuk is almost dead.
development is stop, people don't use it.

I ask Baekmuk to be replaced with Unfont(ttf-unfonts)

in /etc/fonts/conf.avail/65-nonlatin.conf, 13 line :

Baekmuk Batang to UnBatang

and 25, 35 line :

Baekmuk Dotum to UnDotum

Unfont is major nowadays. Ubuntu, OpenSuse, Fedora also
install ttf-unfonts default.

and 20-fix-globaladvance.conf, it's for only Gulim.ttc  Batang.ttc.
it's MS korean font, not GPL.

This scheme is from language-selector-common Ubuntu package :

match target=font
test name=lang compare=contains
stringko/string
/test
test name=spacing compare=eq
constdual/const
/test
edit name=spacing
constproportional/const
/edit
edit name=globaladvance binding=strong
boolfalse/bool
/edit
/match
match target=font
test name=lang compare=contains
stringko/string
/test
test name=outline compare=eq
boolfalse/bool
/test
test name=spacing compare=eq
constmono/const
constcharcell/const
/test
edit name=spacing
constproportional/const
/edit
edit name=globaladvance binding=strong
boolfalse/bool
/edit
/match

I think it's more suitable. I'd attach a Ubuntu fontconfig file
related ko_KR font.
it would be helpful to adjust Debian nolatin.conf file.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
 APT prefers unstable
 APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4f-smp (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=ko_KR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
(ignored: LC_ALL set to ko_KR.UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages fontconfig-config depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.13 Debian configuration management sy
ii  gsfonts-x11   0.20   Make Ghostscript fonts available t
ii  msttcorefonts 1.8Installer for Microsoft TrueType c
ii  ttf-bitstream-vera1.10-7 The Bitstream Vera family of free
ii  ttf-dejavu2.15-1 Vera font family derivate with add
ii  ttf-freefont  20060501cvs-10 Freefont Serif, Sans and Mono True
ii  ucf   2.0020 Update Configuration File: preserv

fontconfig-config recommends no packages.

-- debconf information:
* fontconfig/subpixel_rendering: Automatic
* fontconfig/enable_bitmaps: false
* fontconfig/hinting_type: Autohinter


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Bug#418998: fontconfig-config: for korean font, Baekmuk is obsolete

2007-04-13 Thread Christian Perrier
merge 418998 418999
thanks

Quoting trand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Package: fontconfig-config
 Version: 2.4.2-1.2
 Severity: wishlist
 Tags: l10n
 
 For korean font, ttf-baekmuk is almost dead.
 development is stop, people don't use it.


Please note that I am not the fontconfig maintainer. I just happen to
be subscribed to the package's PTS and saw your bug report.

As you suggest this, it seems to me that D-I should probably stop
installing ttf-baekmuk when the installation language is Korean.

The korean-desktop task currently installs:

Packages-list:
 imhangul
 nabi
 ttf-unfonts
 imhangul-status-applet
 iceweasel-l10n-ko
 xfonts-baekmuk
 ttf-baekmuk
 openoffice.org-help-ko
 openoffice.org-l10n-ko
 kde-i18n-ko


So, ttf-unfonts are already installed and, if this is what you
suggest, we could remove ttf-baekmuk.

What about xfonts-baekmuk? Should they be dropped from there also?

Asking for an advice to debian-l10n-korean about thisChangwoo,
Sunjae, others, please comment...



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