Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-12-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
control: tags -1 wontfix On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 12:10:07PM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: > 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > > > > OK, now all you need to do is add to the FAQ: Sigh ... > > Q: Do the oldmail files just grow and grow? > > Not only is that not a Frequently Asked Question, it is a Neve

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-08 Thread Charles Cazabon
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > > OK, now all you need to do is add to the FAQ: > > Q: Do the oldmail files just grow and grow? Not only is that not a Frequently Asked Question, it is a Never Asked Question. When I get users asking me this, I'll worry about it. Charles -- -

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-08 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
> "CC" == Charles Cazabon writes: CC> getmail doesn't remove them /immediately/. It waits 30 days or so Ah!, confirmed with: for i in `ls -S ~/.getmail/oldmail*|sed q`; do perl -F\\0 -anwle 'print $F[1]' $i|sort -n|sed q|LC_ALL=C xargs -i date -d @{} done OK, now all you need to do is

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-08 Thread Charles Cazabon
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > > "CC" == Charles Cazabon writes: > > getmail will remove entries from them that it knows are no longer needed > > That is great to know! However [...] > all say "deleted", but in the oldmail file one still sees [them] getmail doesn't remove them /immediately/. It

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-08 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
> "CC" == Charles Cazabon writes: CC> getmail will remove entries from them that it knows are no longer needed That is great to know! However 2017-08-08 20:37:20 msg 1/34 (3122 bytes) msgid 1243652154/79861 from delivered to MDA_external command procmail (), deleted 2017-08-08 20:37:21 msg

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-08 Thread Charles Cazabon
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > I don't plan to backup my oldmail files at all. If you don't mind getmail re-retrieving all your old mail after you lose them, then that's fine. Otherwise, you need to back them up. > And having the user restore a days old stale oldmail file from backups > would perhap

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-08 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
Like one has different backup procedures for /etc vs. /var, I don't plan to backup my oldmail files at all. And having the user restore a days old stale oldmail file from backups would perhaps be worse than no oldmail file at all. http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq says Do NOT delet

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-07 Thread Charles Cazabon
Correction: Charles Cazabon wrote: > You can remove all the messages you want from your destination maildirs or > mbox files with affecting getmail, [...] That's a typo. I meant "without affecting getmail". Charles -- -- Charles

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-07 Thread Charles Cazabon
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > What if my house burned down and I must start from scratch? > Mention how to continue if those files are lost. You have two choices. 1. Restore the files from your backups. You do take regular backups, right? You know the saying "Files you don't have backed up are file

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-07 Thread Charles Cazabon
Osamu Aoki wrote: > "CC" == Charles Cazabon writes: > > > > In short: no, you can never safely trim them. You can remove them only if > > you never want to retrieve mail from the corresponding POP/IMAP account or > > folder again. The files are absolutely tiny by any modern standard, so > > th

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-06 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 11:46:03AM +0800, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > What if my house burned down and I must start from scratch? > Mention how to continue if those files are lost. > > I assume if one really wanted to get rid of them, a safe way would be > 0. Disconnect the upstream mail server

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-06 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
What if my house burned down and I must start from scratch? Mention how to continue if those files are lost. I assume if one really wanted to get rid of them, a safe way would be 0. Disconnect the upstream mail server from the internet so no new mail is coming in. 1. get all your mail upstream ->

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-06 Thread Charles Cazabon
Dan Jacobson wrote: > X-Debbugs-Cc: charlesc-getmail-b...@pyropus.ca > Package: getmail4 > Version: 4.53.0-1 > Severity: wishlist > > The only place oldmail files are mentioned is > file:///usr/share/doc/getmail4/faq.html#faq-about-upgrade > > Please add another FAQ: "Do the oldmail files just g

Bug#871228: Add FAQ: do the oldmail files just grow and grow?

2017-08-06 Thread Dan Jacobson
X-Debbugs-Cc: charlesc-getmail-b...@pyropus.ca Package: getmail4 Version: 4.53.0-1 Severity: wishlist The only place oldmail files are mentioned is file:///usr/share/doc/getmail4/faq.html#faq-about-upgrade Please add another FAQ: "Do the oldmail files just grow and grow? When can I safely trim/r