Bug#895478: gnome-screensaver: package Description should mention that it is not part of GNOME 3

2018-12-25 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 7:24 PM Justin B Rye  wrote:
> Simon McVittie wrote:
> > Here is an attempt at a more current description:
> >
> >  Screensaver and screen lock formerly used in GNOME
> >
> >  gnome-screensaver is a simple screen saver and screen lock, used in older
> >  versions of the GNOME desktop environment.
> >  .
> >  It is designed to support, among other things:
> >  .
> >   * the ability to lock down configuration settings
> >   * translation into other languages
> >   * user switching
> >  .
> >  This package is not necessary in the GNOME desktop environment, because
> >  GNOME Shell contains its own screen lock implementation. It is
> >  used by lighter-weight desktop environments such as GNOME Flashback.
>
> For me (and most of the people I see considering this question on the
> net) that has to be "more lightweight", not "lighter-weight"...

Thanks. I ended up using "alternative" instead of "lighter-weight". I
believe Debian's Budgie currently uses gnome-screensaver too, which
may or may not be lighter weight depending on your perspective.

> And is it a matter of "It is used" or "It can be used"?

Oh, I missed this comment but I at least made the change in git for Bullseye.

Thanks,
Jeremy Bicha



Bug#895478: gnome-screensaver: package Description should mention that it is not part of GNOME 3

2018-04-11 Thread Justin B Rye
Simon McVittie wrote:
> Here is an attempt at a more current description:
> 
>  Screensaver and screen lock formerly used in GNOME
> 
>  gnome-screensaver is a simple screen saver and screen lock, used in older
>  versions of the GNOME desktop environment.
>  .
>  It is designed to support, among other things:
>  .
>   * the ability to lock down configuration settings
>   * translation into other languages
>   * user switching
>  .
>  This package is not necessary in the GNOME desktop environment, because
>  GNOME Shell contains its own screen lock implementation. It is
>  used by lighter-weight desktop environments such as GNOME Flashback.

For me (and most of the people I see considering this question on the
net) that has to be "more lightweight", not "lighter-weight"...

And is it a matter of "It is used" or "It can be used"?
-- 
JBR with qualifications in linguistics, experience as a Debian
sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package



Bug#895478: gnome-screensaver: package Description should mention that it is not part of GNOME 3

2018-04-11 Thread Simon McVittie
Package: gnome-screensaver
Version: 3.6.1-4
Severity: normal
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-l10n-engl...@lists.debian.org, 
debian-gtk-gn...@lists.debian.org

Like GNOME Panel (#895348), gnome-screensaver is left over from GNOME 2
and is no longer necessary or desirable in a GNOME 3 environment. Unlike
GNOME Panel, gnome-screensaver is no longer maintained upstream (I've
just filed a bug tagged as "upstream wontfix" to document this).

The package's Description doesn't give any hints that it is no longer
part of a "normal" GNOME installation, and I think it should.

Currently, the Description is:

> GNOME screen saver and locker
>
> gnome-screensaver is a screen saver and locker that aims to have simple,
> sane and secure defaults, and be well integrated with the GNOME desktop.
> .
> It is designed to support, among other things:
> .
>  * the ability to lock down configuration settings
>  * translation into other languages
>  * user switching

Here is an attempt at a more current description:

 Screensaver and screen lock formerly used in GNOME

 gnome-screensaver is a simple screen saver and screen lock, used in older
 versions of the GNOME desktop environment.
 .
 It is designed to support, among other things:
 .
  * the ability to lock down configuration settings
  * translation into other languages
  * user switching
 .
 This package is not necessary in the GNOME desktop environment, because
 GNOME Shell contains its own screen lock implementation. It is
 used by lighter-weight desktop environments such as GNOME Flashback.

Rationale:
- mention that it isn't part of GNOME
- mention the replacement
- mention GNOME Flashback
- remove "secure defaults" because I don't think we should advertise
  unmaintained software as being particularly secure
- remove statements about integration with the GNOME desktop because
  the only screensaver that is integrated with the current GNOME desktop
  is tightly integrated as part of GNOME Shell

Opinions?

Regards,
smcv