Bug#606268: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#606268: now ignores interfaces configured by d-i

2010-12-07 Thread Michael Biebl
On 07.12.2010 23:21, Joey Hess wrote: Package: network-manager Version: 0.8.1-6 Severity: serious Tags: d-i On upgrading to this version network manager stopped managing my wireless interface and my laptop's network was taken down. Upgrading from which version? /etc/network/interfaces

Bug#606268: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#606268: now ignores interfaces configured by d-i

2010-12-07 Thread Michael Biebl
On 07.12.2010 23:44, Michael Biebl wrote: Could you please clarify what exactly happened? Was this only temporary immediately after the upgrade? Is the problem reproducible after a upgrade? Reproducible after a reboot, I meant. One approach would be for for

Bug#606268: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#606268: now ignores interfaces configured by d-i

2010-12-07 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Biebl wrote: Upgrading from which version? 0.8.1-4 I also don't understand why you say that the network is taken down. Because it was taken down, when the postinst stopped network-manager, and did not come back up when the postinst started network-manager (because network-manager had

Bug#606268: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#606268: now ignores interfaces configured by d-i

2010-12-07 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Biebl wrote: If you install a new system using d-i and a /e/n/i configuration like your's is created, the interface will be managed by ifupdown and not network-manager. ifup does not bring up interfaces marked as allow-hotplug unless it gets some kind of hotplug event. That does not

Bug#606268: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#606268: now ignores interfaces configured by d-i

2010-12-07 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Biebl wrote: Could you please clarify what exactly happened? Was this only temporary immediately after the upgrade? Is the problem reproducible after a upgrade? Reproducible after a reboot, I meant. Yes. Doing a fully automated conversion would probably not be that easy and I'm

Bug#606268: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#606268: now ignores interfaces configured by d-i

2010-12-07 Thread Michael Biebl
On 08.12.2010 00:45, Joey Hess wrote: Doing a fully automated conversion would probably not be that easy and I'm not convinced it would be a good idea anyways. And we can't simply comment out entries like the above without risking to lose network connection. Unfortunatly I don't see

Bug#606268: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#606268: now ignores interfaces configured by d-i

2010-12-07 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Biebl wrote: First, installing over wireless is certainly not the norm Amazon is currently selling $350 laptops on which Debian can be installed over wireless (ath9k) without even needing non-free firmware. open wireless networks are not that common either. That is highly

Bug#606268: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#606268: now ignores interfaces configured by d-i

2010-12-07 Thread Michael Biebl
On 08.12.2010 01:32, Joey Hess wrote: But even if that is the case, this still stands: a. Would you really want laptops' wireless interfaces to be managed by ifupdown on a system with network-manager, by default? No, but as I already mentioned imho this can only be handled half way sane