Processed: Re: Bug#876191: most: configure cannot be built from source

2017-11-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > severity 876191 minor Bug #876191 [src:most] most: configure cannot be built from source Severity set to 'minor' from 'serious' > retitle 876191 most: configure file cannot be regenerated automatically Bug #876191 [src:most] most: con

Bug#876191: most: configure cannot be built from source

2017-11-28 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
severity 876191 minor retitle 876191 most: configure file cannot be regenerated automatically thanks Greetings! For the reasons discussed on this bug already, I'm retitling this bug and reducing its severity. I know Helmut doesn't agree. If we want to have a bigger conversation about policy on

Bug#876191: most: configure cannot be built from source

2017-11-26 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 12:36:33PM -0800, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > > I agree that a hand-modified binary a binary would not mean that you > > don't need to provide source for that binary. I think there's likely > > going to be consensus on that in Debian. > > That put's you in a difficult spot

Bug#876191: most: configure cannot be built from source

2017-11-25 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 12:36:33PM -0800, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > I agree that a hand-modified binary a binary would not mean that you > don't need to provide source for that binary. I think there's likely > going to be consensus on that in Debian. That put's you in a difficult spot as to where

Bug#876191: most: configure cannot be built from source

2017-11-25 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
Greetings Helmut! Thanks for engaging productively on this! > I deliberately avoided the FTBFS language, because it is not a FTBFS. > It's different. It's like shipping a binary that cannot be regenerated > and using that during build. The term FTBFS is well defined and does not > cover this

Bug#876191: most: configure cannot be built from source

2017-11-24 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 06:22:05PM -0800, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > I'll also say that I'm skeptical about both the severity you've chosen > here (serious), about describing this as a FTBFS issue, and about your > suggestion that this is a DFSG issue. I deliberately avoided the FTBFS language,

Bug#876191: most: configure cannot be built from source

2017-11-24 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
Greetings Helmut! > I was trying to fix a bug in most that requires modifying configure. > Thus I tried to regenerate it and ... failed. I'll start by saying that this is a real bug and that I agree that it should be fixed. And thanks so much for notice and submitting it! And for trying to fix

Bug#876191: most: configure cannot be built from source

2017-09-19 Thread Helmut Grohne
Source: most Version: 5.0.0a-4 Severity: serious User: helm...@debian.org Usertags: rebootstrap I was trying to fix a bug in most that requires modifying configure. Thus I tried to regenerate it and ... failed. It seems that configure was generated with autoconf2.61. The archive does have