Hi again,
I got no answer to my suggestions about improving 1st debian CD and desktop
task :(
Maybe debian-cd maintainer can say if 1st CD would include more packages for
beginners: hardware autodetection packages, user-friendly package managers,
user-friendly configuration tools, etc. and
One comment:
In pre6-pre7-package.diff.txt I see:
-Non-US:pool/non-US/main/e/erlang/erlang_8.0-4_i386.deb
-Non-US:pool/non-US/main/e/erlang-slang/erlang-slang_1.0-3_i386.deb
-Non-US:pool/non-US/main/o/openh323/libopenh323-dbg_1.7.4-6_i386.deb
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 10:08, Santiago Vila wrote:
One comment:
In pre6-pre7-package.diff.txt I see:
-Non-US:pool/non-US/main/e/erlang/erlang_8.0-4_i386.deb
-Non-US:pool/non-US/main/e/erlang-slang/erlang-slang_1.0-3_i386.deb
On 30 May 2002, Philip Hands wrote:
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 10:08, Santiago Vila wrote:
If we accept that a first non-US CD does not necessarily have to
contain the whole of non-US, we could change the way of generating
the CDs from Including most of non-US in CD#1, excluding big packages
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 01:53:17PM +0200, Patrick Strasser wrote:
Richard Atterer wrote:
For other files (packages on the CD that become outdated and
disappear from the main mirror), one possibility is to set up an
md5sum-based fallback directory; for a MD5Sum=http://foo/; entry
in the jigdo
Mantas K. wrote:
I got no answer to my suggestions about improving 1st debian CD and desktop
task :(
Here is one (not official, since I am not the debian-cd maintainer).
The current CDs are made basically using the data produced by the
popularity-contest package. Debian is for everybody, not
Previously Philip Hands wrote:
The good news is that TeX is in, the bad news is that packages such as
xdm, xfs xterm are out. This seems bad, but I suppose since gdm kdm
are on there, and one can survive without xfs, and gnome-terminal is in,
we could actually live without those, but will
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Philip Hands wrote:
The good news is that TeX is in, the bad news is that packages such as
xdm, xfs xterm are out. This seems bad, but I suppose since gdm kdm
are on there, and one can survive without xfs, and gnome-terminal is
Hello,
this is my first attempt at a note to mail to all CD mirror admins.
Doubtlessly it is inaccurate in some places - please correct any
mistakes. Is there any important issue which I missed, and which the
mirror maintainers should know about?
Where will the official 3.0r0 jigdo files be
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Santiago Vila wrote:
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Philip Hands wrote:
The good news is that TeX is in, the bad news is that packages such as
xdm, xfs xterm are out. This seems bad, but I suppose since gdm kdm
are on there, and one
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 10:50, Santiago Vila wrote:
On 30 May 2002, Philip Hands wrote:
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 10:08, Santiago Vila wrote:
If we accept that a first non-US CD does not necessarily have to
contain the whole of non-US, we could change the way of generating
the CDs from
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Richard Atterer wrote:
Another related question: At the moment, jigdo-mirror does not allow
you to filter which images it should create and which not. People
using it will only be able to mirror all 88 images, there's no way to
prevent it from creating e.g. binary-3 to
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 13:16, Richard Atterer wrote:
Where will the official 3.0r0 jigdo files be placed? I think it would
be wise *not* to use cdimage/jigdo-area for that, because
does this work if you point it at:
http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/current/
?
If so, there's no
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Philip Charles wrote:
This package depends on xspecs so it's certainly not for normal users.
We are operating with two sets of constraints.
The task system. x-window-system is part of task basic-desktop, so to
remove it means that this task is incomplete and probably
Perhaps this is a simple typo/mistake and it should be x-window-system-core,
not x-window-system, the single package in the basic-desktop task?
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On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 12:30, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
Previously Philip Hands wrote:
The good news is that TeX is in, the bad news is that packages such as
xdm, xfs xterm are out. This seems bad, but I suppose since gdm kdm
are on there, and one can survive without xfs, and
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone know of any methods where I could customize a
debian cd set with just the packages I want and scaled down so it would
fit on a mini and/or business card/credit card cd. To give you some
idea the size requirments
Full cd = 650 megs
Mini cd = 180 megs
biz card cd
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 01:57:38PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
Hmm, considering that woody has already 8 binary CDs (i.e. 7 US CDs
and 1 non-US one) a 2nd NONUS CD would not be such a big change.
Steve noticed that several of the packages that claim to be non-US are
actually now in main, but
On Thu 30 May, Richard Atterer wrote:
Another related question: At the moment, jigdo-mirror does not allow
you to filter which images it should create and which not.
Should I modify it to allow such filtering?
yes. It's pretty close to being essential I think.
Because we expect that most
Hi,
I had download the CD image of Debian OS. I searched at the
package.debian-cd web site, and downloaded some .deb files. I still could
not find the necessary information of howto burn the CD as bootable disk
with images. Please let me know where I can find such information.
Thanks,
Wu
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Santiago Vila wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Philip Charles wrote:
The release. We were told in no uncertain terms that we were not to mess
with task system.
More than being a part of, x-window-system is the *only* package in
the basic-desktop task.
I think there is
Santiago Vila wrote:
More than being a part of, x-window-system is the *only* package in
the basic-desktop task.
I think there is something fundamentally wrong in this task if it's
called basic and, at the same time, it includes xspecs.
There is also a `desktop' task containing
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Wu, Ying-Wah CECOM RDEC I2WD wrote:
I had download the CD image of Debian OS. I searched at the
package.debian-cd web site, and downloaded some .deb files. I still could
not find the necessary information of howto burn the CD as bootable disk
with images. Please let
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:20:21AM -0400, Ed Street wrote:
I was wondering if anyone know of any methods where I could customize a
debian cd set with just the packages I want and scaled down so it would
fit on a mini and/or business card/credit card cd. To give you some
idea the size
Is this the method people are using the build the minimal netinst type
cd's aswell? It seems like overkill to have a full debian mirror to
build a 50-70 meg image.
-stephen
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Steve Haslam wrote:
SH On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:20:21AM -0400, Ed Street wrote:
SH I was
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 07:19:31PM +0100, Stephen Mulcahy wrote:
Is this the method people are using the build the minimal netinst type
cd's aswell? It seems like overkill to have a full debian mirror to
build a 50-70 meg image.
It's what I'm using, but yes it's overkill. Especially since it
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Joey Hess wrote:
Santiago Vila wrote:
I would like to hear some comments about this from whoever created
this weird basic-desktop task.
Well, take a look at tasksel's changelog:
* Make the basic-desktop task incude all of x-window-system (so it gets a
WM and
Hello,
this is my first message to this list after lurking since long. I have
a partial mirror for woody/binary-i386 based on debmirror and the
actual CVS version of debian-cd. Every so often I build inofficial
woody CDs from my local mirror which I put onto CD-RWs. This works
great except for
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 12:52:47PM -0400, Wu, Ying-Wah CECOM RDEC I2WD wrote:
I had download the CD image of Debian OS. I searched at the
package.debian-cd web site, and downloaded some .deb files. I still
could not find the necessary information of howto burn the CD as
bootable disk with
OK, I'll implement the filtering.
The part about not providing rsyncable CDs 3-7 for non-i386 was the
last word from Phil H. about this, but that was before the decision to
move almost everything to raff. So... will we be offering rsync access
to all 88 images? In that case, a warning to the
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Steve Haslam wrote:
SH On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 07:19:31PM +0100, Stephen Mulcahy wrote:
SH Is this the method people are using the build the minimal netinst type
SH cd's aswell? It seems like overkill to have a full debian mirror to
SH build a 50-70 meg image.
SH
SH
Philip == Philip Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Philip Looking at the sizes of the packages on CD#1_NONUS from pre6
Philip I see that stating with the largest we have (after getting
Philip rid of the kernel images):
Philip 128882447 emacs21_21.2-1_i386.deb
Philip 105322127
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 01:24:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Santiago Vila wrote:
I would like to hear some comments about this from whoever created
this weird basic-desktop task.
Well, take a look at tasksel's changelog:
* Make the basic-desktop task incude all of x-window-system (so
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 01:24:28PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Well, take a look at tasksel's changelog:
* Make the basic-desktop task incude all of x-window-system (so it gets a
WM and xterm and so on), while the desktop task uses just
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 06:57:22PM +, Achim L?bbert wrote:
this is my first message to this list after lurking since long. I have
a partial mirror for woody/binary-i386 based on debmirror and the
actual CVS version of debian-cd. Every so often I build inofficial
woody CDs from my local
Hello,
I'm a fairly experienced Debian i386 user who just got himself an Apple
iBook. I know next to zilch about the Mac, and have had a number of false
starts at installing Debian on the thing.
I have some feedback for The Powers That Be about my installation
experience, and I'm also keeping
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Santiago Vila wrote:
What's wrong with basic-desktop being x-window-system-core plus a WM
plus xterm? As I said, x-window-system contains things which are far
away from being basic. If we force it to be on CD #1, lots of very
popular packages will end up being in CD #2.
The jigdo image at
http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre8/jigdo/source/wwody-src-6.jigdo
has the following section
[Image]
Filename=debian-30p8-source-6.iso
Template=http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre8/jigdo/src/woody-sr
c-6.template ShortInfo='Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 p8 Woody -
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Philip Charles wrote:
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Santiago Vila wrote:
What's wrong with basic-desktop being x-window-system-core plus a WM
plus xterm? As I said, x-window-system contains things which are far
away from being basic. If we force it to be on CD #1, lots of
Philip Charles wrote:
Good luck, let us know how you get on. We need to speed up the transfer
of the iso's from Dunedin to Budapest.
If you have a local debian tree, that should be no problem at all. It
works already when you have just the files that are mirrored in the same
relative
Richard Atterer wrote:
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 01:53:17PM +0200, Patrick Strasser wrote:
In case the size is really a problem, note that you can always refine
the script used to generate the debian-superseded contents. Attila
just puts *all* outdated files there (because his CDs actually
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Santiago Vila wrote:
If we can't fix usability bugs during the freeze, we might better
unfreeze woody for a while, fix the basic-desktop task, and freeze
woody again...
Let's get woody out of the door fast. Tomorrow preferably, if not, the
day after. We can reccommend
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Patrick Strasser wrote:
Cut
To sum up, first we need a list of files that can be found on mirrors
with their corresponding location, what I'm trying to do ATM. And second
the files itself for the checksums, which we get from the mounted image.
I now work with a local
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 16:18, Anthony Towns wrote:
I've already replied to Phil's bug about this, but this doesn't actually
work out: erlang's in non-US in testing and unstable, and won't be
moving for woody. There's a bunch of stuff for which new versions have
been uploaded to main for
On 30 May 2002, Philip Hands wrote:
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 13:16, Richard Atterer wrote:
Where will the official 3.0r0 jigdo files be placed? I think it would
be wise *not* to use cdimage/jigdo-area for that, because
does this work if you point it at:
On Fri, 31 May 2002 09:08:30 +1000
Glenn McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The jigdo image at
http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre8/jigdo/source/wwody-src-6.jigdo
Same problem in 3.0-pre9
Glenn
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