Re: Unofficial Debian SID CDs

2001-03-10 Thread Mattias Wadenstein

On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Attila Nagy wrote:

  I think we would have greater availability if you would do the kind of
  hardlink-trick that the official debian setup uses. That way the rsync
  won't start by deleting the woody isos and then downloading them in
  full to another name. Since we seem to get about 70K/s it will take
  most of today to sync everything.

 I don't really understand you. There was a change in the directory
 structure, but this won't happen again.
 If there will be another update all the filenames will be the same.

Ah, ok. Of they won't change again there is no need.

  We will also run out of space after the sid images have managed to
  sync. (We only had about 4 gig left or so.) We are contacting our disk
  sponsor about this, and hopefully we'll get another nice disk.
 Wow, you have a disk sponsor! I would need one too ;)

The very nice people at southpole (.se) that used to run ftp.se.debian.org
are still involved in providing this service to the public, even if they
aren't running it directly any more.

I wonder a bit if some of the bigger linux supporters (IBM springs to
mind) can't be convinced to donate some disk to these important services.

You might want to try and contact them. The hardest part would probably to
get in touch with the right person(s).

  Ah, the potato images was moved and the symlink doesn't point to a
  place that exists over here, would it be safe in the future to copy
  symlinks as the files/directories they point towards?
 The potato images won't change in the future. If you need them download
 with ftp and exclude them from the rsync process.

Ok, we will do that when we have diskspace for it, I think.

/Mattias Wadenstein


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Re: Unofficial Debian SID CDs

2001-03-10 Thread Attila Nagy

Hello,

 I wonder a bit if some of the bigger linux supporters (IBM springs to
 mind) can't be convinced to donate some disk to these important
 services.
These companies donate stuff only for big sites, not for small ones like
mine (ours?)...

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Re: Unofficial Debian SID CDs

2001-03-10 Thread Mattias Wadenstein

On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, Attila Nagy wrote:

 Hello,

  I wonder a bit if some of the bigger linux supporters (IBM springs to
  mind) can't be convinced to donate some disk to these important
  services.
 These companies donate stuff only for big sites, not for small ones like
 mine (ours?)...

Most of them don't, most of the time. Which is kind of silly, setting up a
disk pool or something, that nice sites like yours (ours?) could ask for
storage from. It would be a fairly low cost operation, and enable more
mirrors/sites to stay around and have more content.

But anyway, keep on asking. Just because you are most likely to get a no,
doesn't mean you will always get a no. But if you never ask, you will
never get anything.

But a smaller, local sponsor would probably be easier to convince, if you
can find them.

/Mattias Wadenstein - with some general rants


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Unofficial Debian SID CDs

2001-03-09 Thread Attila Nagy

Hello,

I started to produce Debian SID install CDs on ftp.fsn.hu and also updated
the woody ones. BTW, due to disk problems I have to stop updating the
potato extra CDs which hold non-free and other user requested software
(but they remain available).

The current sid set stands of 6 CDs. The last one is the non-free CD, so
it is necessary only if you want to install "non-free" software. This is
the case with the woody sets too, so the last CD contains Debian non-free
packages only.

You can access the CDs at the URLs below:

ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/[dist]
http://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/[dist]
rsync://ftp.fsn.hu/cdimages/debian-unofficial/[dist]

The SID filenames and their MD5 checksums are:
(sid-i386-1.raw) = 2c98fef361bc3deff56788613d0414f7
(sid-i386-2.raw) = 2c38faaba68e21936f9c80da6f311c6b
(sid-i386-3.raw) = b1349d08033e01727289d4287abb28a1
(sid-i386-4.raw) = 6fc4cc2a58e41546e57f368fd5840946
(sid-i386-5.raw) = 8beecc700120ca51c05ead689e5b60ab
(sid-i386-6.raw) = 7843317ba1322a32e730badcbfbb31d5

The WOODY filenames and MD5 checksums:
(woody-i386-1.raw) = 999d29e4594fb5fe53820f40b798bc35
(woody-i386-2.raw) = 941a19a7b005e75dfc4b212ebfa570af
(woody-i386-3.raw) = 2bbc2a3a8bcb0fcdca49b162e6ee2190
(woody-i386-4.raw) = 6c70ea68c3459b5cd29bba33414af0bf
(woody-i386-5.raw) = 52148950b270024702b03a00bea0ffb7


I will try to make at least weekly updates, but first I need to get a
large disk to do a local debian mirror to my desktop computer :(

This set is courtesy of Apostol Computer Ltd, they lent me a big IDE disk
:)

ps: these files will be (hopefully) appear soon on the mirrors below:

ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/unoffical [Australia]
ftp://omega.elte.hu/mirror/debian-unofficial [Hungary]
ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-unofficial [Sweden]

Please test these CDs if you can and write me or to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (I use the debian-cd script) in case of
problems.

Thanks,
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Re: Unofficial Debian SID CDs

2001-03-09 Thread Mattias Wadenstein

On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Attila Nagy wrote:

 Hello,

 I started to produce Debian SID install CDs on ftp.fsn.hu and also updated
 the woody ones. BTW, due to disk problems I have to stop updating the
 potato extra CDs which hold non-free and other user requested software
 (but they remain available).

Ah, that is why yesterday's cron job said someting about "opendir(sid):
Permission denied" :)

 The current sid set stands of 6 CDs. The last one is the non-free CD, so
 it is necessary only if you want to install "non-free" software. This is
 the case with the woody sets too, so the last CD contains Debian non-free
 packages only.

 ps: these files will be (hopefully) appear soon on the mirrors below:

 ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/unoffical [Australia]
 ftp://omega.elte.hu/mirror/debian-unofficial [Hungary]
 ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-unofficial [Sweden]

A couple of things regarding that:

I think we would have greater availability if you would do the kind of
hardlink-trick that the official debian setup uses. That way the rsync
won't start by deleting the woody isos and then downloading them in full
to another name. Since we seem to get about 70K/s it will take most of
today to sync everything.

We will also run out of space after the sid images have managed to sync.
(We only had about 4 gig left or so.) We are contacting our disk sponsor
about this, and hopefully we'll get another nice disk.

We might manage to find some temporary storage (borrow a couple of disks),
I'm looking into that right now. Hopefully it will be solved today. This
would mean some small downtime of course, but it shouldn't be more than
15 minutes.

Ah, the potato images was moved and the symlink doesn't point to a place
that exists over here, would it be safe in the future to copy symlinks as
the files/directories they point towards?

Since we are going to run out of space soon, I don't think that a full
mirror of ftp.fsn.hu would be a good idea. ;)

I hope I don't come across as complaining or anything, it is great that
these cd-images exists. I'm just trying to make them more available. :)

/Mattias Wadenstein - ftp.se.debian.org


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Re: Unofficial Debian SID CDs

2001-03-09 Thread Attila Nagy

Hello,

 Ah, that is why yesterday's cron job said someting about
 "opendir(sid): Permission denied" :)
:)

 I think we would have greater availability if you would do the kind of
 hardlink-trick that the official debian setup uses. That way the rsync
 won't start by deleting the woody isos and then downloading them in
 full to another name. Since we seem to get about 70K/s it will take
 most of today to sync everything.
I don't really understand you. There was a change in the directory
structure, but this won't happen again.
If there will be another update all the filenames will be the same.

 We will also run out of space after the sid images have managed to
 sync. (We only had about 4 gig left or so.) We are contacting our disk
 sponsor about this, and hopefully we'll get another nice disk.
Wow, you have a disk sponsor! I would need one too ;)

 Ah, the potato images was moved and the symlink doesn't point to a
 place that exists over here, would it be safe in the future to copy
 symlinks as the files/directories they point towards?
The potato images won't change in the future. If you need them download
with ftp and exclude them from the rsync process.

 Since we are going to run out of space soon, I don't think that a full
 mirror of ftp.fsn.hu would be a good idea. ;)
I've already run out of space :)

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