Re: Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-10-01 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 06:02, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 I've discovered #763580 though, so I might revert this change for now
 since I don't want to reintroduce this bug right now, and generate more
 work for translators because of an errata we could and should have
 avoided, since that problem was warned against already.
 
 We're possibly looking at an upload this wednesday (European) afternoon.

Bringing back the bug from d-i Beta 1 (#712907 auto preseed installs get
stuck) seems like the lesser evil than (re)introducing #763580.
Obviously we can't find a better fix in this short timeframe, but I hope
we can try again for Beta 3.

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Re: Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-30 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 01:00:01AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
  Since the kernel is now a candidate for migration, I'll probably start
  urgenting more packages into testing during the weekend (all l10n-only
  updates, for a start), try to figure out which packages to additionally
  migrate, and freeze udeb-producing packages.
 
 Besides partman-efi (uploaded today to drop armhf), brltty (stuck
 because of llvm/clang issues), and the CJK issue (#762057), I don't
 think I'm going to merge more things, so I've just frozen udebs.

It might be interesting to also unblock netcfg 1.122  if we want to have
a working d-i beta2 on s390x (and maybe on other architectures). The
recent uploads have been built with gcc-4.9 instead of gcc-4.8, which 
triggers a bug that have been hidden for years. I have fixed this bug in
1.122.

Also not fully necessary, but it might be a good idea to let util-linux
to migrate to testing so that we can do testing installations on
ppc64el. There is no code change, just one less file shipped on this
architecture so the diff is quite small.

Thanks,
Aurelien

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Re: Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Aurelien Jarno aurel...@aurel32.net (2014-09-30):
 It might be interesting to also unblock netcfg 1.122  if we want to
 have a working d-i beta2 on s390x (and maybe on other architectures).
 The recent uploads have been built with gcc-4.9 instead of gcc-4.8,
 which triggers a bug that have been hidden for years. I have fixed
 this bug in 1.122.

Ah, alright. I saw the upload but wasn't sure about the possibly broken
use cases.

 Also not fully necessary, but it might be a good idea to let
 util-linux to migrate to testing so that we can do testing
 installations on ppc64el. There is no code change, just one less file
 shipped on this architecture so the diff is quite small.

ACK.

Both urgented and unblock-udeb'd, thanks.

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Re: Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-09-29):
 Besides partman-efi (uploaded today to drop armhf)

decruft happened a few minutes ago, unblock-udeb in place.

 brltty (stuck because of llvm/clang issues)

llvm/clang got either fixed or worked around, and brltty built. It
reached testing in the meanwhile.

 and the CJK issue (#762057)

I've managed to fix the obvious regression I spotted while updating the
ttf-cjk-compact package (#763576), and testing full installation in C/J
was OK, K looked good. unblock-udeb/urgent in place.

 I don't think I'm going to merge more things, so I've just frozen
 udebs.

I've discovered #763580 though, so I might revert this change for now
since I don't want to reintroduce this bug right now, and generate more
work for translators because of an errata we could and should have
avoided, since that problem was warned against already.

We're possibly looking at an upload this wednesday (European) afternoon.

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Re: Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-28 Thread Ian Campbell
On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 21:05 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-09-10):
  as you might have seen, a number of uploads happened lately and the d-i
  BoF notes from DebConf kindly provided by Steve (thanks!) reminded me
  about uploading d-i more often. So I think I'll try and achieve that as
  soon as linux 3.16 reaches testing (it was just uploaded to unstable,
  and FTBFSes on several architectures, so not this week ;)).
 
 linux/linux-latest are now ready, baring nvidida (#762977).
 
  Some things got set into motion, like syslinux menu overhaul (mainly
  discussion around the switch to graphical by default, didn't see any
  patch yet) or tasksel changes (alternative desktops, blends support).
  I'm unsure they're going to be ready at that point, so I guess it would
  make sense not to wait for them and publish another release in the
  meanwhile. I'll probably gather opinions when linux is ready, this mail
  is mainly meant to be a heads-up.
 
 I'll probably skip syslinux vs. multi-arch this time, mostly due to lack
 of time and other large ongoing changes: let's see if we can get
 debian-cd to cope with latest tasksel changes soon.

Should we do anything about #762007 (user-params breakage due to kernel
changes) or can it wait?

WRT #762618 (empty grub.cfg in x86 mini.iso, used on EFI systems only) I
didn't push that patch because of the pending beta (and it touches x86
which I didn't want to mess with unannounced).

Ian.


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Re: Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-28 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk (2014-09-28):
 Should we do anything about #762007 (user-params breakage due to
 kernel changes) or can it wait?

I might be mistaken but I think it can wait a bit until we agree on a
solution and have some time to get it tested.

 WRT #762618 (empty grub.cfg in x86 mini.iso, used on EFI systems only)
 I didn't push that patch because of the pending beta (and it touches
 x86 which I didn't want to mess with unannounced).

Same story. Filed as a normal bug so I'm tempted to let it wait until
after Beta 2.

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Re: Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-28 Thread Ian Campbell
On Sun, 2014-09-28 at 15:47 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk (2014-09-28):
  Should we do anything about #762007 (user-params breakage due to
  kernel changes) or can it wait?
 
 I might be mistaken but I think it can wait a bit until we agree on a
 solution and have some time to get it tested.

Ack.

  WRT #762618 (empty grub.cfg in x86 mini.iso, used on EFI systems only)
  I didn't push that patch because of the pending beta (and it touches
  x86 which I didn't want to mess with unannounced).
 
 Same story. Filed as a normal bug so I'm tempted to let it wait until
 after Beta 2.

Filed as normal because I didn't know if it was minor or important (or
worse) ;-) I suspect it's more on the minor end of things, so Ack.

Ian.


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Re: Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-28 Thread Cyril Brulebois
[ debian-release@: see last paragraph. ]

Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-09-26):
 Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-09-10):
  as you might have seen, a number of uploads happened lately and the
  d-i BoF notes from DebConf kindly provided by Steve (thanks!)
  reminded me about uploading d-i more often. So I think I'll try and
  achieve that as soon as linux 3.16 reaches testing (it was just
  uploaded to unstable, and FTBFSes on several architectures, so not
  this week ;)).
 
 linux/linux-latest are now ready, baring nvidida (#762977).

It migrated in the meanwhile.

  Some things got set into motion, like syslinux menu overhaul (mainly
  discussion around the switch to graphical by default, didn't see any
  patch yet) or tasksel changes (alternative desktops, blends support).
  I'm unsure they're going to be ready at that point, so I guess it would
  make sense not to wait for them and publish another release in the
  meanwhile. I'll probably gather opinions when linux is ready, this mail
  is mainly meant to be a heads-up.
 
 I'll probably skip syslinux vs. multi-arch this time, mostly due to
 lack of time and other large ongoing changes: let's see if we can get
 debian-cd to cope with latest tasksel changes soon.

Steve managed to fix debian-cd in a few minutes/hours, so that shouldn't
be a blocker. Latest tasksel reached testing, too. I've also removed
desktop preseeding as pointed out by Joey some minutes ago.

  → I'd like to know whether some bugs need special attention/fixes
(besides what's in unstable already).
  
  I haven't looked at recent bugs lately but I think we might be missing
  at least a ttf-cjk-compact-udeb upload (which might explain some issues
  reported against debian-edu IIRC), and I failed to upload choose-mirror
  for the past release (Aurelien uploaded it 10 days ago though, to get
  updated arch lists).
 
 Since the kernel is now a candidate for migration, I'll probably start
 urgenting more packages into testing during the weekend (all l10n-only
 updates, for a start), try to figure out which packages to additionally
 migrate, and freeze udeb-producing packages.

Besides partman-efi (uploaded today to drop armhf), brltty (stuck
because of llvm/clang issues), and the CJK issue (#762057), I don't
think I'm going to merge more things, so I've just frozen udebs.

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Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-26 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2014-09-10):
 as you might have seen, a number of uploads happened lately and the d-i
 BoF notes from DebConf kindly provided by Steve (thanks!) reminded me
 about uploading d-i more often. So I think I'll try and achieve that as
 soon as linux 3.16 reaches testing (it was just uploaded to unstable,
 and FTBFSes on several architectures, so not this week ;)).

linux/linux-latest are now ready, baring nvidida (#762977).

 Some things got set into motion, like syslinux menu overhaul (mainly
 discussion around the switch to graphical by default, didn't see any
 patch yet) or tasksel changes (alternative desktops, blends support).
 I'm unsure they're going to be ready at that point, so I guess it would
 make sense not to wait for them and publish another release in the
 meanwhile. I'll probably gather opinions when linux is ready, this mail
 is mainly meant to be a heads-up.

I'll probably skip syslinux vs. multi-arch this time, mostly due to lack
of time and other large ongoing changes: let's see if we can get
debian-cd to cope with latest tasksel changes soon.

 → I'd like to know whether some bugs need special attention/fixes
   (besides what's in unstable already).
 
 I haven't looked at recent bugs lately but I think we might be missing
 at least a ttf-cjk-compact-udeb upload (which might explain some issues
 reported against debian-edu IIRC), and I failed to upload choose-mirror
 for the past release (Aurelien uploaded it 10 days ago though, to get
 updated arch lists).

Since the kernel is now a candidate for migration, I'll probably start
urgenting more packages into testing during the weekend (all l10n-only
updates, for a start), try to figure out which packages to additionally
migrate, and freeze udeb-producing packages.

Mraw,
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Re: (Almost) Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:18:14AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

[ And -cd@ so that the team knows a release is planned “soon”, in case
some patches are in the works. ]

ACK. I still want to get some stuff done on the EFI front, but my
stack is a bajillion deep at the moment... :-(

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(Almost) Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-09 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi people,

as you might have seen, a number of uploads happened lately and the d-i
BoF notes from DebConf kindly provided by Steve (thanks!) reminded me
about uploading d-i more often. So I think I'll try and achieve that as
soon as linux 3.16 reaches testing (it was just uploaded to unstable,
and FTBFSes on several architectures, so not this week ;)).

Some things got set into motion, like syslinux menu overhaul (mainly
discussion around the switch to graphical by default, didn't see any
patch yet) or tasksel changes (alternative desktops, blends support).
I'm unsure they're going to be ready at that point, so I guess it would
make sense not to wait for them and publish another release in the
meanwhile. I'll probably gather opinions when linux is ready, this mail
is mainly meant to be a heads-up.

→ I'd like to know whether some bugs need special attention/fixes
  (besides what's in unstable already).

I haven't looked at recent bugs lately but I think we might be missing
at least a ttf-cjk-compact-udeb upload (which might explain some issues
reported against debian-edu IIRC), and I failed to upload choose-mirror
for the past release (Aurelien uploaded it 10 days ago though, to get
updated arch lists).

If you have possibly disruptive patches/updates pending, it would be
nice to either communicate on the topic, or delay these until after the
release. (Of course, if you're able to introduce them, and fix any
issues before linux is ready, I'm fine with it.)

[ I'm adding -bsd@ to the loop explicitly since there was quite some
work lately (thanks to Steven who stepped up and quickly sent a fair
number of patches), and I'd rather avoid forgetting/not knowing about
some extra patches. ]

[ And -cd@ so that the team knows a release is planned “soon”, in case
some patches are in the works. ]

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Re: (Almost) Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-09 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Hi,

On 09/09/14 23:18, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 as you might have seen, a number of uploads happened lately and the d-i
 BoF notes from DebConf kindly provided by Steve (thanks!) reminded me
 about uploading d-i more often.

Sounds good;  it feels like a good time for a new release.  (Perhaps
biased;  I'm keen for the kfreebsd d-i Beta 1 images to go away so that
people are only testing new ones. that work.)

 So I think I'll try and achieve that as
 soon as linux 3.16 reaches testing (it was just uploaded to unstable,
 and FTBFSes on several architectures, so not this week ;)).

We'd be ready for kfreebsd 10.1 to go into unstable, but won't do this
unless there's an ACK/NAK from release team in #760114, and also working
around the schedule of any upcoming d-i release.

If this did go ahead, only the version and ABI number need updating in
debian-installer;  I've been doing all of my d-i testing with kfreebsd
10.1 udebs and I think it is absolutely ready.  (Preferred, in fact,
because it fixes known issues like #755739).

 If you have possibly disruptive patches/updates pending, it would be
 nice to either communicate on the topic, or delay these until after the
 release. (Of course, if you're able to introduce them, and fix any
 issues before linux is ready, I'm fine with it.)

I'd like to revert some of the problematic ZFS-on-Linux changes from
partman-zfs (a kfreebsd-specific udeb), to restore the original
behaviour we had in wheezy.  I'll try to get this done in plenty of time
for Beta 2.

 [ I'm adding -bsd@ to the loop explicitly since there was quite some
 work lately (thanks to Steven who stepped up and quickly sent a fair
 number of patches), and I'd rather avoid forgetting/not knowing about
 some extra patches. ]

Thanks :)  All patches for the kfreebsd d-i Beta 2 errata got uploaded.
 There is only the #757986 inappropriate ioctl for device prompt, that
we could try to fix before Beta 2 *if* there is time after the above.

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Re: (Almost) Time for Jessie Beta 2?

2014-09-09 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org):
 Hi people,
 
 as you might have seen, a number of uploads happened lately and the d-i
 BoF notes from DebConf kindly provided by Steve (thanks!) reminded me
 about uploading d-i more often. So I think I'll try and achieve that as
 soon as linux 3.16 reaches testing (it was just uploaded to unstable,
 and FTBFSes on several architectures, so not this week ;)).


I'm still in the upload fast, upload often mood. We nearly have no
pending changes in git (I still need to see today's check, though).

There are many pending l10n-only uploads to do, mostly because Joe
Hansen did a lot of QA on the Danish translation, which triggered
changes to many packages (and also because the chek I'm using was
broken since late July and fixed only recently. They are low priority,
though, and should not delay a release. I just want to mention them so
that you're not surprised by many uploads happening.




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