Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-30 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Aug 30 2015, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote: Nikolaus == Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: Nikolaus On Aug 29 2015, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote: Option D goes further. Option D requires that packages drop their traditional menu entries if they ship

Bug#741573: Proposed draft of ballot to resolve menu/desktop question

2015-08-30 Thread Josh Triplett
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 20:00:55 -0700 Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 09:13:33AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: If we adopt Keith's proposal without updating policy 9.6--we retainIs the SHOULD have menu entries for all command line apps, but move the metadata format

Bug#741573: Proposed draft of ballot to resolve menu/desktop question

2015-08-30 Thread Sam Hartman
Steve == Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: Steve On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 09:13:33AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: If we adopt Keith's proposal without updating policy 9.6--we retainIs the SHOULD have menu entries for all command line apps, but move the metadata format to

Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-30 Thread Sam Hartman
Nikolaus == Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: Nikolaus On Aug 29 2015, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote: Option D goes further. Option D requires that packages drop their traditional menu entries if they ship .desktop files. (That's done on a per-application not

Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-30 Thread Sam Hartman
Nikolaus == Nikolaus Rath nikol...@rath.org writes: Nikolaus A. This comes very close to design work which the CTTE Nikolaus should not be doing. If there's a conflict between two Nikolaus crappy designs and the CTTE is asked to rule, then you Nikolaus should pick the less crappy

Bug#741573: Proposed draft of ballot to resolve menu/desktop question

2015-08-30 Thread Keith Packard
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: 741573_menu_systems/keithp_draft.txt includes further guidance regarding the technical details of how to map between the menu system and .desktop files. Since this is not on the ballot itself, how do we intend to surface this so that it can be useful

Re: Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-30 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Aug 30 2015, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote: if you actually want the TC to only choose with no comment from the options before it; if you want us not to raise objections and actually set policy as we are charged with in the constitution, There is an (important) difference between

Bug#741573: Proposed draft of ballot to resolve menu/desktop question

2015-08-30 Thread Keith Packard
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Thanks. I would appreciate if it would be acknowledged, I am a bit academic by training... The proposed ballot tries to clarify the difference between D and AB by noting: 6. The policy change by Charles Plessy in ba679bff76[1] would comply

Re: Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 08:39:19PM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: On Aug 30 2015, Sam Hartman hartm...@debian.org wrote: if you actually want the TC to only choose with no comment from the options before it; if you want us not to raise objections and actually set policy as we are charged with