]. I don't personally think
this was because of malice or conspiracy -- it's far more likely to be some
kind of technical misunderstanding or a design issue than anything else.
[1]: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/303
[2]: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/484
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, but this will be
expanded to lilo and other bootloaders in the future.
This is working for me so far. Doesn't yet work for upstart or openrc, but
supporting them is in the TODO list.
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system in jessie+1 sounds a bit scary, as it will change a basic
administration interface in the middle of a Stable support period
of
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having a choice -- any of the three choices -- may be more important than
having the best choice -- especially since what's best is exactly where
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[2]:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#network-manager-conflicts
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2: https://www.ohloh.net/p/upstart/factoids#FactoidCommentsAverage
3: https://www.ohloh.net/p/systemd/factoids#FactoidCommentsLow
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On Monday, October 28, 2013 00:11:07 Ian Jackson wrote:
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Chris Knadle writes (Bug#727804: (Re: Screen Blank Does Not Recover)):
[something]
In any case, if you _do_ think that such a bug report might lead to an
improvement in theh software, please be sure not to send messages like
Patches to the release-notes document to discuss the symptoms and workaround
for the conflict between NM and wicd-daemon are available in #704211.
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When this was brought up in the bug report, the response was
network-manager can be installed, then disabled, but how to do that
wasn't documented anywhere in the network-manager package
/releases/testing/amd64/install.txt.en
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complete the removal of libcelt. Since then bug
#691535 was found (missing dependency on libGL) and another NMU upload has
been made to Sid, which AFAIK will also migrate to Wheezy as well.
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Chris Knadle writes (Thanks to the tech-ctte re: mumble):
I'd like to say thanks to all the tech-ctte members taking part in
the effort of discussing #675971 within #682010 and coming to a
resolution.
Thanks for pushing through
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quilt patches
in the current package
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--- mumble-1.2.3-349-g315b5f5/debian/changelog 2012-07-08 13:42
, VoIP and messaging:
http://penta.debconf.org/dc12_schedule/events/933.en.html
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On Friday, August 24, 2012 12:16:01, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Bug#682010: Call for votes on CELT in Mumble):
On Friday, August 24, 2012 11:03:31, Ian Jackson wrote:
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14. Consequently, the mumble source package should be configured to
use an embedded
that are only in the upstream directory or vice-versa.
So would you mind giving me a pointer for how to verify the tarball?
Thanks.
[1] http://mumble.info/snapshot/
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the standard instructions, after which X wouldn't start; Mumble was tested
via ssh X forwarding without audio
[7] 348-1.1 = 1.2.3-348-g317f5a0 with proposed patches
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looks interesting. I've been too busy with Mumble testing to look at it
closely, though.
[1] http://opus-codec.org/
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On Monday, July 23, 2012 13:26:57, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:34:28, Ian Jackson wrote:
Of these 2. would seem to be the best option.
I agree.
[...]
I believe in order to actually evaluate any of these solutions
On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 03:40:52, Nicos Gollan wrote:
Hi,
On Wednesday 25 July 2012 03:50:23 Chris Knadle wrote:
The way you've described this, /if/ the trick with Speex does work, and
the Debian version of Mumble ships without CELT, it would mean that if
any Debian user shows up
], then we have a different problem,
because it's going to take time for Opus support to make its way into the
various distribution releases and it's not as easy to say just upgrade for
that case.
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certain still.
At least in terms of what's in the 349 -2 in Sid and the celt 0.7.1 library
in Wheezy, it looks to me like the code is exactly the same.
$ diff -r -u celt-0.7.1/libcelt mumble/celt-0.7.0-src/libcelt
Only in celt-0.7.1/libcelt: Makefile.in
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, then the audio quality of Speex vs Celt and the latency
each has matters to an extent.
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Philipp Kern writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to
CELT codec library removal):
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 06:31:27PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
1) Fix up 348 from Wheezy so it compiles and uses the CELT
On Monday, July 23, 2012 13:09:05, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to
CELT codec library removal):
On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:34:28, Ian Jackson wrote:
Philipp Kern writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures
due
On Monday, July 23, 2012 04:52:29, Nicos Gollan wrote:
Hi,
On Monday 23 July 2012 00:31:27 Chris Knadle wrote:
This means that the Opus-only client ruins the audio connection for
everybody else that's connected, at least in this case.
That happens because the maintainer patch 20-add
On Monday, July 23, 2012 13:26:57, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:34:28, Ian Jackson wrote:
Of these 2. would seem to be the best option.
I agree.
[...]
I believe in order to actually evaluate any of these solutions
On Monday, July 23, 2012 15:25:17, Ron wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 06:09:05PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due
to CELT codec library removal):
On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:34:28, Ian Jackson wrote:
Philipp Kern writes
On Monday, July 23, 2012 15:43:11, Ron wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 02:38:19PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Monday, July 23, 2012 13:16:55, Ron wrote:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 03:38:44PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
[…]
Maybe that is true for the gamers, but when I asked I didn't get
On Sunday, July 22, 2012 04:35:00, Ron wrote:
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 03:46:34PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
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[Special thanks goes to Nicos for watching our backs here.]
Just to be clear here, because at some point Ian described Nicos as being
a mumble developer, and you have now declared
/bugreport.cgi?bug=674634#10
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On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the
TC):
On Thursday, July 19, 2012 19:07:52, Ron wrote:
...
What we'd like to do in the meantime, is let the mumble version from
unstable transition
On Friday, July 20, 2012 08:32:01, Ron wrote:
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:14:48AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2012 07:54:21, Ian Jackson wrote:
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How will this interact with mumble in other distros, who are
presumably following mumble upstream's advice to use celt
On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:20:28, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the
TC):
Test:
Thanks.
This:
- I had the friend upgrade to the developer snapshot
1.2.3-361-ga2a3836
from the Mumble website and try again
On Friday, July 20, 2012 10:21:17, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Re: Bug#682010: re celt and mumble referred to the
TC):
On Friday, July 20, 2012 01:47:21, Chris Knadle wrote:
[…]
From this test I draw the following conclusions:
[…]
- Once -2 of the Mumble client
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On Thursday, July 19, 2012 05:56:26, Neil McGovern wrote:
Hi,
I'll try and work out a view on the rest of this soon-ish (Ian: do you
have a target response date?), but on one very specific point:
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:45:13PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
I'm wondering if multi-arch
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We're prepared to accept any possible outcome the TC deems appropriate.
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 19:15:01, Ian Jackson wrote:
Chris Knadle writes (Bug#682010: [mumble] Communication failures due to
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This refers to Bug #675971 (which is severity grave, and currently
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