Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-12-04 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Dear members of CTTE, thank you very much for you decision. Now I can start with the maintaining of LILO. Have a nice day, Joachim (Germany) signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-30 Thread Andreas Barth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Don Armstrong (d...@debian.org) [101129 12:06]: [for reference: A. lilo should be removed. In the meantime, William is to be sole maintainer of lilo. His promised request to the ftp team to remove lilo should be honoured, after

Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-30 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:20:55PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Ian Jackson writes (Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO): No, I don't think so. There's nothing more to be said. [for reference: A. lilo should be removed. In the meantime, William is to be sole

Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Kurt Roeckx writes (Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO): I'd like to point out that neither of your votes are signed. This is true. But there is no requirement for TC members' votes to be signed. If there were any doubt about whether my vote was a forgery I would get

Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-30 Thread Andreas Barth
* Ian Jackson (ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk) [101130 19:31]: Kurt Roeckx writes (Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO): I'd like to point out that neither of your votes are signed. This is true. But there is no requirement for TC members' votes to be signed

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Don Armstrong wrote: Is there any objection to starting the voting process on this issue with the options presented in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587886#55 ? [for reference: A. lilo should be removed. In the meantime, William is to be sole

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Joachim Wiedorn writes: Finally it would be nice we could move the new Debian packages into Debian unstable ... I agree that Joachim and Matt Arnold should be made the joint lilo

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Don Armstrong writes (Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO): Is there any objection to starting the voting process on this issue with the options presented in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587886#55 ? No, I don't think so. There's nothing more

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Don Armstrong d...@debian.org writes: Is there any objection to starting the voting process on this issue with the options presented in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587886#55 ? Sounds fine to me. [for reference: A. lilo should be removed. In the meantime, William is

Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I vote: 1 B 2 A 3 SQ manoj -- The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible. Albert Einstein : Understanding the world Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/ 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Joachim Wiedorn writes (Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO): Finally it would be nice we could move the new Debian packages into Debian unstable ... I agree that Joachim and Matt Arnold should be made the joint lilo maintainers. Would other TC members please express

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-11-22 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote on 2010-11-22 11:27: Joachim Wiedorn writes (Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO): Finally it would be nice we could move the new Debian packages into Debian unstable ... I agree that Joachim and Matt Arnold should

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-10-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010, Ian Jackson wrote: I think it's clear from William's response that joint maintainership involving both William on one hand, and one or both of Matt and Joachim on the other hand, is not tenable. I think this leaves the Technical Committee with two options: A. lilo

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-08-09 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 21:55:50 -0400 (EDT), Joachim Wiedorn wrote: in the last weeks nothing going on with the package Lilo. Now there is a new RC bug and Squeeze is already frozen. So I have decided to orphan this package and give other people the chance to overtake the maintaining of lilo to

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-08-08 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Hello, in the last weeks nothing going on with the package Lilo. Now there is a new RC bug and Squeeze is already frozen. So I have decided to orphan this package and give other people the chance to overtake the maintaining of lilo to bring it in a good shape before Squeeze will be stable:

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-12 Thread Stephen Powell
For what it's worth: As promised in my previous post, I tried lilo 23.0 on my old Pentium II machine, which is an IBM ThinkPad 600. It works perfectly for me. I do not experience the triple-fault continuous reboot loop that William claims to experience on his Pentium II machine. -- .''`.

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-11 Thread Stephen Powell
Gentlemen, I just subscribed to this bug log as an interested party. Allow me to put in my two cents worth, if I may. (1) On behalf of Debian's lilo users, of which I am one, please do not remove lilo from the distribution. I used lilo for many years. When the default boot loader changed to

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-10 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, - Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: Joachim Wiedorn writes (Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO): because of the discussions of the last weeks mostly on debian-devel I have sent this bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-10 Thread Ian Jackson
William, thanks for replying with your position and stating it very clearly. It's very helpful for us to know exactly what you think. William Pitcock writes (Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO): [Ian Jackson:] I've caught up on all of this now. I'm not sure I quite

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-10 Thread Ian Jackson
William Pitcock writes (Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO): Hi, If you still think that there is some really hard to fix image size limitation with lilo, could you please provide a more specific reference. For the most part, it is worked around by using large

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-10 Thread Matt Arnold
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2010 07:40 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: Earlier you said this: Making a 23.0 release with nothing other than *broken* patches does not give [lilo a future] Ie, you implied that that was what Joachim has done. However, now you agree

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes (Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO): I've caught up on all of this now. I'm not sure I quite understand the position of the current lilo maintainers. In http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/05/msg00769.html William writes: it has

Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-06 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Joachim Wiedorn ad_deb...@joonet.de wrote on 2010-07-05 17:46: If nobody want to do maintaining the lilo package I could do it and I would do it. My proposal: From my side I believe I could work together with Matt Arnold. I see the following cases: A) Matt Arnold as Maintainer, myself as

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-06 Thread Matt Arnold
On 07/06/2010 05:48 PM, Joachim Wiedorn wrote: Joachim Wiedorn ad_deb...@joonet.de wrote on 2010-07-05 17:46: If nobody want to do maintaining the lilo package I could do it and I would do it. My proposal: From my side I believe I could work together with Matt Arnold. I see the

Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-05 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote on 2010-07-05 15:23: I've caught up on all of this now. I'm not sure I quite understand the position of the current lilo maintainers. In http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/05/msg00769.html William writes: it has pretty much

Re: Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-05 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote on 2010-07-05 15:23: Do we have another person who wants to maintain lilo in Debian ? If nobody want to do maintaining the lilo package I could do it and I would do it. I think that if we do, and the current maintainers want to remove it, we

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-02 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Package: tech-ctte Severity: normal Hello, Since six weeks I see a very problematic situation of LILO maintaining and I don't know how this problem could be solved. Since the initial mail from William Pitcock, the LILO maintainer (2010-05-22):

Bug#587886: future of maintaining of the bootloader LILO

2010-07-02 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Hello, because of the discussions of the last weeks mostly on debian-devel I have sent this bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587886 to the Technical Committee of Debian to find a solution. I invite you to write a summary of your position and send it to this bug